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anyone else following the shit storm on reddit due to pao? she apparently recently lost a lawsuit with a company she was fired from, and since then has taken a position at reddit and has shut down many subreddits that fat shamed people even though they weren't harassing. Also now admins are banning users left and right for many things related to her. I know it has little effect on us, but still makes u wonder how corrupt newschoolers is
-benedettoYou mean people who have given up? That's their choice. Yeah Amerifat!
some of us are gladly opposed to our self-inflicted fat identity.
I used to weigh 220, from watching what I eat and working out, I now weight 170. Anyone who says they can't lose weight either hasn't tried or hasn't tried long enough. I have no sympathy for someone suffering from a fixable problem.
L_Bsome of us are gladly opposed to our self-inflicted fat identity.
I used to weigh 220, from watching what I eat and working out, I now weight 170. Anyone who says they can't lose weight either hasn't tried or hasn't tried long enough. I have no sympathy for someone suffering from a fixable problem.
That's awesome and I mostly agree with you, but it's not always as simple as not trying or not trying hard enough.
Some people have medical issues that make it difficult to manage weight. Whatever.
I think a huge challenge many face with regards to losing weight and fixing diet is poverty and access to healthy food. Tons of poverty stricken, low income neighborhoods simply don't have grocery stores in them or nearby. Those people are forced to either bus/taxi/walk pretty significant distances to get to a grocery store. For lots of people, even that small extra expense is too much. When you add the fact that crappy, processed food is significantly cheaper than healthy food (fruits/veggies/meat/etc). You can get like two, three or even four 2l bottles of soda for the same price as 4l of milk and four bags of chips or who knows how many bags of ramen noodles for the same price as a lb of ground beef. When you are trying to stretch every last dollar, crappy, processed food is the way to go.
Systemic poverty is much more complicated to fix that just 'go get a job'. When you're worried about where your next meal is coming from, the last thing you are thinking about is nutritional value or counting calories.
saskskierThat's awesome and I mostly agree with you, but it's not always as simple as not trying or not trying hard enough.
Some people have medical issues that make it difficult to manage weight. Whatever.
People get fat because intake > energy expenditure.
Even for those with medical issues, whom most have brought on themselves by getting fat in the first place and the actual diseases are far rarer then 25% of a population.
The whole fat acceptance movement is so dumb. There's a difference between outright calling people fat, fatty, Obese fucker etc and telling fat people that there's nothing wrong with being fat. No being fat causes all types of problems and if you think being fat is fine then you're an idiot.
Titus69reddit is for annoying 13 year olds that think they "troll"
I have had the opposite experience there. I just visit subreddits I am interested in and research topics and it works great. Topics like making edibles, camping, hammocks, hiking, festivals etc. Lot of great shit on their if you focus in on it. Subreddits where trolls get kicked or deleted.
saskskierThat's awesome and I mostly agree with you, but it's not always as simple as not trying or not trying hard enough.
Some people have medical issues that make it difficult to manage weight. Whatever.
I think a huge challenge many face with regards to losing weight and fixing diet is poverty and access to healthy food. Tons of poverty stricken, low income neighborhoods simply don't have grocery stores in them or nearby. Those people are forced to either bus/taxi/walk pretty significant distances to get to a grocery store. For lots of people, even that small extra expense is too much. When you add the fact that crappy, processed food is significantly cheaper than healthy food (fruits/veggies/meat/etc). You can get like two, three or even four 2l bottles of soda for the same price as 4l of milk and four bags of chips or who knows how many bags of ramen noodles for the same price as a lb of ground beef. When you are trying to stretch every last dollar, crappy, processed food is the way to go.
Systemic poverty is much more complicated to fix that just 'go get a job'. When you're worried about where your next meal is coming from, the last thing you are thinking about is nutritional value or counting calories.
I'm a broke black kid. I didn't even try to eat "healthier", I just ate much less junk food when I chose to eat it, and spent an equal amount of money buying pretty average groceries. And I worked out 6 days a week. Spent no extra money, in fact I probably saved money buy not buying more food than I needed. I chose to take the extra time to ride the bus to a real grocery store, I chose to work out and find pick up basketball and football games and run and skate until I was fit.
Thyroid issues have been proven to increase weight 10-15 lbs, and in extreme cases 20 lbs.
louie.miragsI have had the opposite experience there. I just visit subreddits I am interested in and research topics and it works great. Topics like making edibles, camping, hammocks, hiking, festivals etc. Lot of great shit on their if you focus in on it. Subreddits where trolls get kicked or deleted.
Ok Im basically just going off the kids in my classes, who are 16 or 17 and they think everything a 12 year laughs at is funny when its fucking stupid.
Laurent.People get fat because intake > energy expenditure.
Even for those with medical issues, whom most have brought on themselves by getting fat in the first place and the actual diseases are far rarer then 25% of a population.
L_BThyroid issues have been proven to increase weight 10-15 lbs, and in extreme cases 20 lbs.
I shouldn't have brought up the medical thing. I recognize and agree that it's only a tiny fraction of people that have legitimate reason to use that as an excuse.
I disagree with fat shaming on the premise that alot of them are trying to improve their situatuions, which should be encouraged and not shamed.
i think there are two types of fat people.
I have a massive amount of respect for the very large people you see at the gym everyday because when you're that far down the road of obesity it takes ALOT of willpower and courage to go out in public and work out. I always tell people to shut the fuck up if they're laughing at fat person in the gym, because that person is at least trying to positively change their health
but then you have the politically correct fat people that dont work out who are all like i wont be ashamed of my body or my lifestyle blah blah blah even though its super well known that obesity is super unhealthy.
disclaimer: i do not have any issues with positive body image but i think its great BUT being proud of your obesity makes you an idiot, It is pos sible to not ashamed of your body , while realizing you should improve your health at the same time.
L_BI'm a broke black kid. I didn't even try to eat "healthier", I just ate much less junk food when I chose to eat it, and spent an equal amount of money buying pretty average groceries. And I worked out 6 days a week. Spent no extra money, in fact I probably saved money buy not buying more food than I needed. I chose to take the extra time to ride the bus to a real grocery store, I chose to work out and find pick up basketball and football games and run and skate until I was fit.
Where you/your parents unemployed? Have mental health issues? Ongoing trauma from years of systemic physical, sexual, emotional abuse? Were you taken away from your parents as a kid? Did you raise your siblings? Learn how to parent as a kid because your parents are drug addicts/alcoholics?
If those situations apply to you, I'm sorry and that's awesome you made it through as a healthy person. If they don't apply, you should read up on the impact they have on a person.
All I'm trying to say here is that for many people, surviving one day to the next or trying to put some kind of food on the table is more important that what kind of food it is. Lot's of people didn't have healthy parental figures in their home and haven't learned how to cook or what is/isn't healthy. Things lots of us take for granted.
These are situations I see everyday at work. When you see what some people have gone through and what they are going through, something like their weight is so far down the list of things to be critical of.
i dislike fat people that have no motivation to improve their situation, if its medical thats one thing, but if its just because you're lazy then fuck urself. those that work to maintain their weight or lose it, my respect for them increases dramatically. on the other hand fat acceptance is simply ignorant as its extremely poor for your overall health, and ad/models that support such movement is asinine as well.
BigTownKidget that fat ass eheath to delete this thread. this is hate speech
I lol'd
I think people who think they need to "shame" fat people are fucking ridiculous, but im bias ;) I also ski and do other physical activities, so im not exactly the one being attacked, but I can sympathize. What's funny is everyone who 'fat shames' online would never say that to someones face, its quite childish really.
msewardI disagree with fat shaming on the premise that alot of them are trying to improve their situatuions, which should be encouraged and not shamed.
i think there are two types of fat people.
I have a massive amount of respect for the very large people you see at the gym everyday because when you're that far down the road of obesity it takes ALOT of willpower and courage to go out in public and work out. I always tell people to shut the fuck up if they're laughing at fat person in the gym, because that person is at least trying to positively change their health
I occasionally feel bad for these types of fat folks because marketing schemes by companies must fuck with them. For example, diet soda will make you fat. Anything labeled "low-fat" is probably not good for you. Actually, healthy fats are great for you and don't make you fat. There is so much mis-info out there sometimes they think they are doing it right but not getting anywhere. I say occasionally I feel bad because the times I don't I realize they are just trying to take short cuts.
I think the key is to eat as natural as possible and exercise. And do not treat it like a "diet". Make it your new lifestyle or it will fail. Because once you get off the "diet" you blow back up.
louie.miragsI occasionally feel bad for these types of fat folks because marketing schemes by companies must fuck with them. For example, diet soda will make you fat. Anything labeled "low-fat" is probably not good for you.
Not just fat people fall for this marketing. Have you ever met a white girl? Lol, agree with you though.
If you've gotten far bc you don't care and just let yourself go, sucks for you I have no sympathy. If you have some disease that makes you fat or you simply can't afford to eat healthy, then I have sympathy.
louie.miragsI occasionally feel bad for these types of fat folks because marketing schemes by companies must fuck with them. For example, diet soda will make you fat. Anything labeled "low-fat" is probably not good for you. Actually, healthy fats are great for you and don't make you fat. There is so much mis-info out there sometimes they think they are doing it right but not getting anywhere. I say occasionally I feel bad because the times I don't I realize they are just trying to take short cuts.
I think the key is to eat as natural as possible and exercise. And do not treat it like a "diet". Make it your new lifestyle or it will fail. Because once you get off the "diet" you blow back up.
exercise is overrated apart from walking, cutting sugar is key
If people would have some portion control, they wouldn't be fat plain and simple. Even if you have a disease that makes you fat or have genes that make you store more fat, adjust your intake. You'll slim down. You can't be fat if you expend more energy than you consume. Just doesn't work that way. You can eat McDonalds every day of the week for breakfast, lunch and dinner and stay at a healthy body weight if you have portion control. Portion control is really more important for your health then what you eat.
Really any fat acceptance movement is just a mascaraed for a 'having no self control' acceptance movement. Just my 2 cents.
I think people who think they need to "shame" fat people are fucking ridiculous, but im bias ;) I also ski and do other physical activities, so im not exactly the one being attacked, but I can sympathize. What's funny is everyone who 'fat shames' online would never say that to someones face, its quite childish really.
99% of the shit that is talked online would never be talked in real life.
kung_powpowCome to Colorado, fat people don't even exist here. I was amazed when I went to Texas and Lousinana at the amount of obese people in comparison to CO
louie.miragsI have had the opposite experience there. I just visit subreddits I am interested in and research topics and it works great. Topics like making edibles, camping, hammocks, hiking, festivals etc. Lot of great shit on their if you focus in on it. Subreddits where trolls get kicked or deleted.
yeah, your reddit experience is completely dependent on what subs you take part in. the main ones, pics, funny, all suck 95% of the time. a lot of the smaller ones are really cool communities
L_Bsome of us are gladly opposed to our self-inflicted fat identity.
I used to weigh 220, from watching what I eat and working out, I now weight 170. Anyone who says they can't lose weight either hasn't tried or hasn't tried long enough. I have no sympathy for someone suffering from a fixable problem.
Same here, 4 years ago I topped out at 240, I currently weight 180. I'm not going to say it was easy but I got down to 160 at one point. Its beyond doable. I don't want to even hear excuses from anyone. (not that I'm grilling fat people about their weight)
90053exercise is overrated apart from walking, cutting sugar is key
i'll buy that. So hard for the newbie to eating right to cut sugar though. It is in everything in the middle of the supermarket. To sound cliche, the best bet is to start at produce and walk around the supermarket avoiding most of the middle aisles. Produce > meat and get the fuck outta there
Peter.yeah, your reddit experience is completely dependent on what subs you take part in. the main ones, pics, funny, all suck 95% of the time. a lot of the smaller ones are really cool communities
kinda disappointed in the skiing subreddit, honestly. has the potential to be a cool community but there are too many twats that ruin the fun. go to any sweet POV edit on there and you'll find a few comments pissing and moaning about how "Reckless" and how much of a danger that skier is to people around them.
DeebieSkeebieskinda disappointed in the skiing subreddit, honestly. has the potential to be a cool community but there are too many twats that ruin the fun. go to any sweet POV edit on there and you'll find a few comments pissing and moaning about how "Reckless" and how much of a danger that skier is to people around them.
oh yeah definitely. skiing is very hit or miss. usually it's alright though
