What is something massively outdated that humans have yet to upgrade?

MACAQUEYou have to get dishes to 160+ degrees Fahrenheit to actually sanitize them. Soap doesn't do shit in terms of actually sterilizing dishes. Have fun hand-washing dishes in 160 degree water.

you're paranoid as fuck if you think you need to sterilize dishes. Soap + water is the best and with even the least amount of competence once can clean a plate covered in raw chicken adequately with dish soap in about 10 seconds. its really not hard.

DeebieSkeebiesI agree that hand washing isn't hard, but dishwashing machines do a waaay better job of really cleaning dishes and making them safe to eat from. Handwashing is really only half of the cleaning process of dishes, machines help disinfect them and makes them way safer to eat from so you aren't pissing from your colon the next day.

If they are way better, then why are we debating this in a thread about outdated shit? The whole dishwasher thing was brought up because they don't clean dirty dishes well enough.

I have never pissed out my ass from handwashing dishes.

VinnieFyou're paranoid as fuck if you think you need to sterilize dishes. Soap + water is the best and with even the least amount of competence once can clean a plate covered in raw chicken adequately with dish soap in about 10 seconds. its really not hard.

LemuelIf they are way better, then why are we debating this in a thread about outdated shit? The whole dishwasher thing was brought up because they don't clean dirty dishes well enough.

I have never pissed out my ass from handwashing dishes.

I live in a house with 4 other people, most of whom do not wash their own dishes. Dishwashers are a convenience & if you rinse plates and shit beforehand, they do a better job. I'm not hand-washing every fork and knife, nor am I going to scrub other people's plates. Also, I cook for the week on Sunday and my food sits in tupperware for the week. hand-washing the tupperware does not suffice and there is oftentimes residue from the food leftover (I cook with a lot of coconut/olive oil). It's not that hard to hand-wash, but I like the safety, convenience, and volume of a dishwasher.

Seriously guys, I know it's summer, but really?

Anyway, to weigh in.

Dishwashers are used in commercial establishments because the turnaround is so quick. A plate can come off the table, be washed by hand then machine, dried and back on the table in less than three minutes, I know this because I've covered for dish-washers. If you only wash the dishes by hand you will not get high enough temperatures to kill any bacteria, although it is extremely unlikely that bacteria are present on the plates. The dishwashers handle this.

At home things are different. You use a plate, wash it, then put it away for at least a few hours before using it again. When you hand wash the plate you will, unless you're incompetent*, remove all the remaining food from the plate. Detergent helps here, but it rarely has antibacterial effect. Now what you're doing here removing the energy source from bacteria. Yes, germs need food to grow, and by cleaning the plate you've removed it. This is why rice is so bad for food-poisoning: it's got the perfect mix of nutrients and short-chain carbs, it's pretty much a petri dish. Once you've removed the food by washing the bacteria can't grow, so their numbers can't grow to a point of causing problems. Then you leave the plate for a while, so the bacteria die. Therefore, hand washed plates are safe to eat from.

This is also why you should wash plates as soon as you've finished eating off them, so that bacteria populations can't build up.



*if you're actually this incompetent I hope you catch a particularly nasty strain of e-coli and die, for the sake of the gene pool.

Definitely Ski Boots. They're such a drag.

Only thing I envy of snowboarders ...

Boston Public Transportation

ski.loonBoston Public Transportation

holy shit yes

GeonerdDefinitely Ski Boots. They're such a drag.

Only thing I envy of snowboarders ...

Go to a bootfitter.

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We still haven't managed to entirely erase Dolan from the site, that could use some work.

The newschoolers member of the month voting system...oh wait

LemuelGo to a bootfitter.

thats not the answer for everyone. Some peoples feet are just too far gone and "not painful" is the best you can hope for.

VinnieFyou're paranoid as fuck if you think you need to sterilize dishes. Soap + water is the best and with even the least amount of competence once can clean a plate covered in raw chicken adequately with dish soap in about 10 seconds. its really not hard.

I wouldn't use just soap and water on anything touching raw chicken. You really should use bleach after raw chicken or some other disinfectant. Have fun getting salmonella.

daOysterI wouldn't use just soap and water on anything touching raw chicken. You really should use bleach after raw chicken or some other disinfectant. Have fun getting salmonella.

Lol. How do you suggest disenfecting s wood cutting board?

daOysterI wouldn't use just soap and water on anything touching raw chicken. You really should use bleach after raw chicken or some other disinfectant. Have fun getting salmonella.

Even if you soaked a plate in salmonella infected chicken and left it without cleaning at all, the bacteria can only survive for a couple hours...

Antibacterial or plain dishsoap is fine. Plus raw chicken you buy from stores usually doesnt contain salmonella because of the packaging and cooling/freezing of it.

Bleaching everything that comes in contact with raw meat is absurd.

I agree, our best kind of fuel, jet fuel, can't even melt dank memes. What kind of species are we?