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LOOKING TO IMPROVE BIG THIS SEASON

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michael.knapp.10
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So lately I've been trying to work on park . I had a knee operation so i missed out this season a lot but i came back at the end and started doing some park (jumps, boxes ) kind of rails . Ive always been more into mountain like 70% mtn 30% park but now I'm trying to step up my park game a lot this season about 50 and 50 . Is there anything i could start out with in park i like air more so I'm trying to get better at that . Or any tips you could pass on to a beginner to intermediate into park.
Jul 15 2015 1:21PM
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.HERO
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Lip on blind truuu
Jul 15 2015 1:23PM
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Mr.Bishop
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As silly as it can sound really work the basics. Getting a proper takeoff with a super good pop can do wonders. Work both your front and left slides and spins.

Every big building needs a really solid foundation.


And, summer camp.
Jul 15 2015 1:39PM
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michael.knapp.10
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Mr.BishopAs silly as it can sound really work the basics. Getting a proper takeoff with a super good pop can do wonders. Work both your front and left slides and spins.

Every big building needs a really solid foundation.


And, summer camp.


i was thinking about going to momentum next season or windells but windells dosent look all that hot
Jul 15 2015 1:57PM
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ndye
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Mr.BishopAnd, summer camp.


That will help, like a lot, but isnt in the cards for most people. What I would recommend, more than anything, is getting in some tramp time, no tramp? Jump off some stuff into water? Dont have that? Just get super strong.

The more physically fit you are and the more time you spend in the air, the better you will get. Just remember, have fun before everything else.
Jul 15 2015 1:59PM
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Mr.Bishop
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michael.knapp.10i was thinking about going to momentum next season or windells but windells dosent look all that hot


All the camps are pretty sweet, kind of depends what you want. Momentum has really high levels of coaching, but you're not very free to do what you want. COC and Windells have good coaching, but you're a lot more on your own program if you want to be.

If you're going to do a camp next year, make sure to keep your eyes out for when we announce the various Newschoolers week camp sessions. Come shred with us!
Jul 15 2015 2:44PM
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Swandog7
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Like Bishop said. Go to the basics. Timing of pops is super important. If you pop to early and catch or slow your roation. This also goes for rails. If you poop to early, you can't get on as high rails when urban on, and it can throw you off to a side
Jul 15 2015 4:45PM
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.HERO
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Swandog7If you poop to early, you can't get on as high rails when urban on, and it can throw you off to a side


Don't poop to early haha
Jul 15 2015 5:29PM
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Swandog7
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.HERODon't poop to early haha


Fuck I've done that in probably 3 threads now
Jul 15 2015 5:31PM
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.HERO
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Swandog7Fuck I've done that in probably 3 threads now


Haha its all good...gave me a laugh!
Jul 15 2015 6:28PM
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S.J.W
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I know this my seem try hardish??? But hit a gym and build some muscle. Not to the point where you're like super buff bodybuilder. But just enough so you have a solid base. Also do yoga if they offer classes and flexability training. Train your legs heaps and your core heaps. Yeah training legs suck but once you have those thick muscular legs you'll be able to drive your ski and your ski won't feel so heavy. Also cardio is a must. And eat healthy, none of this shit that will just get you tired. Eat protein, carbs and fats and avoid sugars. You'll see not only a drastic increase in your skiing ability but just in life. You'll be hapier, healither and ripped so the birds will love you. Or dudes if you swing that way.
Jul 15 2015 6:35PM
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michael.knapp.10
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S.J.WI know this my seem try hardish??? But hit a gym and build some muscle. Not to the point where you're like super buff bodybuilder. But just enough so you have a solid base. Also do yoga if they offer classes and flexability training. Train your legs heaps and your core heaps. Yeah training legs suck but once you have those thick muscular legs you'll be able to drive your ski and your ski won't feel so heavy. Also cardio is a must. And eat healthy, none of this shit that will just get you tired. Eat protein, carbs and fats and avoid sugars. You'll see not only a drastic increase in your skiing ability but just in life. You'll be hapier, healither and ripped so the birds will love you. Or dudes if you swing that way.



well i run a lot and other cardio and already lift weights eat protein and healthy so id say I'm on the right track I'm proably gonnna jump off a bridge in to a pond not to far away and trampoline parks so Id say I'm good just trying to be as best as i can for this season because last season i missed 3/4 of it because of my injury but this season I'm going hard AF
Jul 15 2015 8:05PM
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perryhunter
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I don't think you still need our help though. I know you're doing a big improvement now based on your statements. So good luck on that!
Jul 16 2015 12:14AM
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Ian_Fitz
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michael.knapp.10So lately I've been trying to work on park . I had a knee operation so i missed out this season a lot but i came back at the end and started doing some park (jumps, boxes ) kind of rails . Ive always been more into mountain like 70% mtn 30% park but now I'm trying to step up my park game a lot this season about 50 and 50 . Is there anything i could start out with in park i like air more so I'm trying to get better at that . Or any tips you could pass on to a beginner to intermediate into park.


Couple tips.....Tramp! It helps air awareness and keeps you in shape also try building a summer/winter backyard setup and put some time into it the better the backyard setup the more tricks you can learn...make a box and a rail! Those are the only things you can do for now... this season introduce your self and make friends with people at your ski hill its crazy how one conversation can lead to years of ridding together. Try finding a group of people around your skill level I learned the most this last season cus I was with a great group of people. We went from not being able to do rails to 270s on and off of many rails in the park. I feel you about the knee injury I just brook my neck and ill be out for a while but im gonna be positive and ski as soon as I can. Ask for help from friends when trying something hard for you. To progress alot you need to go hard in the park and try hard along with try new stuff but you need to know your limits!
Jul 16 2015 3:53AM
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PK93
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Judging by the title I THOUGHT OP WAS T-HALL!!
Jul 16 2015 7:28AM
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david-alex
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As Ebola said riding with a group of people helps a lot. You'll get pumped up and there's always a sort of competition inbetween friends so when someone lands a new trick you'll want to land it too. But if you are alone like myself for instance when I'm working at the mountain as a ski teacher and don't have any classes I go hike a feature that I want to parctice on. I learned 270 on and switch 270 on too like that and some cool combos. Also go at your rythim... I mean if your friend does a flatspin and you can barely do 540 I'd suggest you to hit some tramp before hurting yourself. Tramp is probably the best way to learn how to get better with jumps since it's pretty much the same thing with the only difference being the weight of your skis and maybe the takeoff but you'll get used to it. Try to get a seasonal pass for a trampoline station close to you for the summer and maybe you'll be lucky and meet some cool dudes there that can show you some tricks. I learned double corks and double flat 900 from a guy that was working there hahaha. So yeah just get in shape do some tramps get pumped up and kill it!
Jul 16 2015 7:53AM
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Saga.
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The way I see park (or any really) progression going is there are two paths. You can
A. Start from the bottom and go through every step. Learn to spin every direction starting at 180 and moving on as you become confident with each on various features, learn to slide different styles and difficulty of rails all ways and then build into all the switch ups.

B. Find the tricks and moves that appeal to you and you really enjoy. Master those and set specific goals, work towards them.

Process A can take longer to get to a higher level of riding but will assure that there are no holes in your riding as well as make you a much more well rounded skier. This will also allow you to take your park tricks to non park spaces. Process B. will have a more instantly gratifying feeling. You will be able to do some of the more difficult moves but you will be limited in the long run.
Jul 16 2015 10:41AM
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Hoodliving
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Saga.The way I see park (or any really) progression going is there are two paths. You can
A. Start from the bottom and go through every step. Learn to spin every direction starting at 180 and moving on as you become confident with each on various features, learn to slide different styles and difficulty of rails all ways and then build into all the switch ups.

B. Find the tricks and moves that appeal to you and you really enjoy. Master those and set specific goals, work towards them.

Process A can take longer to get to a higher level of riding but will assure that there are no holes in your riding as well as make you a much more well rounded skier. This will also allow you to take your park tricks to non park spaces. Process B. will have a more instantly gratifying feeling. You will be able to do some of the more difficult moves but you will be limited in the long run.


So true, this was my first year of park as well and I had learned a ton of the basics then started to neglect my right ski slides and right spins. Now I still can hit rails right foot but it looks ugly compared to my left. Learning things both ways is crucial! I mean hell I cant spin right to save my life. I can almost blind 4 right foot forward but can't even blind 2 left foot forward. Saga nailed it
Jul 16 2015 1:06PM
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250r
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eat really healthy, walk up lots of mountains, do yoga, do cross fit, jump on trampolines, build a summer setup, get a slack line, get a skateboard, take up downhill mountain biking or motocross, spend your summers in chile shredding pow or just be lame like me and ski on little glaciers.
Jul 16 2015 3:37PM
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Saga.
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mantoastSo true, this was my first year of park as well and I had learned a ton of the basics then started to neglect my right ski slides and right spins. Now I still can hit rails right foot but it looks ugly compared to my left. Learning things both ways is crucial! I mean hell I cant spin right to save my life. I can almost blind 4 right foot forward but can't even blind 2 left foot forward. Saga nailed it


There used to be this unwritten code in snowboarding that was the baseline for being a solid snowboarder. It was you should learn and know how to do the 4 horseman. All four 720s. frontside, backside, cab and switch backside. I feel like this is a thing that should come back and be implemented in skiing.

Now with the insane level of tricks people are doing its very easy to skip steps and go for the hammers too soon leaving holes in your riding.
Jul 17 2015 12:40PM
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broto
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i have been doing yoga for a couple weeks now and i can already tell it is going to help me sooo much when ski season rolls around. it's like a one stop shop to help your balance, leg strength, core strength, focus, and flexibility. you could easily see how each of those things would drastically improve your skiing. seriously, it seems kinda weird at first, but i look forward to doing it now, even if it's a really intense workout
Jul 17 2015 1:08PM
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Gr0mo
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Ski switch a lot, it really helps you understand how your skis work. Its like playing soccer and practicing dribbling and shooting with both feet. Makes you an all around better player.
Jul 17 2015 4:33PM
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Nikolaus
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im in the exact same situation.
Jul 17 2015 5:56PM
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californiagrown
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brotoi have been doing yoga for a couple weeks now and i can already tell it is going to help me sooo much when ski season rolls around. it's like a one stop shop to help your balance, leg strength, core strength, focus, and flexibility. you could easily see how each of those things would drastically improve your skiing. seriously, it seems kinda weird at first, but i look forward to doing it now, even if it's a really intense workout


You rely on yoga to build leg strength, youll be in trouble, but it is one helluva good addition to any proper training program.

improve your balance, proprioception, muscle endurance, flexibility, and recovery all in one stop!
Jul 17 2015 10:29PM
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casey_cope
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Try new tricks. Like you can be the strongest man in the world, tramp everyday over summer, and go to the best camps in the world but if you don't try new tricks you won't progress. And then when you decide to send something and it just doesn't feel like you did the trick correctly or you completely ate shit, have a friend film you doing the trick so you can either ask newschoolers what wrong with your trick or better yet… ask yourself and analyze what you're doing wrong and then improve it.

In other words: Try new tricks, then master those tricks
Jul 20 2015 12:59PM
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Literature
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I think you should figure out what is the most fun for you, and work towards furthering that.
Jul 20 2015 1:01PM
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T-Van
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Like some already said, tramp and summersetup are key.

What I am going through right now is relearning my jump game on the tramp spining rightside...

Just don't make the same fault as me and practice both ways , it will help you a ton
Jul 21 2015 3:38AM
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