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VT_FLOYeah 900/month is cheap for San francisco, not for a rural state.

That is perhaps the most out of context statement in this whole thread. You should be fucking ashamed.

Burlington is one of the coolest college cities anywhere and of course living in it is going to be expensive.

Go ten miles outside the city and you're straight up bucolic, rural VT and rent is fucking ridiculously low. Like half of what you stated.

By saying that as if it was that way everywhere is not only purposely misleading, but it shows you simply don't understand that's how it works in any city, let alone a really cool college city that's in a fucking awesome location that appeals to a ton of people.

Come on man. Tone down the crazy at least for the sake of the conversation.

VT_FLOI would go to City Market to show you the 10$/lb localorganicgmofreenonantibiotic chicken but I moved out of the city and now shop at Hannafords. As for the fast food ban yeah that's real.

Which, for the record, is fucking awesome not to have McDonald's on/near Church St.

I would much rather take my hard earned money and go support locally owned and farmer supported places like Stone Soup or El Cortijo or Farmhouse.

And if City Markup is too expensive for you (which I could see it being for some things) just go to Shaw's. It's literally a 2 minute drive down the same road.

I am confused about the Vermont thing, yes taxes are high, yes supporting local businesses vs super businesses is more expensive.

BUT

You have one of the lowest unemployment rates, a very competitive median income, and residents are overwhelmingly satisfied with their quality of life.

You pay high taxes, and it costs a bit to live there, but it seems people are pretty happy with life overall, and that seems proper to me.

VT_FLOSource: I just spent 5 months traveling Europe. I live in Vermont

Did Bernie's policies leave you so cash strapped you could only afford a 5 month vs full year European traveling vacation?

ndyeYou have one of the lowest unemployment rates, a very competitive median income, and residents are overwhelmingly satisfied with their quality of life.

You pay high taxes, and it costs a bit to live there, but it seems people are pretty happy with life overall, and that seems proper to me.

Burlington (and typically Vermont in general) is consistently ranked as one of the best places to live in the USA. Rankings based on quality of life, school systems, outdoor life, raising a family etc. In the 7 years I lived there, I don't think I ever heard a person genuinely complaining about life in Burlington. The dating scene gets a little inbred at times but the only thing that really sucked was I never saw Champ.

onenerdykidBurlington (and typically Vermont in general) is consistently ranked as one of the best places to live in the USA. Rankings based on quality of life, school systems, outdoor life, raising a family etc. In the 7 years I lived there, I don't think I ever heard a person genuinely complaining about life in Burlington. The dating scene gets a little inbred at times but the only thing that really sucked was I never saw Champ.

So are you saying Burlington does have a Chipotle?

DlCKSo are you saying Burlington does have a Chipotle?

They do, along with a lot of other similarly styled truly local places. Burlington is my favorite.

DlCKSo are you saying Burlington does have a Chipotle?

I guess there is one out by the Shaw's actually, but I have never been to it. There are 3 Mexican spots right in downtown that I would prefer to be at so I can people watch and bar hop.

But right now, I would drown a baby in a shallow puddle for burrito from just about anywhere. Definitely not a perk about living in Austria- the Mexican food here is more like what an Austrian thinks a British tourist thinks Mexican food might be.

onenerdykidI guess there is one out by the Shaw's actually, but I have never been to it. There are 3 Mexican spots right in downtown that I would prefer to be at so I can people watch and bar hop.

But right now, I would drown a baby in a shallow puddle for burrito from just about anywhere. Definitely not a perk about living in Austria- the Mexican food here is more like what an Austrian thinks a British tourist thinks Mexican food might be.

Looks like im moving to Austria and starting a Mexican Restaurant.

onenerdykidBurlington (and typically Vermont in general) is consistently ranked as one of the best places to live in the USA. Rankings based on quality of life, school systems, outdoor life, raising a family etc. In the 7 years I lived there, I don't think I ever heard a person genuinely complaining about life in Burlington. The dating scene gets a little inbred at times but the only thing that really sucked was I never saw Champ.

Ah but Vermont is still going bankrupt...

DlCKSo are you saying Burlington does have a Chipotle?

Right next to 5 Guys and Subway;)

ndyeThey do, along with a lot of other similarly styled truly local places. Burlington is my favorite.

Same, top 2 favorite cities in America, with Boston.

Bernie Sanders for President

Today's minimum wage of $7.25 an hour is a starvation wage. We need to raise that to a living wage, because anyone who works 40 hours a week shouldn't live in poverty.

Yesterday I introduced a bill in Congress to raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour. Add your name to say you support a $15 minimum wage.

The simple truth is that working people cannot survive on $7.25 an hour. Yet more than 30 million people work every day for a minimum wage that is totally inadequate to provide for their families.

Some of those folks shared with our campaign what a living wage would mean for them, and I am honored to share some of their stories with you:

"I could afford to go back to work if minimum wage was $15. It costs my family less for me to stay home than to pay childcare and transportation costs to work for $9.50/hr." - Elizabeth in Ohio

"A $15 minimum wage would mean that my daughter and I could finally stop living paycheck to paycheck." - Jamie in California

"It would make me happy to know the people serving me in restaurants and working in other businesses I patronize are being paid at a higher level that may help them get ahead." - Patricia in Indiana

"As a single mother of two, a $15 minimum wage would mean being able to sleep at night instead of spending countless sleepless hours worrying about how I'm going to keep a roof over my childrens' heads and food on the table...and maybe even be able to keep more than $5 in my savings account." - Nichole in California

"I could pay my bills, get health insurance, save for a car, and groceries...I can barely afford bills at the moment and once the bills are paid, no money is left over for anything else." - Hilary in Florida

"Right now I am making $9.50 an hour. Unfortunately, this is the highest paying job I have ever had and it still is not enough to help me become stable. I was forced to move back in with my mother, which is causing her stress as well because she has to still take care of me after she has already raised 8 children. I feel like a burden and that I should be out on my own, but I'm not. I would be so happy and so content if the minimum wage was raised to $15 in all 50 states! It would mean a new beginning to my life as well as a good start to my mother worrying less." - Abbigail in Wisconsin

Add your name to support a $15 minimum wage.

Sign the petition
"A $15 minimum wage would mean that my daughter and I could finally stop living paycheck to paycheck." - Jamie in California

"As a small business owner, I believe I would benefit from a larger number of Americans feeling secure in their homes and knowing that they will have enough food for their families. I want to live in a country where we all make enough money to meet not just our basic subsistence needs, but also our need for happiness." - Lauren in Iowa

"I could stop living paycheck to paycheck!" - Sally in South Carolina

"I currently work two jobs and go to college full time and I can't afford my own home. I have medical bills that I pay monthly that don't leave me with enough to get by. If the minimum wage were to be raised to $15 an hour, I would not have to work nights and days just to make ends meet. I have a girlfriend, we would like to start a family, but because of finances, this is out of the question." - Eric in Oklahoma

"It would make my life a hell of a lot better." - Sophia in Louisiana

I hope that it is clear how dire it is for millions of people working full time yet living in poverty. We have a moral obligation to help them.

Sign your name next to mine to endorse a $15 minimum wage.

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Just a few months ago I would be all for a guy like Sanders. Now I am torn. The more I see and learn, the more I think we need less government. I used to think that was impossible so we might as well adapt and be more realistic. To adapt would be to have the government infiltrate more and become more socialist. Now I just can't buy into that.

louie.miragsJust a few months ago I would be all for a guy like Sanders. Now I am torn. The more I see and learn, the more I think we need less government. I used to think that was impossible so we might as well adapt and be more realistic. To adapt would be to have the government infiltrate more and become more socialist. Now I just can't buy into that.

Why is it you cant buy into that? And what are the benefits from less government, other than reduced cost...

ndyeWhy is it you cant buy into that? And what are the benefits from less government, other than reduced cost...

Reduced cost is the big on for me. A true free market would have to adapt to what people should be paid and adapt to what items and services should cost. Getting the government involved in education for example made college so fucking expensive. Same for healthcare.

Also, it seems so much government assistance makes people less ambitious. Why try to better my life if I could just get assistance? I do know that some people do really need it. But since I spend 40 hours a week earning a living I hate the fact a small percentage of the population is taking advantage of government assistance. I want to be for equal access for healthcare, education, food etc. But a part of me wants to say that people should go out and earn their own living. I am torn and now leaning toward getting the government more out of our lives. Democrats tend to want more government involvement when they want a change. And so many times that just ruins it and makes it more expensive.

louie.miragsReduced cost is the big on for me. A true free market would have to adapt to what people should be paid and adapt to what items and services should cost. Getting the government involved in education for example made college so fucking expensive. Same for healthcare.

Also, it seems so much government assistance makes people less ambitious. Why try to better my life if I could just get assistance? I do know that some people do really need it. But since I spend 40 hours a week earning a living I hate the fact a small percentage of the population is taking advantage of government assistance. I want to be for equal access for healthcare, education, food etc. But a part of me wants to say that people should go out and earn their own living. I am torn and now leaning toward getting the government more out of our lives. Democrats tend to want more government involvement when they want a change. And so many times that just ruins it and makes it more expensive.

Okay so let me help with some things, the government involvement has made college more expensive. No, the government funding college less and less has made college more expensive. The massive increases in tuition cost is from government spending less and less on education.

You spend 40 hours a week? Thats actually less than the average working American. That is exactly WHY we need a 15 hour minimum wage. Its not a 15 hour not working wage, its a working wage. A free market in which government assistance is nonexistant, and thats everything, leads to enormous amounts of greed from the top. The exploiting of our earth, and the minimal payments to the working people.

That is not an America I want to be a part of.

Imagine playing a game of monopoly, one person has 90% of the money and all the properties, youre bound to end up broke and lose, but its probably just because youre lazy

ndyeOkay so let me help with some things, the government involvement has made college more expensive. No, the government funding college less and less has made college more expensive. The massive increases in tuition cost is from government spending less and less on education.

You spend 40 hours a week? Thats actually less than the average working American. That is exactly WHY we need a 15 hour minimum wage. Its not a 15 hour not working wage, its a working wage. A free market in which government assistance is nonexistant, and thats everything, leads to enormous amounts of greed from the top. The exploiting of our earth, and the minimal payments to the working people.

That is not an America I want to be a part of.

Imagine playing a game of monopoly, one person has 90% of the money and all the properties, youre bound to end up broke and lose, but its probably just because youre lazy

I disagree. What do you mean the government is less involved with college? Do you realize the amount of people who get free rides via the government based on what their parents make? This drives up cost because the schools are going to ask for every last penny they can. Just like health insurance. And not everybody needs to go to college. If it became that nobody could afford it because they are too poor, the prices would have to go down or the schools would have to close.

When it comes to the greed from the top. That is already happening. The idea is that if nobody could afford a service or an item, the price would have to go down. Therefore, the rich man stops making his money. But now you have powerful corporations that fail, but the government props them up.

When it comes to the minimum wage, I can see that. But, if you don't like the wages, don't support those companies.

louie.miragsI disagree. What do you mean the government is less involved with college? Do you realize the amount of people who get free rides via the government based on what their parents make? This drives up cost because the schools are going to ask for every last penny they can. Just like health insurance. And not everybody needs to go to college. If it became that nobody could afford it because they are too poor, the prices would have to go down or the schools would have to close.

When it comes to the greed from the top. That is already happening. The idea is that if nobody could afford a service or an item, the price would have to go down. Therefore, the rich man stops making his money. But now you have powerful corporations that fail, but the government props them up.

When it comes to the minimum wage, I can see that. But, if you don't like the wages, don't support those companies.

Yes and no in regards to education. You dont need to read it now, but

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/the-urban-legend-of-the-bennett-hypothesis-or-why-student-aid-is-not-driving-up-college-costs/2012/05/31/gJQAFvEX5U_blog.html

read that.

Health care: Medicare for all, Medicare works at much lower overheads and costs than private insurance. Also health care costs are skyrocketing, we need a different form other than private insurance if we EVER expect to get this working. Or as Ron Paul would argue, we have to let people die on the street. I don't really like that option.

Don't support those companies? Poverty is a trap and saying that there is a lot of choice in day to day life, is a cop out for people who make a decent living already and have choices which others do not have.

You got some libertarian ideals right now, but I challenge you to shop only at places that pay their workers a living wage, strong benefits, and do not have environmental/economically destructive business practices. If you think about it, its probably nearly impossible. Libertarianism sounds great, but it will be the end to the middle class and our environment as we know it.

louie.miragsReduced cost is the big on for me. A true free market would have to adapt to what people should be paid and adapt to what items and services should cost. Getting the government involved in education for example made college so fucking expensive. Same for healthcare.

Also, it seems so much government assistance makes people less ambitious. Why try to better my life if I could just get assistance? I do know that some people do really need it. But since I spend 40 hours a week earning a living I hate the fact a small percentage of the population is taking advantage of government assistance. I want to be for equal access for healthcare, education, food etc. But a part of me wants to say that people should go out and earn their own living. I am torn and now leaning toward getting the government more out of our lives. Democrats tend to want more government involvement when they want a change. And so many times that just ruins it and makes it more expensive.

If you were to introduce a totally free market economy to the US, it would eat itself alive. Such businesses/corporations have already shown that they will do whatever it is that they can get away with and have no qualms about destroying people, jobs, and the environment in the process. A free economy exists in the same place as Marx's communism- in a book.

Government assistance for education is proven to be free in other democratic socialisms throughout Europe, so I do not see a necessary connection at all between government assistance for education and making college more expensive. If anything, it just becomes harder for the average kid to buy his/her way in. You only get it in if you test well enough.

You will always have a small percentage of the population taking advantage of the system. You have that now with rich corporations taking advantage of it from one angle, as well as poor people taking advantage of it from another angle. That small percentage won't go away, but the larger percentage of people actually trying to improve their life will be there. This is also shown to be possible, with the right system and right execution of that system in place. Put a half-assed system in place and execute it poorly and you end up with shit.

onenerdykidIf you were to introduce a totally free market economy to the US, it would eat itself alive.

I do not have time to respond to both comments yet. I just want to say that right now we have plenty of socialist type policies and we are eating ourselves alive. How would adding more government involvement fix anything?

louie.miragsI do not have time to respond to both comments yet. I just want to say that right now we have plenty of socialist type policies and we are eating ourselves alive. How would adding more government involvement fix anything?

We have plenty of free market policies and we are also eating ourselves alive? I would argue that these socialist Esq policies are not what are causing these issues, rather other policy decisions unrelated to socialistic principles.

louie.miragsI do not have time to respond to both comments yet. I just want to say that right now we have plenty of socialist type policies and we are eating ourselves alive. How would adding more government involvement fix anything?

Tax code. Greedy Rich people are eating everyone alive. 50% of the country is just trying to stay alove

ndyeWe have plenty of free market policies and we are also eating ourselves alive? I would argue that these socialist Esq policies are not what are causing these issues, rather other policy decisions unrelated to socialistic principles.

From what I see, for example, obamacare was put in place by politicians who get funded by insurance companies. It does not give equal healthcare to all. It makes it mandatory for people to get insurance or the government will fine them. And we aren't a free market at all because our government steps in and props up major corporations instead of letting them fail.

ndyeYes and no in regards to education. You dont need to read it now, but

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/post/the-urban-legend-of-the-bennett-hypothesis-or-why-student-aid-is-not-driving-up-college-costs/2012/05/31/gJQAFvEX5U_blog.html

read that.

Health care: Medicare for all, Medicare works at much lower overheads and costs than private insurance. Also health care costs are skyrocketing, we need a different form other than private insurance if we EVER expect to get this working. Or as Ron Paul would argue, we have to let people die on the street. I don't really like that option.

Don't support those companies? Poverty is a trap and saying that there is a lot of choice in day to day life, is a cop out for people who make a decent living already and have choices which others do not have.

You got some libertarian ideals right now, but I challenge you to shop only at places that pay their workers a living wage, strong benefits, and do not have environmental/economically destructive business practices. If you think about it, its probably nearly impossible. Libertarianism sounds great, but it will be the end to the middle class and our environment as we know it.

Here is another take on the Bennett Hypothesis- http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/07/21/the-bennett-hypothesis-confirmed-again/

You are going to find both sides of the argument with this Hypothesis. The man who created himself reworded it as such that tuition is going to increase, but the presence of the government will increase it at a higher rate.

As an Economics major you should know that there is no pricing mechanism in regards to college tuition and that is creating issues.

louie.miragsFrom what I see, for example, obamacare was put in place by politicians who get funded by insurance companies. It does not give equal healthcare to all. It makes it mandatory for people to get insurance or the government will fine them. And we aren't a free market at all because our government steps in and props up major corporations instead of letting them fail.

But we still have so many people who refuse to break up these big banks, who was the senator who has consistently said we need to break up these banks? Too big to fail, too big to exist.

Thats an oversimplification of obamacare, but obamacare is certainly not universal health care. It does offer subsidized public options for the poor and anyone who argues against it, is simply wrong. Universal healthcare is better though still.

louie.miragsI do not have time to respond to both comments yet. I just want to say that right now we have plenty of socialist type policies and we are eating ourselves alive. How would adding more government involvement fix anything?

We have a lot of half-baked polices that have been adjusted and watered down in order get them passed by the majority.

If you add more of the right kind of government, then it will fix a lot. But simply adding more crap to the shit storm will only make it worse.

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.MASSHOLE.Here is another take on the Bennett Hypothesis- http://www.forbes.com/sites/ccap/2015/07/21/the-bennett-hypothesis-confirmed-again/

You are going to find both sides of the argument with this Hypothesis. The man who created himself reworded it as such that tuition is going to increase, but the presence of the government will increase it at a higher rate.

As an Economics major you should know that there is no pricing mechanism in regards to college tuition and that is creating issues.

What I would argue here, is that the article I linked said that there is evidence on both sides, and the forbes article clearly has an agenda and a push to it.

SFBv420.0bro are you really gonna spend your whole summer trying to e-suck a ninety year old poli cock to get hard e nough for him or much anyone else
to give fucks?
vibes to you and the rest of the entitlist can't do it on their owners.

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ndyeWhat I would argue here, is that the article I linked said that there is evidence on both sides, and the forbes article clearly has an agenda and a push to it.

I have a hard time believing an article whose headline is basically is stating the Bennett Hypothesis is wrong is an impartial article.

My point is that you can and will find both sides of the story in the news or scholarly articles. It all depends, as you have stated, who is writing, funding, and publishing the articles.

As an Economics major you should realize however that the lack of a pricing mechanism in the college tuition arena is an issue and that it certainly is one of the reasons costs have skyrocketed over the past 30 years.

onenerdykidWe have a lot of half-baked polices that have been adjusted and watered down in order get them passed by the majority.

If you add more of the right kind of government, then it will fix a lot. But simply adding more crap to the shit storm will only make it worse.

The problem with adding the right government is that our system is flawed. Politicians are more swayed by money than the people. The two major political parties get funded from the same corporations. Greed has it that politicians push for policies that will help them or help the people who are funding them.

Like I was saying, up until a few months ago I would have considered myself more democratic. But the more fuckery I see in the government, the further I stray from that party. I want to be that make it so everybody has a fair chance. But time and time again new policies are put in place by the people who are going to benefit the most.

louie.miragsThe problem with adding the right government is that our system is flawed. Politicians are more swayed by money than the people. The two major political parties get funded from the same corporations. Greed has it that politicians push for policies that will help them or help the people who are funding them.

Like I was saying, up until a few months ago I would have considered myself more democratic. But the more fuckery I see in the government, the further I stray from that party. I want to be that make it so everybody has a fair chance. But time and time again new policies are put in place by the people who are going to benefit the most.

You're totally right, and while I am no fan of any politician and I wouldn't trust any of them farther than I could throw them, the politicians who are the most obvious about sucking the soul from everything are on the right. That side has undoubtedly more crazies associated with it, and as such I vote on the other side. I don't think the democrats have it right (by a long shot), but IMO they are going to be less of a complete disaster.

"For of the extremes one is more erroneous, one less so; therefore, since to hit the mean is hard in the extreme, we must as a second best, as people say, take the least of the evils." -Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics (1109b1)

.MASSHOLE.I have a hard time believing an article whose headline is basically is stating the Bennett Hypothesis is wrong is an impartial article.

My point is that you can and will find both sides of the story in the news or scholarly articles. It all depends, as you have stated, who is writing, funding, and publishing the articles.

As an Economics major you should realize however that the lack of a pricing mechanism in the college tuition arena is an issue and that it certainly is one of the reasons costs have skyrocketed over the past 30 years.

haha thats true, the issue is, that jobs which pay well, essentially require a college degree if you don't want to go to trade school. When something is required, the costs inflate aggressively. Supply and demand are great, but when it comes to something that is essentially a necessity, it clearly favors those with money vs those without.

Being rich should be an advantage for the quality of your vacations, homes, goods etc, but it should not be an advantage for health or education. IMO

louie.miragsThe problem with adding the right government is that our system is flawed. Politicians are more swayed by money than the people. The two major political parties get funded from the same corporations. Greed has it that politicians push for policies that will help them or help the people who are funding them.

If thats your issue than how the fuck would you not vote for Bernie Sanders. Like seriously?

onenerdykidYou're totally right, and while I am no fan of any politician and I wouldn't trust any of them farther than I could throw them, the politicians who are the most obvious about sucking the soul from everything are on the right. That side has undoubtedly more crazies associated with it, and as such I vote on the other side. I don't think the democrats have it right (by a long shot), but IMO they are going to be less of a complete disaster.

"For of the extremes one is more erroneous, one less so; therefore, since to hit the mean is hard in the extreme, we must as a second best, as people say, take the least of the evils." -Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics (1109b1)

Agreed, man.

ndyeIf thats your issue than how the fuck would you not vote for Bernie Sanders. Like seriously?

i'm torn.. Similar to what nerdy kid said because I want to vote for him but I am afraid of an Obama type scenario when he is promising hope and change but in reality he plays the game the same as the rest of them...

louie.miragsAgreed, man.



i'm torn.. Similar to what nerdy kid said because I want to vote for him but I am afraid of an Obama type scenario when he is promising hope and change but in reality he plays the game the same as the rest of them...

I think Bernie has been screaming about these issues for a long time, I do not expect him to stop. And in regard to money in politics:

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00000528

http://www.ranker.com/list/the-largest-barack-obama-campaign-contributors-_2012_/pilgrimsprogressive

I dont trust a lot of politicians, but I can say without doubt that Bernie has the LEAST malicious policies compared to everyone else.

A couple dozen catchy Facebook posts and you sheep think he is a saint in American Politics. Every idiot loved Govenor Jimmy Carter too, then they met Presodent Jimmy Carter.

Proposing a bunch of bills no one votes for does not make a good leader or even a good politician.

BERNIE 2016! HANSOUTS FOR EVERYONE!

cobra_commanderProposing a bunch of bills no one votes for does not make a good leader or even a good politician.

If he proposes a bunch of bills and doesn't get support, it doesn't necessarily follow that he has bad ideas or is a bad leader or is a bad politician. But it should bring up questions about the quality of the government not supporting his bills.

If he makes it to being president, we will see how different he is at being president. But given his track record of near impeccable consistency, I don't think you'll see him change his opinion on anything anytime soon.

cobra_commanderHANSOUTS FOR EVERYONE!

I want a HANSOUT!!!!!

You are regurgitating the talking points of your conservative trickle down economics idea. How do you not realize that trickle down economics work for those at the top, and DO NOT WORK for the middle class and low wage workers. That bewilders me.

cobra_commanderA couple dozen catchy Facebook posts and you sheep think he is a saint in American Politics. Every idiot loved Govenor Jimmy Carter too, then they met Presodent Jimmy Carter.

Proposing a bunch of bills no one votes for does not make a good leader or even a good politician.

BERNIE 2016! HANSOUTS FOR EVERYONE!

yup we're all sheep and you have all the answers. Sounds legit. Go away.

BERNIE 2016!!!!

http://theweek.com/speedreads/568208/bernie-sanders-wants-mandate-15-minimum-wage--but-only-pays-interns-12

cobra_commanderBERNIE 2016!!!!

http://theweek.com/speedreads/568208/bernie-sanders-wants-mandate-15-minimum-wage--but-only-pays-interns-12

NEWS FLASH: interns are not necessarily required to get minimum wage

http://www.paywizard.org/main/salary/minimum-wage/internships

That he's paying them $12/hour is probably quite good in the intern world, especially if they are only students there for credit, which is a strong probability.

cobra_commanderBERNIE 2016!!!!

http://theweek.com/speedreads/568208/bernie-sanders-wants-mandate-15-minimum-wage--but-only-pays-interns-12

You don't even have to be paid as an intern. You become an intern to get credits and such for college, your resume, etc,etc. Not to make money. So the fact he is paying them shows something. But yeah lets elect another politican who is a puppet of the corporation. Not one presidential candidate besides Bernie represents the people. No other presidential candidate supported removing lobbying from politics.

Whether you agree with Bernie or not is beside the point. But if you can't admit to yourself that Bernie is the most honest candidate then you're living in a bubble of ignorance.

S.J.WYou don't even have to be paid as an intern. You become an intern to get credits and such for college, your resume, etc,etc. Not to make money. So the fact he is paying them shows something. But yeah lets elect another politican who is a puppet of the corporation. Not one presidential candidate besides Bernie represents the people. No other presidential candidate supported removing lobbying from politics.

Whether you agree with Bernie or not is beside the point. But if you can't admit to yourself that Bernie is the most honest candidate then you're living in a bubble of ignorance.

Don't you live in Australia or something? Anyway, have you heard or Rand Paul? I think he's just as "honest" and speaks "for the people" as Bernie, if not more. And yes the interns don't have to get paid, but don't you think it's a little strange that he's not rewarding the people that are most likely in college and trying to better themselves and get a good job yet he is trying to reward McDonald's workers? If he really thinks that $15/hour is the minimum "livable" wage then he should be paying that to anyone who works for him regardless of what their job title is.

Also the fact that some interns are not paid is pretty much slave labor, but that's for a different day.

Kooky_LukeyDon't you live in Australia or something? Anyway, have you heard or Rand Paul? I think he's just as "honest" and speaks "for the people" as Bernie, if not more. And yes the interns don't have to get paid, but don't you think it's a little strange that he's not rewarding the people that are most likely in college and trying to better themselves and get a good job yet he is trying to reward McDonald's workers? If he really thinks that $15/hour is the minimum "livable" wage then he should be paying that to anyone who works for him regardless of what their job title is.

Also the fact that some interns are not paid is pretty much slave labor, but that's for a different day.

Yes I am Australian. And I'm interested in the US ellection like I'm interested in any political election that affects me in Australia.

As for Rand Paul. Yeah he's honest, and I was impressed at how he stated he was against gay marriage but didn't allow his personal view to affect the matter. And he seems like a very smart guy.Again I was impressed at how he stated at that the CIA created IS. As well Rand Paul does represent a very large percentage of the unspoken libeterian vote. But at the same time I don't agree with him on a flat tax, removing the department of education, abortion and removing anti discrimination laws. But I will give him props for being honest. There does need to be more air time of Rand. He is the only GOP candidate I wouldn't care if got elected.

S.J.WYes I am Australian. And I'm interested in the US ellection like I'm interested in any political election that affects me in Australia.

As for Rand Paul. Yeah he's honest, and I was impressed at how he stated he was against gay marriage but didn't allow his personal view to affect the matter. And he seems like a very smart guy.Again I was impressed at how he stated at that the CIA created IS. As well Rand Paul does represent a very large percentage of the unspoken libeterian vote. But at the same time I don't agree with him on a flat tax, removing the department of education, abortion and removing anti discrimination laws. But I will give him props for being honest. There does need to be more air time of Rand. He is the only GOP candidate I wouldn't care if got elected.

Yeah see I agree with Bernie on some things, but other things I severely disagree with him, but for the most part besides the gay marriage thing I agree with Rand on pretty much everything else. However, I was really just pointing out that Rand also speaks for the people and Bernie isn't the only one. You may not like the flat tax, but no family will be taxed for their first $50,000 of income and I think that will help a lot.

Kooky_LukeyYeah see I agree with Bernie on some things, but other things I severely disagree with him, but for the most part besides the gay marriage thing I agree with Rand on pretty much everything else. However, I was really just pointing out that Rand also speaks for the people and Bernie isn't the only one. You may not like the flat tax, but no family will be taxed for their first $50,000 of income and I think that will help a lot.

It blows my mind that people think that a flat tax is a good idea, the 50,000 dollars is progress, but not a lot of progress. The family of four thing is a little weird to me, mandated children? Quite peculiar. It would greatly decrease the tax burden on the richest people in the country, and would increase the burden on most middle income families. We would also see a sharp decline in overall revenue.

It blows me away that these same people who say "universal healthcare wont work because the countries that do it are so much smaller and differnt" but than go and say "Estonia has a flat tax, look how well they are doing" I mean fucking Estonia? You have got to be kidding me.

S.J.WYes I am Australian. And I'm interested in the US ellection like I'm interested in any political election that affects me in Australia.

As for Rand Paul. Yeah he's honest, and I was impressed at how he stated he was against gay marriage but didn't allow his personal view to affect the matter. And he seems like a very smart guy.Again I was impressed at how he stated at that the CIA created IS. As well Rand Paul does represent a very large percentage of the unspoken libeterian vote. But at the same time I don't agree with him on a flat tax, removing the department of education, abortion and removing anti discrimination laws. But I will give him props for being honest. There does need to be more air time of Rand. He is the only GOP candidate I wouldn't care if got elected.

Washington (CNN)
Bernie Sanders said Sunday he sees racial injustice as a major problem, just one week after arguing on stage with "Black Lives Matter" protesters at a liberal gathering.
In an appearance on NBC's "Meet the Press," the Democratic presidential contender continued to cast the challenges minorities face as primarily economic.

"I'm not dismissive," he said. "I've been involved in the civil rights movement all of my life, and I believe that we have to deal with this issue of institutional racism."

Sanders, a Vermont senator, pointed to Martin Luther King, Jr., saying the civil rights leader "understood and was working on a poor people's march" when he was assassinated. He pointed to soaring unemployment figures for young African-Americans, and blamed an "unsustainable level of income and wealth inequality."

His comments came after Sanders shouted down "Black Lives Matter" protesters who disrupted his remarks at the Netroots Nation gathering in Phoenix. Sanders said he doesn't disagree with their message, but was irritated with being interrupted.

Reaching minority voters is a key hurdle for Sanders to cross if he is to mount any type of significant challenge to Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary. Sanders has fared much better in recent polls among white, liberal, college-educated voters than he has with the rest of the Democratic electorate.

Sanders also defended his views on gun rights, saying he supports laws that mandate background checks for gun buyers and would ban the sales of some guns, despite hailing from a rural state with few gun control laws.

Asked about why laws already on the books haven't stopped mentally unstable Americans from obtaining firearms, Sanders said: "Then we've got to make them stronger and we've got to make them more enforceable, that's what we've got to do."

Throughout the interview with NBC's Chuck Todd, though, Sanders continued to pivot to the issue on which he is most comfortable: economic inequality.

"We are having working people who are saying that it is absurd that almost all new income and all new wealth is going to the top 1%," he said.

ndyeIt blows my mind that people think that a flat tax is a good idea, the 50,000 dollars is progress, but not a lot of progress. The family of four thing is a little weird to me, mandated children? Quite peculiar. It would greatly decrease the tax burden on the richest people in the country, and would increase the burden on most middle income families. We would also see a sharp decline in overall revenue.

It blows me away that these same people who say "universal healthcare wont work because the countries that do it are so much smaller and different" but than go and say "Estonia has a flat tax, look how well they are doing" I mean fucking Estonia? You have got to be kidding me.

I never said it was a bullet proof plan, but I think it has room to grow and is a step in the right direction. A lot of the richest people and companies have loop holes that get them out of most of their taxes so I think that this cut down on that somewhat.

Kooky_LukeyI never said it was a bullet proof plan, but I think it has room to grow and is a step in the right direction. A lot of the richest people and companies have loop holes that get them out of most of their taxes so I think that this cut down on that somewhat.

Somewhat, by making the top earners and corporations pay one of the lowest tax rates in the developed world and charging middle income Americans essentially the same rate. This is also lower than the effective tax rate paid by top income earners so it's just another tax break for the wealthy. Who picks it up? Everyone else

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/777185/Bernie-Sanders--The-Vox-conversation

An amazing interview.