So These Fast Food Crusaders Might Actually Get Their $15 An Hour?

theabortionator

S.J.WAs someone who has worked in McDonalds, it's so easy. But it's the fucking worst thing ever.I wouldn't wish my worst enemy to work at McDonalds for 8 bucks an hour.

californiagrownif you are honestly jealous of $15/hr then maybe your chosen life of "love over money" isntt working out so well.

theabortionatorNot agreeing with something = jealousy. Mmmkay. Great logic.

californiagrownI literally said "if you are jealous". Not sure how you got "disagree" from that.

theabortionatorI just wanted to argue. I have seen a lot of "Well I make this and it's not fair" type posts on the facebook though

theabortionatorIt's not meant to be a life long job that's the problem. You're not supposed to buy your dream home while working at mcdonalds or washing dishes. These are entry level jobs. Great for high schoolers. Great first jobs. Or people who need some loot and are in between jobs.

A better thing would be more jobs, and this isn't going to help that, especially for entry level positions.

theabortionatorIt's not meant to be a life long job that's the problem. You're not supposed to buy your dream home while working at mcdonalds or washing dishes. These are entry level jobs. Great for high schoolers. Great first jobs. Or people who need some loot and are in between jobs.

A better thing would be more jobs, and this isn't going to help that, especially for entry level positions.

S.J.WThere's 4.8 million unfilled skilled jobs out there. There's no shortage of jobs if someone wants to train themselves.

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DlCKMore incentive to work, more skilled laborers, more productivity, more economic activity. You will see an initial decline overall at first as companies adjust to the new payroll demands but eventually there will be a huge amount of spending. The cost of commodities wont rise because more people will be purchasing them. The cost of housing wont become unaffordable because there will be more first time home owners. Well paid, happy workers are efficient and spend regularly. Underpaid, pissed off workers dont spend at all.

There is no shortage of supply in any market, only a lack of demand due to everyone being so damn poor.

AT-ATI made $12 an hour to pour foundations when I was in college, and I stoked to be making that kind of money. What has happened to the world when people building houses will be making less than those who produce shitty food.

I am a strong believer that you get paid what you are worth, and to anyone saying its hard to find a job hahahahaha. Its hard to find a job where you paid to do nothing, but if your looking for a job in which you actually have to work there are a shit ton of them. Almost every business I know is constantly looking for a better employee and would hire one on the spot. The problem is everyone just wants to sit on their asses and complain and have the government come to their rescue, instead of going out sweating, and earning an honest living.

All minimum wage does is handcuff the employer. If you're not happy with what you are making go change it and remember you shook someones hand and agreed to get paid what you are. You made a business deal, you had a choice. Stop blaming other people for your own problems.

AT-ATI made $12 an hour to pour foundations when I was in college, and I stoked to be making that kind of money. What has happened to the world when people building houses will be making less than those who produce shitty food.


All minimum wage does is handcuff the employer. If you're not happy with what you are making go change it and remember you shook someones hand and agreed to get paid what you are. You made a business deal, you had a choice. Stop blaming other people for your own problems.

AT-ATIf you're not happy with what you are making go change it

nocturnalIt's been decades since hourly pay is been adjusted, maybe you should also be making more money for pouring foundation. Ever think of that everyone wins.

AT-ATThe man I was working for also deserved to go home and be able to feed his kids and pay his mortgage.

ndyeYeah cause im sure the majority share holders and CEO's of McDonalds are going to be STRUGGLING to put food on the table now.

AT-ATI didn't deserve more. I made what I should have. The man I was working for also deserved to go home and be able to feed his kids and pay his mortgage.

AT-AT80% of mcdonalds worldwide are privately owned.

ndyeYes I understand that, as part of the franchise agreement, I can also look up total profits for these franchises.

2013 so a little old but: http://www.ask.com/business-finance/mcdonald-s-franchise-s-profit-8f7327118fa3c180

If there is an issue and all these restaurants start struggling, Mcdonalds may have to decrease their royalty fee to avoid having franchises go under.

But I suppose in the end what I am saying is, McDonalds will be fine, and so will the franchise owners.

nocturnalMcDonalds is actually getting killed by places like Chipotle, smash burger, and toco bell breakfast, I think they had their first flat quarter like 5 months ago.

ndyeThere are so many people in this thread who dont understand economics and are just regurgitating talking points.

People want $15 an hour so they DONT have to be leaches, so they dont have to collect government assistance, so they can do better for themselves.

I dont think making it so the fast food worker can afford their rent, food, and healthcare, means that everyone working in the greasy hot fast food kitchens will want to work there till they are 62... If you believe that, you are wrong.

Finding a job is hard, affording college is hard, affording insurance is hard.

We opened a job up for an accounts payable clerk at my place of work. Starting pay $11 an hour, college degree required. We received over 70 applications from qualified applicants. You probably could have opened that job up for 9, or 8 bucks an hour and filled the position with a qualified applicant.

The job is worth more, but there is a surplus of workers compared to open positions, there ALWAYS IS... This means that its no longer basic supply and demand economics, and there needs to be a bottom line to make sure these people can afford to sustain themselves. Otherwise they end up using benefits from the middle class. The middle class should want to raise the minimum wage more than anything else, the only people who shouldnt want to are the actual top earners in society.

You are in fact misinformed if you think otherwise.

There is a lot of good information out there,

1)go find statistics, not fox news articles,

2) look who does the statistics, make sure they wouldnt have a massive bias in one way or another.

3) Realize what I am saying is right

4) ?????????

5) profit

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cool_nameYour example literally is basic supply and demand, the supply is greater than demand so the price is going down. I don't see how this isn't supply and demand

theabortionatorI'm from new york. I'm not saying that invalidates what you're saying. Just that I'm not forgetting the cost of living here. Also like anywhere it else it varies greatly. NYC is not new york state. Honestly living in the state of new york away from NYC is actually pretty damn affordable.

first_rodeoi grew up in upstate and moved to long island after college...
NYS is expensive regardless of where you live.

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ndyeYou do understand that if we slashed the minimum wage we would increase hiring right? Lets destroy the minimum wage! Think about how many companies could hire more employees.

A full time job in the wealthiest country the world has ever seen should mean that you are capable of supporting yourself and putting a roof over your head.

Jobs that do not get people out of poverty accomplish almost nothing.

A spending middle class drives the economy, its middle out. Not top down. We need a stronger spending middle class to increase spending and increase the number of jobs in the country.

Raising the minimum wage will not only not eliminate all jobs, it will create a stronger, better middle class.

cool_nameThat job will give them experience allowing them to prove and gain the skill necessary to demand a higher wage.

cool_nameI actually support removing, or at least greatly reducing minimum wage for this reason, it will create more jobs.

Yes, some people will get hired and make shit all, but that is better than the alternative where they have no job and instead of making shit are just not making anything. In both cases the person is going to have a tough time supporting themselves, in the case where they have a job though that is only temporary.

That job will give them experience allowing them to prove and gain the skill necessary to demand a higher wage.

ndyePower to you if thats what you think, just know that with this scenario, many more people would rely on government assistance. The vast majority would not ever move up, and the cycle of poverty would continue rolling onward and onward. Relying on the government wouldnt be the last option, it would be the norm, and thats dangerous as could be.

S.J.WThat's a compete lie. McDonalds and other fast food chains already operate on the lowest possible labour per output to maintain customer satisification. They can't cut down their employees otherwise they'll pretty much fuck up the restaraunt.

.MASSHOLE.You are looking at one small group in a singular industry, you need to look beyond that. What about the small fast food joints that are trying to compete with McDonalds and the other large chains? What about local bike stores, ski shops, general stores, etc. that will also have to increase their wages that they pay to their workers?

People will be losing jobs because of this increase in wages, it is a given and absolutely idiotic to think otherwise. The question that people should be asking is how many? Is it an acceptable amount? Is there better rate at which the losses can be reduced while increasing the wages?

.MASSHOLE.You are looking at one small group in a singular industry, you need to look beyond that. What about the small fast food joints that are trying to compete with McDonalds and the other large chains? What about local bike stores, ski shops, general stores, etc. that will also have to increase their wages that they pay to their workers?

People will be losing jobs because of this increase in wages, it is a given and absolutely idiotic to think otherwise. The question that people should be asking is how many? Is it an acceptable amount? Is there better rate at which the losses can be reduced while increasing the wages?

S.J.WWhat people that work at ski shops, bike shops, etc,etc are trying to support their family? Personally I think with this wage increase that a family trying to put food on their table is more important than little joey waxing skis so he can afford alcohol and new skis.

mirozDo you think there should be a distinction between the minimum wage that a full time employee is eligible to receive versus the minimum wage that a part time employee is eligible to receive? Why or why not?

CaptainObvious.Dub post, but $15/hr is just at or more than the starting salary for a TEACHER in half of the states in the US.


.....where you're required to have a college degree.


Just gonna throw that out there.

And fuck you with your summers off bullshit because, once again, that's the salary WITH A DEGREE. Four years of school past high school and thousands of dollars to make the same as a fry cook and get three months off. Fuck you very much, but maybe this is why our education quality in the US is shit.