Overpopulation

theabortionatorFor sure. Most Americans are christians but the ones that take it word for word literally. I grew up in that type of church.

I mean you have Noah, a guy that god told to build a huge boat so he could kill everyone else with a big flood and then noah and his family could inbreed the earth again. If he could have somehow built that boat, and magically gotten all species from all continents(because no evolution) and somehow didn't get eaten by lions or anything, it still doesn't work.

Jonah. Dude disobeys God so God sends a huge storm, Jonah jumps off the boat and get's swallowed by a big fish and spit out 3 days later where he was originally supposed to have gone.

It's not so hard to believe if you've heard it since you were months old, been taught it before you could read, and had it repeatedly drilled in/you're going to go to hell if you ask questions. But as soon as you look at things even a little objectively the literal belief if not the whole belief crumbles pretty quickly.

californiagrownthe simple answer to that is: god is all powerful, he controls everything. his acts are not possible within the realm of science because god exists outside that realm. he created all scientific laws and can therefore bend them as much as he likes.

There is so much stuff in this world that is unbelievable. We could talk about the impossible odds of so many events in the worlds history but we (atleast I) would end up sounding like a teenage who got stoned for the first time.

the overpopulation issue is being caused by birthrates not reflecting advancement in healthcare- especially for newborns. give it a few decades and the developing worl will start to realize that provideding for a family of 4 requires a helluva lot less money than a family of 8.

selfiejesusits not a hardship at all, and i'm not on my own. i work hard to support my recreation and my health, we all chip in.

chickenwe could feed the entire world if we weren't using all of our grain for ethanol and livestock.

chickenwe could feed the entire world if we weren't using all of our grain for ethanol and livestock.

californiagrownhahahahahahaha. the view from outside your bubble says otherwise haha.


regardless, you would still be a white male from a well-to-do family in america. if you cannot understand how lucky you are to be born into that situation and the inherent advantages you have been given through no merit of your own then you are a waste of oxygen.

californiagrownPicture of selfiejesus as of 5 miutes ago...

Granite_StateThe earths carrying capacity is around 4 billion.

theabortionatorI still really like the idea of clusterfuck zones or continents. And the people there can have all the kids they want.

No money no rubbers no problems! Here in clusterfuckville you can fuck all day and let yo babies run rampant because nobody gives a fuck!

Let the rest of the people have some peace. Would be cool if there was even a section in each continent that was designated as semi wild. Where only a certain amount of people could live, little development.

I just don't want to live on a giant spinning clusterfuck because a bunch of morons can't use a coat hanger, keep their naughty parts from doing the devils handiwork, or dive off a bridge.

I like seeing the beautiful landscape of the earth more than you, your ugly fucking family, and all the ugly bullshit stores, parking lots, and whatever else it takes to sustain you, your ugly family, and your ugly fucking friends. Nobody likes you. Go back to clusterfuckville you fucking fuck fucker.

chickenwe could feed the entire world if we weren't using all of our grain for ethanol and livestock.

chickenwe could feed the entire world if we weren't using all of our grain for ethanol and livestock.

ButteryLlamaCorn used for ethanol is genetically modified to produce ethanol. Same thing with livestock.

theabortionatorI still really like the idea of clusterfuck zones or continents. And the people there can have all the kids they want.

No money no rubbers no problems! Here in clusterfuckville you can fuck all day and let yo babies run rampant because nobody gives a fuck!

SFBso basically first world countries and third world ones.

theabortionatorNot really at all

SFBclusterfuck zones where people can have all the kids they want? sounds like a third world country to me. i like your idea though! we need to keep the unwashed hordes out of our country amirite?

S.J.Walso sounds like the majority of christian America

SFBreally? large cities have the highest liberal non-christian population and are the most overpopulated and dirty.

agnarskiwe use livestock to make ethanol?

theabortionatormmmkay

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DlCKYa sorry starving people wouldnt last very long on sugar cane and corn.

ButteryLlamaCorn used for ethanol is genetically modified to produce ethanol. Same thing with livestock. Its called No. 2 yellow field corn. Not for human consumption...

LonelyNo. He's saying that neither corn for livestock, or for ethanol is for human consumption.

S.J.Wwell yeah more people are in cities because more jobs are in the cities.

SFBWHOOOAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

S.J.Wlololol, standard SFB, attempts to win a discussion, loses and then patronizes.

SFBuh ok, if you want to think you won sure. you really made a moot point and then pointed out something blatantly obvious. your sever retardedness never ceases to amaze me.

S.J.Wwell you made a dumb point that cities have more population in reference to having kids to which I pointed out christian families have more kids and you call that a moot point and call me retarded. Lol, you're slipping SFB, get back to trolling and don't try to actually have discussions.

S.J.Wwell you made a dumb point that cities have more population in reference to having kids to which I pointed out christian families have more kids and you call that a moot point and call me retarded. Lol, you're slipping SFB, get back to trolling and don't try to actually have discussions.

DobberMy asshole hmong neighbors aren't helping at all. 13 kids is not ok.

There should be a limit on the amount of kids that a couple can have. 4 tops. I don't see how that would be a problem. I have already decided to not have kids.

dbchilihow about 2 max? that would make much more sense if we'd like to stop worry about overpopulation

LonelyThe number is creeping closer to 1billion undernourished people globally. Along with environmental issues, what does our population look like in the future? At our rate of growth (different organization calculate differently) we may reach 9 billion by 2050. What does that mean for 1.Earth 2.Economics 3. People? Will the earth naturally level itself off by created a global scale disaster?

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SalmonellaFunYou know as well as I do that the earth will reach its carrying capacity in the next 100 years or so. When this happens, I'll be glad to not be around because it will be followed by a small period where we have too many people and not enough resources because people continued to reproduce. After a while though, people will begin to only have children that they can support and it will level off around a pleasant 10 billion

VinnieFyeah he's actually correct.

If all the land currently used for the production of ethanol, for feeding livestock, and for raising livestock was instead used for the direct production of human food (ie veggies and shit), then there would no doubt be more than enough food to sustain the worlds population. Of course distribution would still be an issue.

Somewhere around 1/3 of the worlds arable land is used to feed livestock and as you learn in any basic ecology class you keep about 1/10th of the energy as you move up a trophic level.

Also livestock are one of the larger greenhouse gas emitters in the world, so switching to a plant based diet also has other benefits.


But I love steak. I'm just a filthy hypocrite. Granted I try not to eat as much meat as I could be (cheaper too).

Granite_StateI mean there is no definite number but I did recall reading that many scientists believe it is between 4-6 billion people. "When a species lives within its carrying capacity, it does not degrade the resources on which it depends. While degrading our resources (e.g. through topsoil erosion and the pumping of underground water for irrigation faster than its renewed) we produce enough food globally to feed our population of 6.6 billion, but an estimated 600-800 million people are undernourished"

https://books.google.com/books?id=xBGffKNfsq8C&pg=PA29&lpg=PA29&dq=world%27s+carrying+capacity+4+billion&source=bl&ots=5JsGacFRMW&sig=7mO6WcP3UrPTiB-9kUYoFYUv40g&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ln1oVfmoHqTHsQSvnoCIDQ&ved=0CGIQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=world's%20carrying%20capacity%204%20billion&f=false

Fact of the matter is we are degrading natural resources at an exponential rate, so be definition we are already over our carrying capacity.

"However, consider that there is only 12 million square miles (7.68 billion acres) of arable land on the planet.
And, ignore for a moment that arable land is being lost at a rate of 38,610 square miles per year.
That is, lets assume no arable land is being lost for the next 33 years. Then . . .

In 2006, there was 1.15 acres of arable land per person, world-wide (i.e. 7.68 billion acres / 6.68 billion people).
By 2039, there may be only 0.59 acres of arable land per person, world-wide (i.e. 7.68 billion acres / 13 billion people)."

http://one-simple-idea.com/Environment1.htm

If it takes 1 acre of arable land to sustain 1 human, and if we factor in the fact that we are already past 7 billion, than just by the numbers we are at if not over carrying capacity.

Of course technology will increase our production of food, but with a expanding population and shrinking arable land area we will soon be limited to how much we can produce.

And thats not even factoring diseases such as blight and its effect on crops. Ever watch Interstellar? That's where we are actually heading. By reducing the variety of crops we grow we are making them more susceptible to diseases that could wipe out the whole species of crop.




Lol 10 billion if every human were to become vegetarian and we devoted the entirety of earths 3.5 billion acres of arable land to growing grains strictly for humans. In reality that much grain would only feed 2.5 billion omnivores considering how much has to go to feeding livestock. Now if everyone lived like Americans the earths carrying capacity would only be 2.2 billion (3.3x the substance level of food, 250x sustenance level of water)