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theBearJew
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Has anyone heard of this? http://www.womenon20s.org/


Apparently there is a movement to get a womans face on the 20 dollar bill.

They had a bunch of candidates and the final 4 were HARRIET TUBMAN, ELEANOR ROOSEVELT, ROSA PARKS, and WILMA MANKILLER.

Harriet Tubman edged out Eleanor Roosevelt by just over 7,000 votes. Tubman receiving 118,000 votes. 609,000 people voted in total for this. Legislation is being presented to get action done. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/21/gutierrez-woman-20-dollar_n_7112478.html

I guess nobody remembered Sacagewea.

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May 13 2015 8:27AM
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S.J.W
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It's like one of those things no one would ever care about until one person brings it up. That being said, it's pretty rad to see woman in history being noticed more
May 13 2015 8:29AM
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theBearJew
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I feel like Harriet Tubman isn't a good winner. Susan B. Anthony seems like a better candidate.


Only 0.2% of the American population voted in this poll.
May 13 2015 8:35AM
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LiquorLanch
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I like that this is a thing, but I think Andrew Jackson on the 20 is good. He's a fucking badass regardless of what people think of him...

We could do a variety of bills or switch the people on them every four to eight years..
May 13 2015 8:38AM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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i have no problem with it. as soon as there is a woman in history who is more badass than the men currently on the bills, we can go ahead and slap her on there.
May 13 2015 8:55AM
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Dobber
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If it isn't broken, don't fix it. Damn feminists.

Women never hold doors open for men as we are expected to hold them open for them... "Lets start a motherfucking movement".
May 13 2015 8:57AM
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S.J.W
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DobberIf it isn't broken, don't fix it. Damn feminists.

Women never hold doors open for men as we are expected to hold them open for them... "Lets start a motherfucking movement".


so you're going to compare the oppression of woman and the movement to them gaining social, political and economic rights to them not holding a fucking door for you?
May 13 2015 9:01AM
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Dobber
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S.J.Wso you're going to compare the oppression of woman and the movement to them gaining social, political and economic rights to them not holding a fucking door for you?


Yes sir you are correct.
May 13 2015 9:07AM
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.Hugo.
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This is the dumbest fucking thing feminists have done. And thats really saying something
May 13 2015 9:18AM
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987321654hgfd
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DobberIf it isn't broken, don't fix it.


This is how I feel.
May 13 2015 9:38AM
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Spagett+
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Like really? They couldn't even have better choices than that? I mean Harriet Tubman didn't really have that large of an impact on the US and she only freed like 300 slaves, which is cool don't get me wrong, but not 20 dollar bill cool. Also Come on Eleanor Roosevelt? the only reason she had any political and social impact was because of who she was married to. If we are going to put a woman on the 20 we need better choices.
May 13 2015 9:41AM
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Dobber
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Spagett+we need better choices.


Vote for Spagett
May 13 2015 9:43AM
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robbinJAHood
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DobberIf it isn't broken, don't fix it. Damn feminists.

Women never hold doors open for men as we are expected to hold them open for them... "Lets start a motherfucking movement".


I always hold doors open for anyone!!!

that being said this coin thing is stupid lol
May 13 2015 9:50AM
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theBearJew
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savvy_skiI always hold doors open for anyone!!!

that being said this coin thing is stupid lol


What coin thing? Sacagewea has already happened. Were talking about the $20 bill here.
May 13 2015 9:55AM
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corona
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There don't seem to be as many world famous women coming from Murca' than there are from other countries (excluding celebrities). But no one really comes to mind when you think of women like Marie Curie who had a global impact.
May 13 2015 9:59AM
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Abu_Hajaar
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Who fucking cares
May 13 2015 10:04AM
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no_steeze
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I don't see the point in changing current currency, but if they want to introduce new bills with women on them that's fine with me. I'm surprised people didn't vote for Kim Kardashian's ass. After all she's probably the woman most Americans care about most
May 13 2015 10:36AM
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Wampire
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Lol at those choices.

They r women, the don't go on money
May 13 2015 11:11AM
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GayWolf420
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Can we focus on increasing the value of our dollar instead of worrying about who is on it? or is that misogynistic and patriarchal or whatever. Its not gonna matter who is on the money if it doesn't have as much value as it really should.
May 13 2015 12:33PM
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theBearJew
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DeebieSkeebiesCan we focus on increasing the value of our dollar instead of worrying about who is on it? or is that misogynistic and patriarchal or whatever. Its not gonna matter who is on the money if it doesn't have as much value as it really should.


Hasnt the dollar gone up in value alot in the last few years? Which is great for us to travel abroad, but sucks for exporting. Nobody can afford our goods, but we can import for cheap. Domestic growth slows as a result. Dont want the dollar to be too strong.
May 13 2015 1:47PM
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dingus
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First woman are gonna be on the $20 bill whats next? Women driving? smh
May 13 2015 7:00PM
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SteezOnSkis12
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Literally just heard about this on the tv
May 13 2015 7:33PM
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Brocka_Flocka
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Jackson needs to get off the 20.
May 13 2015 8:06PM
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stinky_cheese
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i know she's not a canidate, but sarah palin would make a dank 20 dollar bill
May 13 2015 8:10PM
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Mingg
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theBearJewHas anyone heard of this? http://www.womenon20s.org/


Apparently there is a movement to get a womans face on the 20 dollar bill.

They had a bunch of candidates and the final 4 were HARRIET TUBMAN, ELEANOR ROOSEVELT, ROSA PARKS, and WILMA MANKILLER.

Harriet Tubman edged out Eleanor Roosevelt by just over 7,000 votes. Tubman receiving 118,000 votes. 609,000 people voted in total for this. Legislation is being presented to get action done. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/21/gutierrez-woman-20-dollar_n_7112478.html

I guess nobody remembered Sacagewea.



hahahahahahaha

This is a joke right? A poll consisting of ONLY women for the spot on the 20 dollar bill. I thought feminism was about equality. There is nothing equal in saying that there can only be a woman on the 20 dollar bill.

This is just saying "we're women and we've been repressed so you HAVE to put us on a piece of currency because we deserve it." Not saying these women didn't do extraordinary things... but what did they do that was so significantly better than both other women and men that they deserve to be on the 20 dollar bill?
May 13 2015 8:40PM
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JAHpow
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This is a dumb movement.

But can't we have some more patriotic choices like Betsy Ross or Molly Pitcher?
May 13 2015 11:21PM
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Spagett+
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cddlswthsqrrlshahahahahahaha

This is a joke right? A poll consisting of ONLY women for the spot on the 20 dollar bill. I thought feminism was about equality. There is nothing equal in saying that there can only be a woman on the 20 dollar bill.

This is just saying "we're women and we've been repressed so you HAVE to put us on a piece of currency because we deserve it." Not saying these women didn't do extraordinary things... but what did they do that was so significantly better than both other women and men that they deserve to be on the 20 dollar bill?


why did u quote the topic? I think it is implied that if you are responding to the thread than you are replying to the topic.
May 14 2015 1:03AM
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Mingg
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Spagett+why did u quote the topic? I think it is implied that if you are responding to the thread than you are replying to the topic.


yeah, i meant to condense it down to just the part about the candidates but I got distracted. my bad, I'm just a newb.
May 14 2015 1:09AM
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Spagett+
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cddlswthsqrrlsyeah, i meant to condense it down to just the part about the candidates but I got distracted. my bad, I'm just a newb.


May 14 2015 1:13AM
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.frenchy
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if it's not broken why fix it?
May 14 2015 2:17AM
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Filet-O-Fish
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Read this as "Women in 20s" and thought it was a thread about hot babes.

Much disappointment.
May 14 2015 8:48AM
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Stadtski
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Clara Barton would be ok she started the fricken red cross, but why not like Marilyn Monroe. she was easily the most iconic American woman ever. noone wants to look at harriett tubmans face when paying for pizza.
May 14 2015 10:46AM
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infertilepigeon
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I vote for tori black
May 14 2015 11:45AM
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Trace.
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I don't care who it is, but Andrew Jackson is a serious stain on the history of our presidents so I think anyone would be a viable replacement. To everyone saying "If It's not broke don't fix it" Go fuck yourself, that's the kind of thinking that holds back humanity. I mean does anyone honestly feel like our currency represents the broad array of people who have helped shape our country?
May 14 2015 12:04PM
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.frenchy
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Trace."If It's not broke don't fix it" Go fuck yourself, that's the kind of thinking that holds back humanity.





yes, because putting a girl on a bill will really do soooo much for humanity, totally.
May 14 2015 12:08PM
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Trace.
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.frenchyyes, because putting a girl on a bill will really do soooo much for humanity, totally.


Yeah you weren't the only one to say that. My hatred for that bullshit partisan deflection is not because it's some pressing issue to change who's represented on our money. Why take the time to be a contrarian, this is something that should have unequivocal support on both sides of the political spectrum. But for some reason people like you are too enmeshed in your ideology to even consider supporting something that seems liberal.
May 14 2015 12:31PM
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PacificRimJob
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Lol this thread OMG FEMANIZIS SUCK. THEY WANNA TAKE AWAY ANDREW JACKSON WHO WAS A PRESIDENT AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE DID! (only thing I can really think of is he won a battle in the war of 1812 and pushed for the indian removal act or something)

But seriously, it's a little silly to make a big deal over our money, but it does beg the question of if we should start circulating different faces on bills. Keep the original dudes on the money, but maybe add a few people... Marie Curie, Richard Feynman, MLK, Caesar Chavez, Bring back Susan B Anthony, Throw the Wright Bros. on there, maybe even Elvis or BB King or Jimi Hendrix and shit.

instead of state quarters, have state bills... each state gets a couple main dudes?

California gets Caesar Chavez and probably Reagan... Washington gets Jimi Hendrix and Mt. St. Helens... Alabama gets MLK and Helen Keller... Wyoming gets Travis Rice and Matthew Shepherd?
May 14 2015 12:50PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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DingoSeanLol this thread OMG FEMANIZIS SUCK. THEY WANNA TAKE AWAY ANDREW JACKSON WHO WAS A PRESIDENT AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE DID! (only thing I can really think of is he won a battle in the war of 1812 and pushed for the indian removal act or something)

But seriously, it's a little silly to make a big deal over our money, but it does beg the question of if we should start circulating different faces on bills. Keep the original dudes on the money, but maybe add a few people... Marie Curie, Richard Feynman, MLK, Caesar Chavez, Bring back Susan B Anthony, Throw the Wright Bros. on there, maybe even Elvis or BB King or Jimi Hendrix and shit.

instead of state quarters, have state bills... each state gets a couple main dudes?

California gets Caesar Chavez and probably Reagan... Washington gets Jimi Hendrix and Mt. St. Helens... Alabama gets MLK and Helen Keller... Wyoming gets Travis Rice and Matthew Shepherd?


first of all, AJ was the first and only president to ever pay off the entire national debt...which is a pretty solid accomplishment.

as to state bills, I think the problem that you have there is that it makes counterfeiting much easier/the prevention of more difficult. think of all of the problems we could potentially face if there were over 100+ different possibilities for $1 bills?
May 14 2015 1:06PM
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nosnowsnakes
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This movement seems misguided at best... possibly insulting. I'm confused why we would take a women who's legacy is partially rooted in resisting traditional American capitalism and slapping her face on the $20 bill while black women in America continue to make 64 cents on the dollar compared to the average white American male. Perhaps we should spend less time worrying about whose face is on the money and more time worrying about the gaping inequality between who has access to the money and who doesn't.
May 14 2015 1:10PM
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PacificRimJob
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Barefootin_Fiendfirst of all, AJ was the first and only president to ever pay off the entire national debt...which is a pretty solid accomplishment.

as to state bills, I think the problem that you have there is that it makes counterfeiting much easier/the prevention of more difficult. think of all of the problems we could potentially face if there were over 100+ different possibilities for $1 bills?


I mean, it also makes it pretty difficult, because you'd have to counterfeit a bunch of different bills. Imagine if someone came in with just a shitload of bills with the same guy on it? That would be suspicious as hell right? I believe it would make counterfeiting a lot more complicated.

Also, didn't he just pay it off by taking advantage of a massive real estate bubble during american expansion? (hence his approval of the indian removal act that freed up more land for people with money to buy from the government?) And didn't that bubble bursting lead to a massive fucking depression lol?
May 14 2015 1:17PM
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arnie_grape
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Barefootin_Fiendfirst of all, AJ was the first and only president to ever pay off the entire national debt...which is a pretty solid accomplishment.


no that's embarrassing. not an accomplishment
May 14 2015 1:19PM
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Trace.
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Barefootin_Fiendfirst of all, AJ was the first and only president to ever pay off the entire national debt...which is a pretty solid accomplishment.


While that is true, the ramifications of how Jackson did that are what some attribute to the panic of 1837. On top of being aggressively anti infrastructure for the sake of fucking his opponents over, his decentralized banking idea indirectly fucked over the nations economy because state banks were giving out unbacked money left and right.
May 14 2015 1:19PM
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Barefootin_Fiend
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DingoSeanI mean, it also makes it pretty difficult, because you'd have to counterfeit a bunch of different bills. Imagine if someone came in with just a shitload of bills with the same guy on it? That would be suspicious as hell right? I believe it would make counterfeiting a lot more complicated.

Also, didn't he just pay it off by taking advantage of a massive real estate bubble during american expansion? (hence his approval of the indian removal act that freed up more land for people with money to buy from the government?) And didn't that bubble bursting lead to a massive fucking depression lol?


Trace.While that is true, the ramifications of how Jackson did that are what some attribute to the panic of 1837. On top of being aggressively anti infrastructure for the sake of fucking his opponents over, his decentralized banking idea indirectly fucked over the nations economy because state banks were giving out unbacked money left and right.



details, details, guys.


and dingo - how in the hell would it make counterfeiting more complicated? if you have 100+ different options, people are a lot less likely no know all of the intricacies of each bill...especially people manning cash registers. what makes you think a counterfeiter would only counterfeit one bill? seriously, with today's computer/printing tech, it'd be a breeze to counterfeit multiple bills and spread them throughout real money.
May 14 2015 1:41PM
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PacificRimJob
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Barefootin_Fiendand dingo - how in the hell would it make counterfeiting more complicated? if you have 100+ different options, people are a lot less likely no know all of the intricacies of each bill...especially people manning cash registers. what makes you think a counterfeiter would only counterfeit one bill? seriously, with today's computer/printing tech, it'd be a breeze to counterfeit multiple bills and spread them throughout real money.


I mean, euro notes have a lot of different faces, and they are more difficult to counterfeit than American bills... they're far more modern with way more countermeasures involved to prove authenticity on the spot.

What you're talking about could be done even easier with a smaller series of different bills. It's not in how it looks, it's in what it's printed on and with what ink... You can copy a bill today all you want, but you need the right paper, the right ink, the right watermark, the right countermeasures involved in order to make it legit.

Hell, if you get a fuckload of metal and a press, you could effectively make a bazillion quarters and put coinstar out of business in a few weeks... or just play all the silent scope ii that you desire... but it would cost more to get all the metal involved to do it than it would be to make that happen. That's why counterfeiting is so hard today.
May 14 2015 2:34PM
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paige.
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The Canadian $50 bill used to feature an owl. Then it had a bunch of historically important women. Now it has a boat. Although I think it's important to recognize the impact women have made on our country, I can't say any of these changes has affected my life one way or another.
May 15 2015 12:18AM
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cobra_commander
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Maybe we if women had been contributing to our history a bit more they would be on some more currency...
May 15 2015 12:37AM
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PacificRimJob
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cobra_commanderMaybe we if women had been contributing to our history a bit more they would be on some more currency...


That's not a fair statement at all.
May 15 2015 4:38AM
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fresh_prince
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#freshprinceon20
May 15 2015 7:47AM
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cobra_commander
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cobra_commanderMaybe we if women had been contributing to our history a bit more they would be on some more currency...


DingoSeanThat's not a fair statement at all.


algebra - men
calculus - men
evolution - men
Vaccines - men
Ending slavery - men
invading Europe and defeating Nazis - men
Nuclear power - men
inventing and progressing the airplane - men
Going to the moon - men.
Guaranteed education - men
Habeas corpus - men
Constitutional Government - men
Representative government - men
Freedom of Religion - men
Freedom of Speech - men

bitching publicly for two centuries since they got that freedom of speach - women
May 15 2015 1:28PM
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[tk]
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Why would Rosa Parks even be in this? I mean she was pretty brave for following her orders, but they planned that months in advance so not too deserving of getting on a $20
May 15 2015 3:33PM
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PacificRimJob
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cobra_commanderalgebra - men
calculus - men
evolution - men
Vaccines - men
Ending slavery - men
invading Europe and defeating Nazis - men
Nuclear power - men
inventing and progressing the airplane - men
Going to the moon - men.
Guaranteed education - men
Habeas corpus - men
Constitutional Government - men
Representative government - men
Freedom of Religion - men
Freedom of Speech - men

bitching publicly for two centuries since they got that freedom of speach - women


Many of those things were pre-20th century, which has generally been the only time in history where women have been allowed to be out of the kitchen, so to speak... Hence, not really a fair statement.

I mean, rosalind franklin discovered DNA's double helix and pioneered xray research, marie curie's research into radioactivity and heavy elements is the only reason nuclear power and the manhattan project were able to happen when they did (basically saved us from a war on the japanese homeland), the only reason the allies won the war was the sheer amount of equipment sent into europe, and women played a massive and absolutely critical part in that situation. Many leading abolitionists were women, such as the grimke sisters..

Going to the Moon? fine, women were not really allowed to be involved with NASA... but only because the Soviets fell behind, otherwise Tereshkova was slated to be going up with Gagarin if they figured out how to make the N1 work... Otherwise we wouldn't have had to wait like a million years till Sally Ride...

Most of what you list, had some sort of influence or research included that was pioneered by or involved women.. Whether they got credit for it or not doesn't really change the fact.
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