SANDERS 2016

MALEPRIVILEGEYou aren't wrong but as far as I'm concerned there is no good reason not to vote.

onenerdykidWhile I also think that people should always vote, the Electoral College does a fantastic job at dissuading people from voting. In other words, our very political system, through no conspiracy or ill will, naturally dissuades its citizens from voting. If we ever hope to have a higher voter turnout, then that archaic system needs to be dropped.

onenerdykidWhile I also think that people should always vote, the Electoral College does a fantastic job at dissuading people from voting. In other words, our very political system, through no conspiracy or ill will, naturally dissuades its citizens from voting. If we ever hope to have a higher voter turnout, then that archaic system needs to be dropped.

MALEPRIVILEGEYes it does. I believe we could easily have a kiosk system nationwide for people use that could easily tally every vote.

.MASSHOLE.That isn't solving the problem though. Assuming kiosks could ever be viable (hint, they won't unless the government is ions ahead on encryption methods), you need to make voting easier before more people will vote. Easy doesn't mean just simpler vote-tallying methods, it means easier to understand (simpler platforms, simpler ballots), more accessible (where would you hold all these kiosks?), and generally less time consuming.

AgitatedHiatusIs free college really a feasible idea? I find it hard to believe that with the amount of debt that we have, that we can give up the revenue that comes from colleges. Trump's financial plan is actually really solid, and unlike Sanders, he chooses to focus on a couple of things rather than a lot. I was for Bernie before, but if he doesn't limit his ideas to a few things that he can actually accomplish I may vote for Trump even though he's an idiot with foreign policy.

AgitatedHiatusIs free college really a feasible idea? I find it hard to believe that with the amount of debt that we have, that we can give up the revenue that comes from colleges. Trump's financial plan is actually really solid, and unlike Sanders, he chooses to focus on a couple of things rather than a lot. I was for Bernie before, but if he doesn't limit his ideas to a few things that he can actually accomplish I may vote for Trump even though he's an idiot with foreign policy.

onenerdykidThe concept of free state college tuition is incredibly feasible, provided our other spending is in check. Many countries have it and thus prove it can be. But if we continue to have a defense budget (spending) that is equal to the next 9 or 10 countries combined, then we will have an issue doing anything, not just providing free state college tuition.

AgitatedHiatusWhat I want Bernie to do is focus on a few points, and not a ton of them.

The.Natty.VeganFighting wealth inequality, free college, free healthcare and racial equality is hardly alot of points.

AgitatedHiatusComing from his website:
Issues:
Income and Wealth Inequality
Making college debt free
Getting money out of politics and restoring democracy
Creating decent paying jobs
A living wage
Climate change and environment
Racial justice
A fair and humane immigration policy
Fighting for Women's Rights
Fighting for LBGT Rights
Caring for our Veterans
Strengthen and expand Social Security
Fighting to lower prescription drug prices
Reforming Wall Street
Real family values
War and Peace
War should be the last option: Why I support the Iran Deal.


I'll put the link here in case you think I'm lying.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

onenerdykidWhich are all great topics that a world leader should pursue. If he becomes president, he has 4 years to get through all of that. It won't happen over-night.

AgitatedHiatusYou think that all of that can happen in four years with how divided our government is? Everything he stands for is good, but he should cut down on what he wants to do this term, get that done, and then get elected again and pursue that.

onenerdykidI was being a bit facetious but obviously part of his reasoning for saying/listing that is to appeal to people who hold the same beliefs. If you leave something off that list, it could very well be something that someone is looking for in the next president.

louie.mirags"What we need is more economic growth, not less... Improved technology and greater capital investment will lead to higher living standards for all and provide greater material comforts, as well as the leisure to pursue and enjoy the 'spiritual' side of life. There is precious little culture or civilization available for people who must work long hours to eke out a subsistence living. The real problem is that productive capital investment is being siphoned off by taxes, restrictions, and government contracts for unproductive and wasteful government expenditures, including military..." - Rothbard

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The combined net worth of the 2013 class of the 400 richest Americans is $2 trillion, up from $1.7 trillion in 2012. The average net worth of a 2015 Forbes 400 member was $3.86 billion, down $60 million from 2014. As of March 2015, the US has 536 billionaires.

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Fred_BearSo bernie wants to shoot all black guys? Is that why he has a gun pointed at him?

onenerdykidKiller Mike's opening speech:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/796134/Killer-Mike-Gives-A-Powerful-Speech-At-Bernie-Sanders-Rally-In-Atlanta-Nov-23rd-2015

mirozHe's an eloquent dude, that was awesome.

Apparently some republicans like Sanders too. Granted, it seems like "authenticity" is the main draw, but interesting nonetheless.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/11/the-lifelong-conservatives-who-love-bernie-sanders/417441/#

louie.mirags"Asking kids who don't go to college to subsidize the one's who go" -Dave Smith

louie.miragsAnd, yes, Sanders says some good things, but his solution to society's ills relies on more government when it was, and is, too much government that created the bulk of the ills that plague American society today, i.e. intrusive, militaristic foreign policy and never-ending wars; the insane drug war; police militarization; the prison industrial system; a failing education system; a bloated welfare state that rewards irresponsibility and penalizes productivity and independence; an obscenely ridiculous and complex tax system; environmental degradation resulting from the governments endless wars; the debasement of our currency; an out of control national debt; the list could go on. All of this with no accountability for anyone pushing these failed policies on American society.

fatmilfJust wondering, who are you voting for?

louie.miragsSo, I may not vote.

louie.miragsRand Paul has a lot of great things to say but he is shying away from being a full on libertarian. So, I may not vote.

MALEPRIVILEGEPlease vote. It's incredibley important that you do.

onenerdykidEven if Rand doesn't become the GOP candidate, you should definitely vote, Louie. Of the two main choices that will be laid before you, one of them will be closer to Rand's values than the other and you should pick that candidate who is. One of the things I have learned is that a perfect president will not be born out of a single election. It will take time and it will take numerous presidential evolutions to get there and you have to start somewhere or else it will never happen.

mirozI understand the sentiment behind not voting, but sometimes on the other hand it seems like people are pouting at the dinner table because you don't like anything on the menu - it makes me want to say, "Shut up and eat the damn vegetables. Be happy you have any food in front of you at all."

jason...If I was American, I would 100% vote for Bernie Sanders. He is for the people, he will give you the best chance to improve everyday life for your citizens. But as I Canadian, I want a republican candidate to win. Not Trump of course, he's a little too out there. Jeb Bush would probably be a good option. And the only reason I say that, is because I selfishly want the USA to remain a war monger with the massive military power that they possess. 'Cause then nobody will fuck with Canada.

Monsieur_PatateYes, because so many countries have been wanting to fuck with Canada for so long now. They are just waiting for the US to stop spending so much on their military. As soon as they do, you guys can expect to be invaded by Greenland.

Seriously, who do you think would want to fuck with Canada anyway?

The only 'possible' threat could come from Daech or AQ, but those guys don't really give a fuck about the military power of their targets. Even if they did, I don't think Canada is at the top of their priority list anyway.

My point is, even if Sanders is elected, I'm sure Canada is going to be just fine.

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CampeadorAnd yet you wouldn't say the same about the cops killed due to the rhetoric of BLM, which has been supported by Obama. Here you have a very direct connection, where protesters have been shown calling out for violence against police officers, and in many cases, actually attacking police officers.

MALEPRIVILEGEYou know there is more than just who is going to be president on the ballet.

i used to think like you, in 6 years I have never voted. After canvassing for 3 months I now realize how important voting is. Please vote. It's incredibley important that you do.

Only 23% of voters turned out for 2012. It's a disgrace and I don't want to be a part of the group who doesn't give a shit.

louie.miragshttp://beinglibertarian.com/2015/11/29/the-top-5-reasons-why-liberals-should-consider-rand-paul-and-libertarianism/

I went from being a liberal to a Libertarian for a lot of the same reasons this article states.

lampyou must be a victim.

#StandWithRand
#LiberalismIsAMentalDisorder