Well you've probably seen this in SIA already, but here it is. The 2015/2016 ON3P lineup.
Let this be the thread for anything ON3P in the next year...
http://issuu.com/on3pskis/docs/on3pskis_catalog2015_online/1?e=3608669/11175317
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StayAmphibiousHey guys, I'm getting either the kartel 98 or 106 this weekend. I'm 5'10" and 170, between intermediate and advanced considering how long its been since I've skiied regularly, most of my skiing will be east coast and maybe 10% park but mostly just hitting natural features on the whole mountain. What size and length do you guys recommend?
iggyskierWhat mountains do you ski at?
StayAmphibiousKillington and a bunch of other similar mountains up there. Spring break will be Bolton valley and stowe but for the time being I'm stuck with whitetail in PA since I'm at school in Maryland.
StayAmphibiousHey guys, I'm getting either the kartel 98 or 106 this weekend. I'm 5'10" and 170, between intermediate and advanced considering how long its been since I've skiied regularly, most of my skiing will be east coast and maybe 10% park but mostly just hitting natural features on the whole mountain. What size and length do you guys recommend?
jackdonovanI would go with 181 or 186 leaning towards the Kartel 106. I'm same height as you and 145 lbs, I went with 181 Filthy Riches that were mounted dead center and was between 181 and 186. I think you have the weight/power to pull around the 186s, also where are you planning on mounting?
StayAmphibiousDefinitely going recommended, I have some center mounted after bangs for park stuff. The kartels will be for all mountain stuff mainly.
RudyGarmischSo very stoked on ch-ch-changes...
Calling 2016/2017 thread...
ghosthopsteeple 102's are the shit. There has been talk about getting a baby billygoat made, I think if on3p released a limited steeple 102 that rode damper and was capable in chop I would be into it.
RudyGarmischSo very stoked on ch-ch-changes...
Calling 2016/2017 thread...
LiteratureIt exists, in the form of what we called the "Suncup Ski"--a pair of Steeple 102s from a few years back with three sheets of carbon. They're the stiffest skis I've ever owned, and I ski them pretty rarely, but every time I do, they blow me out of the water with their quickness and ability to charge. So good at racing down crud-y bump fields at mach speed.
The radius is a little long for the waist, but damn are they fun.
PowTronSince it leaked already ANYWAY...
2016-2017 Goodness:
http://issuu.com/on3pskis/docs/on3pskis_sia_catalog_2016_issuu
MartianManDamn, those are some huge (and very interesting) changes. No more Filthy or Prester, and a slimmer waists across the Wren and Steeple lines. I'm kind of surprised that the fattest freestyle pow ski is 116 underfoot, but I will no doubt be picking up some Kartel 108's when orders start. Those look delicious.
iggyskierSander Hadley pro model in the works but he's having a slight bit of a mid-life-ski-crisis as the terrain he's been shooting on with MSP is requiring a different type of ski that he has liked in the past, so the ski we had in the works for him is currently being held out of the line while we continue to prototype and dial in a proper shape for him.
jackdonovanfuck no more filthy riches. was hoping that the magnuses were gonna be symmetrical, as i love the filthy riches for this reason and many others. just gonna stock up on some slightly used filthy riches from now i guess
jackdonovandub post but why drop the flagship park ski and a very well known one at that which has been around for 5 seasons?
MartianManDamn, those are some huge (and very interesting) changes. No more Filthy or Prester, and a slimmer waists across the Wren and Steeple lines. I'm kind of surprised that the fattest freestyle pow ski is 116 underfoot, but I will no doubt be picking up some Kartel 108's when orders start. Those look delicious.
iggyskierWe're packing up to get on the road for SIA, so don't have a ton of time, but happy to dive into all the details on what we changed and why in the next couple days.
There is a fatter, Sander Hadley pro model in the works but he's having a slight bit of a mid-life-ski-crisis as the terrain he's been shooting on with MSP is requiring a different type of ski that he has liked in the past, so the ski we had in the works for him is currently being held out of the line while we continue to prototype and dial in a proper shape for him.
BWalmerI had the same concerns a year ago at SIA, but after thinking it through and riding the Prester more (a non-symmetrical park ski) I've come around. The FR will certainly be missed, but not all change is bad. Magnus and the guys have put in a ton work to make this THE best park ski on the planet. It's shape will actually help with carving both forward and switch while the way it's been profiled will make it balanced keeping the swing weight down. The new rocker shape will make butters and presses even easier while allowing for a more stable platform underfoot. Again, I was worried too, but I'm now convinced that the Magnus is going to be a welcomed change once everyone gives it a go.
BWalmerI had the same concerns a year ago at SIA, but after thinking it through and riding the Prester more (a non-symmetrical park ski) I've come around. The FR will certainly be missed, but not all change is bad. Magnus and the guys have put in a ton work to make this THE best park ski on the planet. It's shape will actually help with carving both forward and switch while the way it's been profiled will make it balanced keeping the swing weight down. The new rocker shape will make butters and presses even easier while allowing for a more stable platform underfoot. Again, I was worried too, but I'm now convinced that the Magnus is going to be a welcomed change once everyone gives it a go.
This is simple...the FR hasn't changed in 5+ years, it was time. In order to continue progressing, change must happen. The proof was made clear when the Kartel 98 became the top selling ski - by a lot. Everyone thought it was the FR, but the Kartel is simply more versatile and therefore hits a wider market. The FR needed an upgrade - and the Magnus will blow it out of the water.
Presters were pretty rarely bought...which is unfortunate because they fucking rip. The slimmer Wren is a result of requests actually. When people see the line-up (especially here on the east coast) they think every ski is a powder ski except the park skis. One of the best selling skis on the market is the Rossi Experience 88, it's also what most PSIA instructors use (there is a correlation here...but that's for another day) the new Wren 88 is better than the Experience 88 and goes after that market. The Wren 102 was awesome, and for some people made a ton of sense, but the new Wren line is simply more versatile around the mountain - not every day of skiing is on perfect snow, so now the Wren 88 and 98 are there to handle those days. Almost everyone who tried the Wren 102 loved it, but wished it was slimmer, now it is.
I was wondering where the Sander ski was, this now makes sense.
jackdonovanyeah, ive ridden non-symmetrical skis before but enjoyed the symmetrical aspect of the filthy rich and thought that the magnus would be symmetrical. so is it essentially a non-symmetrical softer filthy rich with a better landing platform?
BWalmerPresters were pretty rarely bought...which is unfortunate because they fucking rip. The slimmer Wren is a result of requests actually. When people see the line-up (especially here on the east coast) they think every ski is a powder ski except the park skis. One of the best selling skis on the market is the Rossi Experience 88, it's also what most PSIA instructors use (there is a correlation here...but that's for another day) the new Wren 88 is better than the Experience 88 and goes after that market. The Wren 102 was awesome, and for some people made a ton of sense, but the new Wren line is simply more versatile around the mountain - not every day of skiing is on perfect snow, so now the Wren 88 and 98 are there to handle those days. Almost everyone who tried the Wren 102 loved it, but wished it was slimmer, now it is.
baggis123will the magnus be able to fill the gap of the filthy rich and prester? going to miss the filthy rich
rudagerThe Cease and Desists look like a nice alternative; big waist would slay the deep stuff, but huge nose rocker makes me question how it'll be for the big mountain aspect of pow charging days.