So These Fast Food Crusaders Might Actually Get Their $15 An Hour?

DingoSeanbecause we NEED low income earners to make things work.. and they need to be able to afford to live close enough to public transport that they rely on to get to those jobs that make everything work..

Granite_StateThen who would work at the McDonalds in the city?

SkiBum.Unfortunately he will not have the following to become president, but I would not say his chances are all that bad. He has a solid following and a lot of people like his stance, including myself.

The idea of a very successful business man in charge is a good thing. I think this should happen.

a_pla5tic_bagGuess the only thing I can say to this is they want the low income earners to be less low but who knows what that will do... Shits complicated, I'm gonna stick to my algae and cancer.

SkiBum.Unfortunately he will not have the following to become president, but I would not say his chances are all that bad. He has a solid following and a lot of people like his stance, including myself.

The idea of a very successful business man in charge is a good thing. I think this should happen.

Huck_NorrisOh Rusty. So angry. So entitled. Wouldn't you just love to crush those stupid, lazy piece of shit low level workers into dirt just like they obviously deserve? You're so much better than they are, how dare they want a living wage! Lol

I think $15 may be a bit high but we have GOT to have the minimum wage indexed to inflation (and by comparison all other wages need to be higher) or we will just have more and more full time workers living below the poverty line. All that does is require the fucking govt to subsidize the remainder of that shit wage with things like Sec. 8, food stamps etc... If we simply make companies pay a living wage (which they CAN afford or they shouldn't be in business) our system can stop footing the rest of the bill plain and simple. Failing to do so creates a massive strain on the system that is NOT necessary in any way. Not one bit. Fucking Walmart made $127 BILLION in gross profits in 2014... You're fucking telling me they can't afford to pay a living wage?? Your arguments are based COMPLETELY in what you think they deserve, not any kind of fiscal reasoning behind it whatsoever- at least not in reality anyways.

The assumptions you've put out there are stereotypes and pretty fucking pathetic ones at that. Why don't you just talk about someone on food stamps buying lobster or rims or some other stupid shit while you're at it? Project a little harder why don't you?! You are the most well known druggie on this whole site and that's a fucking accomplishment- but don't act like you know what the fuck you're talking about when it comes to fiscal policy dude- no fucking way. If I want that good Molly, trust me- I'll call you. Pipe the fuck down until then bro. Know your fucking role.


See dude? Sucks when people assume shit about you that is fucked and callous doesn't it? You could be cast as an undeserving piece of shit just as easily as Mr. Drive-Thru, but that's not fucking cool and it isn't about what some rando thinks you deserve. Everybody deserves to be fairly compensated for a 40 hour work week and ESPECIALLY when you work for a tax-dodging international conglomerate that banks on slave labor and never ever plans on offering more than the bare minimum required by law and even profits by pigeonholing their workers in the subsidy cycle.

See the angle I'm coming from dude? Someone earning 7.50/hr only makes around $16k/year BEFORE TAXES. That's 'fuck you' money and it doesn't add up. At all. It's costing this country as a whole a shitload of money when yes- the companies paying min wage can ABSOLUTELY afford it. If you're going to try to debate that point you better bring some actual factual info to the table to back it up or your butthole gonna get aired the fuck out.

JudMaster415$ an hour is fucking ridiculous. High school drop outs would be making more then the people fighting for our countrys freedom.

theabortionatorI love when people tell me I'm angry.

It's not like I work minimum wage jobs ever or anything. But yeah I'm just some rich kid on his high horse.

Oh here we go again, Mcdonalds and Walmart leading the discussion.

Why should these companies be singled out to subsidize their employees living situation. Now we're talking about, these people have money, therefore they should give it to those people. Mmmmkay.

3:Wow, you really reached for the stars in this paragraph. I'm just going to go ahead and ignore that.

4:Here we go again. Down with the evil corporations right?

5: calls me angry then drops legitimate anger bombs on the webs.

Not even going to bother to respond to most of this. As far as the minimum wage though. When you get your $15 across the board, what do you do in 15 20 years when that's not enough, with the same fight? Raise the minimum wage more? Because you sure haven't fixed anything. Inflation will keep going up and we'll ignore that, and we'll keep bitching about corporations murdering the country etc.

It's funny that someone who spends far too much time doing drugs to know anything about economics did pretty well because of a recession the "experts" were saying wouldn't happen.

Our economy is pretty beat, but this goes far beyond the general "errmahgerrd the corporations bro" that seems to be the most popular thing.

SkiBum.Unfortunately he will not have the following to become president, but I would not say his chances are all that bad. He has a solid following and a lot of people like his stance, including myself.

The idea of a very successful business man in charge is a good thing. I think this should happen.

LonelyWoah woah woah wait a second, very succesful? He's gone bankrupt how many times? 3?4?

DingoSeanOf course, but New York, like California, as a whole, is still expensive outside of NYC, LA, and SF.

Bumfuck nowhere CA is expensive compared to a state thats almost entirely bumfuck nowhere. haha.

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onenerdykidDo you honestly think that employers pay their employees based on what value they bring to the table? In a book that makes perfect sense, for the sake of argument I will grant that some honest businesses achieve this. But don't think for a second that the majority of business out there don't pay their employees based on the minimum of what they can get away with.

Of course all employees think they deserve to get paid more, sure. But, you would be lying to yourself if you thought that businesses aren't trying to make the most money they can. As such, they will reduce payroll expense as much as they can without losing their employees. That is the balance they are trying to make.

theabortionatorhttp://www.wsj.com/articles/n-y-panel-is-set-to-propose-15-fast-food-wage-1437352435

So much hate. I love how there are people doing skilled labor making less than that.

Also I bet a bunch of the people campaigning because they can't live on minimum wage have iphones and data plans, and waste money on useless stuff. I can agree our economy is in the shitter, but come on.

If you don't think 8.75 is enough money, find another job or work your way up. People quit fast food jobs all the time. If you aren't useless and hang around for a while you'll move up. I'm not saying you're going straight to the top, but you can definitely work your way up. You might not get rich but you can make a little more $$$.

nosnowsnakesSure. I would be a little jealous of someone making more money to flip burgers than what I make after getting a college degree - but on the flip side if fast food corporations paid these people a livable wage they will have the time and money to invest in their families and give a leg up to a future generation who will have the opportunity to go to college and "bring more skills to the table"

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HamFaceGirlMcdanks is installing kiosks in place of cashiers, and I can bet you every place is gonna have way less workers

DlCKWtf are you talking about? I think you are arguing just to argue. The national average is $977 not $700 Even if they are paying $350 a month ,which is extremely low, the numbers dont add up, at all.

Good luck backing up your statement.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/states-where-minimum-wage-covers-the-rent/

DlCKA kiosk cant deliver food or cook it or buy it or stock it or organize it or throw it away when its bad. Its replacing one worker. Some high end restaurants have their cooks take the orders.

It may be a fast food place and flipping burgers may not take much intelligence but what % of Americans eat out every day? Id say the food industry workers are underappreciated quite a bit and they hold the majority of minimum wage jobs. Anyone who says flippin burgers is easy has never stood in front of a hot grill for 8-12 hrs a day 5-7 days a week.

californiagrownGo to Japan and tell me a kiosk can't do all of that haha. McDonald's could easily automate their kitchen, it would just require a large initial investment.

DlCKA kiosk cant deliver food or cook it or buy it or stock it or organize it or throw it away when its bad. Its replacing one worker. Some high end restaurants have their cooks take the orders.

It may be a fast food place and flipping burgers may not take much intelligence but what % of Americans eat out every day? Id say the food industry workers are underappreciated quite a bit and they hold the majority of minimum wage jobs. Anyone who says flippin burgers is easy has never stood in front of a hot grill for 8-12 hrs a day 5-7 days a week.

DingoSeanIf fast food is too expensive, people are going to rely on premade food more often - such as 711 sandwiches or something..

DlCKWhich will add to the amount of $$$ wasted treating preventable health related diseases.

HAS ANYONE SEEN THE NEW "LAST WEEK TONIGHT" ABOUT FOOD WASTE?

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VinnieFIf you want to eat healthy and do it cheaply your only real option is to grow/raise your own.

DlCKYou are about to get a roundhouse kick to the face.
Minimum wage is $7.2

Huck_NorrisYour apparent jealousy to this "handout" ignores that it's playing into a bigger system. Of course out economy sucks- we hit a huge recession and everybody came out on the other side making less money, having less benefits and in a climate where everything cost more. We've got about 300 million people whose expendable income is dwindling and it's no wonder our consumer based economy is faltering. How can you possibly think that the minimum wage shouldn't at least be tied to inflation? I want to know what other options there are- aside from blaming inflation alone and acting like this will fix itself. Please. I'm listening.

Huck_NorrisAlso I even said I think $15 is high- but keep in mind that someone who makes $12/hr brings home about $18k after taxes. That's about the bare minimum you can expect someone to live on and even that will be really tough to do.


The real question is what benefit to this system is to be had by keeping such a large portion of the workforce so far below the poverty line? I'd love to know. Every single city and district that has raised their minimum wage is flourishing and it's not a fluke. It's simple economics and you don't have to be a genius to figure it out or even just look at the mathematical evidence provided by those places who are living this conversation.

DeebieSkeebieswhy just fast food? I understand completely why we should pay them more, don't get me wrong. But it seems like almost every fucking job here pays like ass, unless you are born into wealth or something like that and have your golden road already paved for you that's littered with opportunities.

Id say Im all for fast food workers getting paid more, but what about everyone else forced to work shitty, underpaying jobs?

MLJUmm, you realise the "poverty line" is a buck sixty a day right? So noone in America getting payed legally that is employed should be below the poverty line. What is your evidence for raising the minimum wage being good? Please, go ahead and cite several examples that are not circumstantial, I would love to learn more.

OregonDeadUm, people that don't already have power have to organize to be able to leverage a decent wage. If people can get away with it they won't pay you anything.