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Supreme Court Rules Gay Marriage Legal in All 50 States

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J.D.
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This is a huge day for the United States.

President Obama ‏@POTUS3m3 minutes ago
Today is a big step in our march toward equality. Gay and lesbian couples now have the right to marry, just like anyone else. #LoveWins
Jun 26 2015 10:22AM
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Seeeeemji
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The ruling itself doesn't really affect me, and I pretty much have a 'meh' attitude towards it.

But, how about we stop giving ANY credit to this hypocrite. He spent YEARS campaigning against gay marriage. Trying to take credit for something you openly fought against really makes my blood boil.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/774323/Barack-Obama-on-Gay-Marriage
Jun 26 2015 3:55PM
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ndye
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SeeeeemjiThe ruling itself doesn't really affect me, and I pretty much have a 'meh' attitude towards it.

But, how about we stop giving ANY credit to this hypocrite. He spent YEARS campaigning against gay marriage. Trying to take credit for something you openly fought against really makes my blood boil.


This is true, he did flop on this issue when he realized what the mainstream was.
Jun 26 2015 4:10PM
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cobra_commander
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Another win for divorce lawyers across the country
Jun 26 2015 4:11PM
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theabortionator
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Yeah. Kind of tired of seeing ell these posts congratulating Obama. Take his dick out of your mouth, set your pom poms down, grab a beer and celebrate.
Jun 26 2015 4:17PM
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louie.mirags
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ndyeThis is true, he did flop on this issue when he realized what the mainstream was.


He is a smart man. He knows the mainstream opinion. He was just pandering and playing the game of politics.
Jun 26 2015 4:44PM
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Mingg
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SeeeeemjiThe ruling itself doesn't really affect me, and I pretty much have a 'meh' attitude towards it.

But, how about we stop giving ANY credit to this hypocrite. He spent YEARS campaigning against gay marriage. Trying to take credit for something you openly fought against really makes my blood boil.
https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/774323/Barack-Obama-on-Gay-Marriage


louie.miragsHe is a smart man. He knows the mainstream opinion. He was just pandering and playing the game of politics.


Well, at least he actually listened to what the people wanted, even if he was against it at one point. I think thats actually pretty important to be honest...
Jun 26 2015 4:51PM
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Chubz.
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Cool beans
Jun 26 2015 5:23PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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L_Blol

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/26/presidential-candidates-weigh-in-on-supreme-court-same-sex-marriage-ruling/


cringing so hard

every republican conveniently forgets separation of church and state
Jun 26 2015 5:34PM
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Corey_O132
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So on Instagram companies like CocaCola and Starbucks have celebration posts (which is great in my opinion). So my enjoyment for about an hour or so today was watching people cuss out everyone who made a homophobic comment about the post or the legal ruling. It was pretty entertaining.
Jun 26 2015 5:44PM
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jblaski
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ski.the.eastcringing so hard

every republican conveniently forgets separation of church and state


Please, explain to all of Newschoolers what exactly you think "separation of church and state" is, and where in the constitution it says that.
Jun 26 2015 6:03PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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jblaskiPlease, explain to all of Newschoolers what exactly you think "separation of church and state" is, and where in the constitution it says that.


personally I think imaginary things should be kept out of government, and the fact that some politicians expect that "the almighty creator" has weight in their arguments is funny but pretty damn scary at the same time. The video posted above of Rick Perry is a perfect example

and no, the exact words "separation of church and state" do not appear in the constitution, but the first amendment strongly implies it
Jun 26 2015 7:03PM
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PacificRimJob
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I'm going to the SF Pride Parade on Sunday. It's about to be an absolutely FUCKING INSANE scene.
Jun 26 2015 7:11PM
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theabortionator
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DingoSeanI'm going to the SF Pride Parade on Sunday. It's about to be an absolutely FUCKING INSANE scene.


For sure. That's going to be a fucking party.
Jun 26 2015 7:14PM
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PacificRimJob
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J.D.If you actually read the judgment there are some fairly hilarious bits in there. This is from Roberts's dissent:

"the Court invalidates the marriage laws of more than half the States and orders the transformation of a social institution that has formed the basis of human society for millennia, for the Kalahari Bushmen and the Han Chinese, the Carthaginians and the Aztecs. Just who do we think we are?"

YEAH, YOU TELL 'EM JOHN! How dare we, the United States Supreme Court, question the wisdom and unfailing moral compass of the Aztecs? Holy Quetzalcoatl has decreed that marriage shall be between a man and a woman, and if it's good enough for the feathered serpent it's good enough for me!

Now, the virgins are almost here, where's my sacrificial dagger... knew I left it around here somewhere...


Lmao. How do we have a jackass who uses this sort of logic in charge of jack dick squat?

ALL HAIL MONTEZUMA. WE NEED MORALITY.





Jun 26 2015 7:19PM
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S.J.W
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Frenchy, just because your dog doesn't say no, doesn't mean it's saying yes. A dog can't give consent, therefore you are raping your dog. I know you would love to marry your dog and this step in the way of love and equality may have you thinking you can marry your dog soon enough, but like I said a dog can't give consent.


Jun 26 2015 7:28PM
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PacificRimJob
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theabortionatorYeah. Kind of tired of seeing ell these posts congratulating Obama. Take his dick out of your mouth, set your pom poms down, grab a beer and celebrate.


I don't know man... I don't see many posts congratulating Obama at all.

...Either way, eh. This isn't about Obama's legacy. Politicians gonna pander, but this is a positive ruling that directly involves the people of this country who have been fucked over since antiquity. That's what matters.
Jun 26 2015 7:31PM
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theabortionator
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DingoSeanI don't know man... I don't see many posts congratulating Obama at all.

...Either way, eh. This isn't about Obama's legacy. Politicians gonna pander, but this is a positive ruling that directly involves the people of this country who have been fucked over since antiquity. That's what matters.


My news feed has been FULL of them. Like ridiculous shit. About how this has been the most successful presidency ever or in a century, and history will look back on Obama as being the best thing since sliced bread.

Congratulating wouldn't even be the right word. People are fully boarded on the hype train and attributing anything good in the world to him. The sun came up today thanks to Obama.

I should post some of the stuff because as much as I'm being a bit ridiculous, it really isn't that much of a stretch from what I've been seeing.

But I agree the thing that matters is that we finally got some social progress. Would be fucking epic if at some point people were truly seen as equal regardless of their skin color, sexual orientation, etc.

It's 2015, about fucking time.

Honestly curious what my parents are going to jump on for ridiculous issues to fight/spend their money on.
Jun 26 2015 7:46PM
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OregonDead
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DingoSeanI don't know man... I don't see many posts congratulating Obama at all.

...Either way, eh. This isn't about Obama's legacy. Politicians gonna pander, but this is a positive ruling that directly involves the people of this country who have been fucked over since antiquity. That's what matters.


Yeah, we can't give Obama the credit. He's just another figurehead for the man that is keeping us all down. We have to keep up the fight too because the man is still trying to pin us down in so many ways.
Jun 26 2015 7:52PM
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PacificRimJob
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I will say this much, that it would be pretty difficult to see this happen under a Republican president... Obama absolutely contributed to this by putting Kagan and Sotomayor in their posts rather than whoever McCain, Palin, or Mitt Romney would have installed.

So by that account, good job America for voting for Obama. Haha.
Jun 26 2015 8:11PM
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Bombogenesis
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DingoSeanLmao. How do we have a jackass who uses this sort of logic in charge of jack dick squat?

ALL HAIL MONTEZUMA. WE NEED MORALITY.









LMAO

happy for my gay friends. This is a big step for them.
Jun 26 2015 9:32PM
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NinetyFour
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/774354/Key--amp--Peele---Gay-Marriage-Legalized

I've also been dying of laughter from the Onion's take on things:

http://www.theonion.com/article/nation-on-edge-as-court-votes-whether-to-legalize--38513
Jun 26 2015 10:11PM
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las.
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jblaskiPlease, explain to all of Newschoolers what exactly you think "separation of church and state" is, and where in the constitution it says that.


It's not explicitly stated. Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptists, though, which included the crucial phrase "wall of separation between church and state", is essentially the basis of the Establishment Clause in your First Amendment. So it does imply it, somewhat
Jun 26 2015 10:12PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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What I don't get is that marriage must be legal in order for it to be legitimized in this so called free country of ours. The whole idea that we need the government's stamp of approval in order to say if were married to someone is crazy! That's why I find it funny that everyone's treating this Supreme Court decision like it's some freedom parade. You do all realize that you're celebrating our government changing the legality of something that they should have no business governing in the first place. I true victory for individual liberties would be one where the government has no say on the matter of marriage.
Jun 26 2015 10:17PM
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S.J.W
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WoldsWorldWhat I don't get is that marriage must be legal in order for it to be legitimized in this so called free country of ours. The whole idea that we need the government's stamp of approval in order to say if were married to someone is crazy! That's why I find it funny that everyone's treating this Supreme Court decision like it's some freedom parade. You do all realize that you're celebrating our government changing the legality of something that they should have no business governing in the first place. I true victory for individual liberties would be one where the government has no say on the matter of marriage.


marriage is more than just throwing a fancy wedding and putting on a pretty dress. Marriage gives you certain rights which unmarried couples don't have. Like automatically being next of kin if your partner dies and no one can dispute that, as if you're not married then a family member can take you to court for money if your partner dies. There's alot of other legal mumbo jumbo that getting married allows you to do, and gays even if they wanted to get married couldn't so they didn't have that protection under the law.

I know that paragraph was poorly written but it's late and not thinking straight.
Jun 26 2015 10:22PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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Sorry for the dub post, I had some typos in my last response So since I have ocd with correcting my writinwriting. So here's the edited post.

What I don't get is why is it that marriage must be legal in order for it to be legitimized in this so called free country of ours? The whole idea that we need the government's stamp of approval in order to say if were married to someone is crazy! That's why I find it funny how everyone's treating this Supreme Court decision like it's some big freedom parade. You people do all realize that you're celebrating our government changing the legality of something that they should have no business governing in the first place, right? A true victory for individual liberties would be one where the government has no say on the matter of marriage.
Jun 26 2015 10:25PM
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theabortionator
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WoldsWorldWhat I don't get is that marriage must be legal in order for it to be legitimized in this so called free country of ours. The whole idea that we need the government's stamp of approval in order to say if were married to someone is crazy! That's why I find it funny that everyone's treating this Supreme Court decision like it's some freedom parade. You do all realize that you're celebrating our government changing the legality of something that they should have no business governing in the first place. I true victory for individual liberties would be one where the government has no say on the matter of marriage.


Um, you can get unnoficially married to a bookshelf but if you want to have the legal aspects such ad taxes, health etc it needs to be recognized. Do you not grasp this? Also this didnt change in this ruling
Jun 26 2015 10:48PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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I understand that marriage is much more than just a wedding. I feel like the only reason it's like that though is because it's a product of our environment.
Jun 26 2015 11:08PM
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Scaredwhiteboy
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This is a huge step backwards for the United States. The Tenth Amendment explicitly grants all powers to the states that are not in the Constitution. Marriage is not in the Constitution. Forcing marriage law on the states is patently unconstitutional. Today the justices made their decision not based on the rule of law, but based on their own personal preferences. All five justices who voted for the majority should be ashamed of themselves.

Oh and how about the fact that five unelected officials of the judicial branch just created law in the United States. Can't have an oligarchy with those pesky checks and balances getting in the way!
Jun 26 2015 11:51PM
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S.J.W
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ScaredwhiteboyThis is a huge step backwards for the United States. The Tenth Amendment explicitly grants all powers to the states that are not in the Constitution. Marriage is not in the Constitution. Forcing marriage law on the states is patently unconstitutional. Today the justices made their decision not based on the rule of law, but based on their own personal preferences. All five justices who voted for the majority should be ashamed of themselves.

Oh and how about the fact that five unelected officials of the judicial branch just created law in the United States. Can't have an oligarchy with those pesky checks and balances getting in the way!


Troll level is terrible, so very terrible.
Jun 26 2015 11:54PM
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BravoWhiskey5280
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theabortionatorUm, you can get unnoficially married to a bookshelf but if you want to have the legal aspects such ad taxes, health etc it needs to be recognized. Do you not grasp this? Also this didnt change in this ruling


Oh, kind of like how a man can say he's a woman even though he has a dick?
Jun 27 2015 12:02AM
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000000000000
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Granite_StateCan't wait to see the backlash from the southern states.


Well yeah, they get there flag taken away and homos can marry now. maybe this time they will secede.
Jun 27 2015 12:27AM
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integralmgmt
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J.D.If you actually read the judgment there are some fairly hilarious bits in there. This is from Roberts's dissent:

"the Court invalidates the marriage laws of more than half the States and orders the transformation of a social institution that has formed the basis of human society for millennia, for the Kalahari Bushmen and the Han Chinese, the Carthaginians and the Aztecs. Just who do we think we are?"

YEAH, YOU TELL 'EM JOHN! How dare we, the United States Supreme Court, question the wisdom and unfailing moral compass of the Aztecs? Holy Quetzalcoatl has decreed that marriage shall be between a man and a woman, and if it's good enough for the feathered serpent it's good enough for me!

Now, the virgins are almost here, where's my sacrificial dagger... knew I left it around here somewhere...


My friend knows John Roberts, like he's been to his house and shit #claim.

But seriously, that's a ridiculous dissent. Roberts is praising the actions of people throughout history while ignoring the fact that the Supreme Court has fundamentally altered American society many times before. The Court isn't accountable to the states and should remain separate or it becomes useless.
Jun 27 2015 12:29AM
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theabortionator
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WoldsWorldOh, kind of like how a man can say he's a woman even though he has a dick?


Just go away
Jun 27 2015 1:23AM
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hishighnesss
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If anyone in SF is going to be there this week for the big party hmu. I'll be there wearing a rainbow colored thong!
Jun 27 2015 5:58AM
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.Rybak.
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safarisamI'm just so excited to see my friends get married and aaaaaaaah!!!

Now to see what happens with Wisconsin and their nutjob govener.


I fucking hate walker. He thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread along with his supporters.

He is ruining and has ruined Wisconsin in multiple ways but that's a whole different discussion.


Happy about this though! Although, my dad got married about a month ago to his partner so there's that.
Jun 27 2015 9:39AM
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KravtZ
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ScaredwhiteboyThis is a huge step backwards for the United States. The Tenth Amendment explicitly grants all powers to the states that are not in the Constitution. Marriage is not in the Constitution. Forcing marriage law on the states is patently unconstitutional. Today the justices made their decision not based on the rule of law, but based on their own personal preferences. All five justices who voted for the majority should be ashamed of themselves.

Oh and how about the fact that five unelected officials of the judicial branch just created law in the United States. Can't have an oligarchy with those pesky checks and balances getting in the way!


Agreed. Im all for gay marriage rights...people should be able to marry who they want and this has no impact on my life in anyway as a straight person.

That being said...this law created sets DANGEROUS precedent for the supreme court...its a clear violation of the 10th amendment.

The problem lies with the mass uninformed population of people who get their news from fox,cnn, etc. ALL major news sources are insanely biased and preach a certain agenda whatever it is. People are to blinded to actually see what happened. Its also a very very sad state when Obama's approval goes through the roof for legalizing gay marriage when he has been one of the worst presidents in US history...saw countless FB posts of people who now love Obama for doing something that has zero impact on 99.99999% of the US's lives
Jun 27 2015 10:36AM
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the.hellion.
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ScaredwhiteboyThis is a huge step backwards for the United States. The Tenth Amendment explicitly grants all powers to the states that are not in the Constitution. Marriage is not in the Constitution. Forcing marriage law on the states is patently unconstitutional. Today the justices made their decision not based on the rule of law, but based on their own personal preferences. All five justices who voted for the majority should be ashamed of themselves.

Oh and how about the fact that five unelected officials of the judicial branch just created law in the United States. Can't have an oligarchy with those pesky checks and balances getting in the way!


Fuck your icon, dick

But - this is actually a good point - I'm not American, so I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I don't understand how the supreme court can force the legalization of gay marriage in every state, but states have the overriding power to legalize federally prohibited substances (eg. marijuana) - please no one in power find this, read this and figure out a way to ruin legalized weed or gay marriage everywhere, because it's awesome, but I'm still confused.

JD, any insight?
Jun 27 2015 10:43AM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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the.hellion.Fuck your icon, dick

But - this is actually a good point - I'm not American, so I'm a little fuzzy on the details, but I don't understand how the supreme court can force the legalization of gay marriage in every state, but states have the overriding power to legalize federally prohibited substances (eg. marijuana) - please no one in power find this, read this and figure out a way to ruin legalized weed or gay marriage everywhere, because it's awesome, but I'm still confused.

JD, any insight?


Wellllllll when states have legalised marijuana they are doing it "illegally" federally, but are betting that the feds won't try to make a big deal over it due to public opinion.

The same thing could happen with gay marriage, some southern state could pass a new law stating they don't recognize this decision, then its up to Obama to decide what route to take, since he is the head of the Executive branch of government, aka the enforcement of laws. In the 1960's JFK sent troops to stand off against local national guard in the south to help ensure integration, and in the 1860's Lincoln sent some troops to do the same thing and it started a war.

States Rights Vs. Federal law has been an issue for a longgggg time, and there isn't a super clear answer. Obviously if you ask the feds/supreme court who is right, they will tell you themselves. That what they pass is law. But some governors will tell you they have a responsibility to uphold the US' and their state's constitutions, even if it is the opposite of federal law.

And the reason that this issue affects the states where it is specifically illegal is because there are plaintiffs from every state where it's prohibited (this was done on purpose)saying their federal rights to marriage are being prohibited by their own states. If it was just one person from one state, it would set a precedent that would probably lead to legalization for the whole country, but it would only affect the one state.
Jun 27 2015 12:27PM
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J.D.
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Yeah almost nothing you just said is right.
Jun 27 2015 12:53PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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J.D.Yeah almost nothing you just said is right.


thats what high school history taught me, anything more complex takes actual knowledge.
Jun 27 2015 12:55PM
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S.J.W
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KravtZAgreed. Im all for gay marriage rights...people should be able to marry who they want and this has no impact on my life in anyway as a straight person.

That being said...this law created sets DANGEROUS precedent for the supreme court...its a clear violation of the 10th amendment.

The problem lies with the mass uninformed population of people who get their news from fox,cnn, etc. ALL major news sources are insanely biased and preach a certain agenda whatever it is. People are to blinded to actually see what happened. Its also a very very sad state when Obama's approval goes through the roof for legalizing gay marriage when he has been one of the worst presidents in US history...saw countless FB posts of people who now love Obama for doing something that has zero impact on 99.99999% of the US's lives


Shit, looks like you know more than the supreme court. You know, those judges that went to law school and studied for countless years to become lawyers, then were at the top of their profession so they became judges? Yeah well I guess you know more than them. Congratulations!!!
Jun 27 2015 1:24PM
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DubV134
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Lighting the White House rainbow colors was gay. I am definitely on the dgaf side of this but I think that was a bit far....
Precident is set - when marijuana gets legalized across the board they better light that bitch up green with fog machines in every window blowing smoke
Jun 27 2015 1:37PM
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Byron_tha_gr8
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DubV134Lighting the White House rainbow colors was gay. I am definitely on the dgaf side of this but I think that was a bit far....
Precident is set - when marijuana gets legalized across the board they better light that bitch up green with fog machines in every window blowing smoke


snood dogg will host the event.
Jun 27 2015 2:14PM
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hishighnesss
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L_Bsnood dogg will host the event.


and the kottonmouth kings will provide the music for the event
Jun 27 2015 2:21PM
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VTbass802
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KravtZsaw countless FB posts of people who now love Obama for doing something that has zero impact on 99.99999% of the US's lives


This has an impact on every American's life... It is shaping the society that we live in, the way that the government enacts social change in tbe future, and how we as American's treat and percieve one another.... Also if you think that less than .00001% of American's will take advantage of the new marraige policy you are mistaken... Having said all of that I don't think Obama deserves praise
Jun 27 2015 2:28PM
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Laurent.
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About time.
Jun 27 2015 2:35PM
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Brule.
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ScaredwhiteboyThis is a huge step backwards for the United States. The Tenth Amendment explicitly grants all powers to the states that are not in the Constitution. Marriage is not in the Constitution. Forcing marriage law on the states is patently unconstitutional. Today the justices made their decision not based on the rule of law, but based on their own personal preferences. All five justices who voted for the majority should be ashamed of themselves.

Oh and how about the fact that five unelected officials of the judicial branch just created law in the United States. Can't have an oligarchy with those pesky checks and balances getting in the way!


You are a fucking idiot. Supreme Court Justices are appointed, not elected, first off. Second, this a step forward mainly because states have slowly been recognizing same-sex marriage within the past decade. Third, not letting same-sex couples get married legally is unconstitutional if you ask me. The five justices who voted yes should be proud about how they changed America for the better. What the Supreme Court does is look over state laws and decide whether or not they are justified, and most of them found it unjustified that most states weren't recognizing same-sex marriage.

Fuck your views and fuck your confederate flag icon.
Jun 27 2015 2:48PM
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theabortionator
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One thing regarding the religious side of the argument. They act as though allowing gay people equal rights hurts them in some way, destroys their life. As if it's a step toward making their views illegal. At the same time, myself and many other people would fight for their right to believe what they want, ignorant or not. I may not support their viewpoint, but I support their right to have it. Yet those people that are crying out about religious persecution, aren't getting persecuted, but instead trying to hold back human rights for other people based on their beliefs.


It's pretty backward.

Also was stoked that somebody's anti gay religious wall of text showed up in my facebook news feed and noticed that my sister and her husband liked it. 'Murica'd.

Idk, I just hate to hear religious people play the victim in every scenario, even if they're the ones trying to oppress.
Jun 27 2015 3:07PM
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.frenchy
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S.J.WFrenchy, just because your dog doesn't say no, doesn't mean it's saying yes. A dog can't give consent, therefore you are raping your dog. I know you would love to marry your dog and this step in the way of love and equality may have you thinking you can marry your dog soon enough, but like I said a dog can't give consent.




I wasn't gonna reply to this thread until I saw this, thank you so much for making my day, honestly.
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