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The Overjustification Effect and Skiing

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Mingg
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The over justification effect happens when external motivators such as money or prizes decrease someones intrinsic motivation(motivation from within) to do a task. When someone is offered money, prizes, or any other external reward for doing something that was once done based purely for the joy of it, their motivation shifts from intrinsic to extrinsic motivation. When the external rewards are no longer offered, interest decreases significantly and the intrinsic motivation does not "come back."

In more basic terms, if you pay someone to do something, they are now motivated by money/ prizes and not by themselves. When you take away their pay they will not have the same interest in pursuing the activity and often times don't have the same intrinsic motivation.

No one wants to admit that their love for skiing may have decreased, but does it happen? Sponsored skiers, has this happened to you? Other industry people, does this include you?
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Jun 5 2015 2:02PM
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TheDoughAbides
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I think it has more to do with the fact that doing the same thing everyday gets old no matter what...
Jun 5 2015 2:44PM
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kung_powpow
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Looks like someone took psych 1001
Jun 5 2015 3:11PM
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Big_Mtn
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There are people who ski and go out and have fun, and there are people trying to go out and win crap. Then there are people that are out there having a blast and spreading good vibes who happen to be good at skiing, these are the people I like.
Jun 5 2015 3:37PM
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skidemon22
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Also, some people just like winning. You can't really "win" if there is no contention determine who is the best... so maybe people aren't motivated to ski in contests because there is money involved, instead they ski in contests to win at something they are passionate about, and think they are better at it then other people
Jun 5 2015 6:57PM
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theabortionator
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Because nobody that's winning money or stuff still likes skiing and does it for the love of the sport.

Once people make money doing something they clearly only do it for the money, and will never have the love for it again.

Brilliant observation.
Jun 5 2015 7:15PM
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Chubz.
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Only ski for money. Comps r lyfe



Nick goepper is my brother
Jun 5 2015 7:47PM
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Literature
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This is so much broader than skiing.

Anyone who takes what they do, what they are talented at, what they are passionate about, and turns it into a revenue stream has to reckon what the course will be for them. How will they maintain the passion they originally found? How will they keep the people who pay them happy? Finding balance is a reflection of their personality and circumstances.

Perhaps the biggest point is that this isn't black and white. It's not like someone's passion goes away the night they get a check. And people sacrifice what they love for money all the time--that's called a real job that doesn't pay you to do what you care about.

Once again, it's worth noting that sponsorship is a job--sometimes it's the best thing you've ever done, and sometimes it sucks. There's way more "sponsored pros" out there struggling along than you'd suspect. Free gear won't pay rent. Doing what you care about usually takes a pay cut not because you get to do what you love, but because there are plenty of people who will do the same kinds of things for less.

For my part, I'm extremely grateful for the people who believe in and support me in my endeavors. It's a huge privilege.
Jun 7 2015 8:55PM
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bakerpunk
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Ok psychologist here checking in, intrinsic motivation is the reason people ski in the first place, the feeling you get landing a new trick or a hard trick is what keeps most people going. Also i don't think very many pro's push themselves and the sport just for the money. So i think this point is a little over thought out. another thing im not a psychologist. you are.
Jun 8 2015 1:01PM
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Jaggy_Snake
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I think you're overthinking it. The "comp guys" do because they enjoy the competitiveness of that side of skiing, compared to the skiers who film edits/segments who ski for that.

Sure, money/prizes/whatever are a nice incentive, but I doubt they ski for just that.
Jun 8 2015 1:10PM
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frosted_flakes
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this is clearly just a ploy for mingg to identify pros to bone
Jun 8 2015 6:18PM
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Mingg
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Jaggy_SnakeI think you're overthinking it. The "comp guys" do because they enjoy the competitiveness of that side of skiing, compared to the skiers who film edits/segments who ski for that.

Sure, money/prizes/whatever are a nice incentive, but I doubt they ski for just that.


I mean, I don't know how I overthought this. I didn't really give my thoughts on it or anything. I was just wondering if this applied to people in the industry and what they thought about it!


frosted_flakesthis is clearly just a ploy for mingg to identify pros to bone


I don't even know how to respond to this.
Jun 8 2015 8:26PM
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