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Need help deciding on a Allmnt/touring ski.

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50Kal
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So I am looking for a new Allmnt/tour ski. I'm 5'9'' 165lbs skiing in Colorado pretty much all the time. Shorter tours so don't need super light weight ski. Looking for a versatile ski (underfoot less than 110) directional that has easier maneuverability.
2 skis in my mind are BD 13/14 Verdict or ON3P 15/16 Wrenegade 102. If anyone who has rode either of these skis please let me know what you thought. They are very similar in dimensions and weight.
BD verdict 180: 132 / 100 / 119 9.8 lbs
ON3P Wrenegade 181: 134/102/122 9.2 lbs

As much as I love ON3P there is a pair of BD verdicts super cheap online right now that are still in the wrappers, so I am leaning a little bit towards the verdicts.
Planning on mounting some marker F12 or barons if I can get some cheap enough.
Any other ski recommendations with similar dimensions would be appreciated. Really looking to keep price under $500 so I can spend more on bindings. If I can save enough might even be able to get dynafit bindings & boots.
Thanks for any help or suggestions.
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sammy_JJ
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Not exactly what you asked. If you are going with the barons then I would say spend the extra and get the dukes because they are the same weight as the barons but go up to 16.
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iggyskier
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Obviously I am biased, but if you think there is a chance a 176cm would work for you, we have some 14/15 176cm Wren 102 on sale right now for around $420 shipped.

Size wise, our 176cm is going to be just a touch shorter than a 180cm BD, so something to take into account. Our 181cm will be around 3cm longer than the 180cm BD.

At your size, I would say the 181cm would probably be the best fit, but in CO with lighter snow and more hardpack compared to say, the PNW, I don't see too many times where you would lose out on the slightly shorter size.

It is still a stout ski in a 176cm, but a bit easier to throw around in trees and in bumps, plus a bit lighter and easier to kick turn, so depending on where you ski, it could be advantageous. If you are skiing primarily open terrain - say Loveland Pass, Snowmass, Vail back bowls, then I would say you are probably good on the longer size. But if you are in the trees a lot, ski any areas that get a lot of bumps, and want a bit less weight for touring, 176cm might be the way to go.

For what it is worth, just for some ski perspective, my everyday, one-pair do it all ski for the PNW would be a 186cm JF 114. If I was back home in CO (I grew up in Boulder and skied the front range since I was 3) I would rock a 181cm Kartel 106. So, just some perspective on how I feel about ski sizing.

If you do end up picking a pair up, and decide they are too short, let me know and we'll get you taken care of. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks!
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