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JichelMusten
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Personal opinion but rope tow parks make some of the best skiers
Apr 16 2015 8:51PM
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nochill
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what is the question or topic of this thread
Apr 16 2015 9:23PM
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yungcigsmoker
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No, rope parks make some of the best rail skiers.
Apr 16 2015 9:48PM
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cory.iyoob
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You forget to ask yourself if this was a stupid idea for a thread.
Apr 16 2015 9:51PM
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Mr.noodle
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I feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving
Apr 16 2015 10:17PM
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Swandog7
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Mr.noodleI feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving


While I can agree that we slay rails and aren't very great at jumps, our skiing is definetly not poor in general. I myself ski rope tow parks everyday I ski because in Minnesota that's all there is. Our jump game is usually like cork 7/cork 9 and rodeo 5 versus people in breck throwing doubles. It's really because we don't have jumps to serve us for bigger tricks. Ropes are convenient and nifty as hell because they are right next to the features so you can hit a feature 4x more than hiking without actually hiking but the park gets pretty bland after a while.
Apr 16 2015 10:44PM
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OzzyJ
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Mr.noodleI feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving


That's pretty much me, except for the bad at carving part, best jump tricks are 5 and sw 5 not corked either
Apr 16 2015 11:37PM
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John18_6
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Swandog7It's really because we don't have jumps to serve us for bigger tricks.

The jumps in MN are terribly built. The landings flatter than North Dakota (that's pretty damn flat). Spirit Mountain knows how to make good jumps. When they do it right, they're better than a lot of jumps out west. They are nowhere near big enough for learning doubles though.

Mr.noodleusually bad at skiing like good carving


Saying people on ropes can't carve is BS. Buck Hill breeds some really good racers and that's because they have a high speed rope on their racing practice hill. I get what you mean though, midwest kids can't ski big mountain for shit but carving really isn't that hard, literally just shifting your weight onto one edge of both skis.

If you can learn to carve on the man-made ice pellets of rope parks, you can carve anywhere because generally the snow conditions allow for better control anywhere that real snow exists.



My Opinion:

Rope Tows kick ass and give you as much if not more vert per hour as high speed chairlifts (depending on how fast the rope is).
Apr 17 2015 12:00AM
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_69
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Rope parks are only a big deal in the Midwest, and it creates a shit ton of good rail skiers. Once mountains out west adopt rope tows, it'll be crazy.
Apr 17 2015 9:38AM
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crimeenthusiast
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for me, my jump game is more about spinning all 4 ways rather than doing a left dub but not being able to spin past right 5. Thats what you get though when you're big jump is a flat 15 footer. And yeah midwesterners slay rails
Apr 17 2015 10:03AM
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WVskiing
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IMO talented rail skiers can easily take tricks to jumps. Once you gain the air awareness & control it can help.

Honestly, I say all skiing affects my park skiing. Like skiing bumps makes your riding way better. It makes you so quick and nimble.

So, SKI BUMPS!!!!
Apr 17 2015 10:14AM
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NMMedia
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Mr.noodleI feel like they are only good rail skiiers generally not good at jumps and usually bad at skiing like good carving


I beg to differ. I've skied a rope park in MN most of my life. And without a question every trip I've made out west I've had comments about how good my carving/big mountain skiing is from other rippers (most have commented, "you learned in the Midwest didn't you? You kids know how to set an edge" or something along those lines). Its not the length of the hill you learn on or the size of the mountain, its the conditions. Here in the midwest we learn to shred on glare ice, not the nice soft snow you get out West. So when we do go out West shit is easy mode for us.
Apr 17 2015 10:15AM
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John18_6
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I've topped 60mph on two hills in Minnesota. One hill was 600ft vert. We can still hit the terminal velocity for skis.
Apr 17 2015 10:43AM
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WI_skier
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Skiing on ice teaches us midwesterners how to set an edge. And learning tricks on shitty jumps makes it easier to do them on well made jumps. Nothing wrong with being good at rails anyway, I wouldn't trade the midwest for anything
Apr 17 2015 11:10AM
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oldworld_newlife
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imo i would rather be able to slay rails and throw a few simple 3s and 7s than be flippin and floppin like a madman in the air. i love big air and shit but ik ill never be like that. rails though, now that i can do
Apr 17 2015 5:57PM
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-MI-
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an_suckI wouldn't trade the midwest for anything


Not even the length of the seasons
Apr 17 2015 9:13PM
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John18_6
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WuWangNot even the length of the seasons


shit you got us. we put up a decent fight though. Usually we get a few hills to open their bunny hills with rails in October. Lutsen's last weekend is this weekend (although usually they go into the first weekend of may). Prime season only goes from thanksgiving to early to mid march, while the rest of the world enjoys staying open to 4/20.
Apr 18 2015 12:09AM
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pattyeiks
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Rope Towa make really good rail riders but as John said the Jumps suck
Apr 18 2015 2:03PM
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dingus
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We have a rope tow park at my mountain and is the only rope tow park in the pacific north west as far as I know, my problem with rope tow parks is I am extremely lazy, and end of sitting on my ass most of the time not progressing, when in a chair lift in a park I don't have the option to sit on my ass (aside from on the chair) so I end up doing better in those. But thats just my lazy self.
Apr 18 2015 6:08PM
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OzzyJ
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an_suckI wouldn't trade the midwest for anything


Someti,mes I think that I would rather live out west and ski there but then I remember that my hill is five minutes from my house and I can get tons of reps in
Apr 18 2015 10:52PM
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broto
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OzzyJSometi,mes I think that I would rather live out west and ski there but then I remember that my hill is five minutes from my house and I can get tons of reps in


meh. lived 5 mins from my hill back home. now i'm in utah. i'll take a 35 minute drive to pcmr any day.
Apr 18 2015 11:15PM
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John18_6
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brotoi'm in utah. i'll take a 35 minute drive to pcmr any day.


SLC is where it's at. All the big areas are really close- compared to Denver and other big cities. Duluth Minnesota has chester bowl which is literally a 3 block walk from the university. thats pretty cool
Apr 19 2015 12:07AM
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T-Van
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Still wishing for ropeparka in europe ...
Apr 19 2015 12:18AM
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OzzyJ
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brotomeh. lived 5 mins from my hill back home. now i'm in utah. i'll take a 35 minute drive to pcmr any day.


But then you have to think about a good time to go whereas when you are 5 minutes away you can go for an hour and not worry about wasting time driving
Apr 20 2015 10:06PM
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Zurg
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john18061806SLC is where it's at. All the big areas are really close- compared to Denver and other big cities. Duluth Minnesota has chester bowl which is literally a 3 block walk from the university. thats pretty cool


truth
Apr 20 2015 10:19PM
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KENDOZER
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Thank god for rope tows in the upper midwest, -25 is no problem wen the laps are that hot.
Apr 21 2015 7:37AM
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.Hugo.
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john18061806They are nowhere near big enough for learning doubles though.


I know someone that dub backed at spirit
Apr 21 2015 7:42AM
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John18_6
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Fred_BearI know someone that dub backed at spirit


I've heard the legend. Also there are a lot of snowboarders who double at hyland which absolutely baffles me because super isn't made very well.
Apr 21 2015 8:07AM
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broto
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OzzyJBut then you have to think about a good time to go whereas when you are 5 minutes away you can go for an hour and not worry about wasting time driving


Lol nah son like 3/4 of the days out here are bluebird.
Apr 21 2015 11:38AM
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NMMedia
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Fred_BearI know someone that dub backed at spirit


Soon as they got showtime up this year I saw plenty of people attempt and a few land it. I was super tempted to dub but cant get the nerves up for it after my crash trying it a couple years back.
Apr 21 2015 11:41AM
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Lonely
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At crystal in we of cursed with like 500 feet of elevation and no rope. Which means hitting three or four features, and then spending 10 minutes to get back up on a busy day. So the only option is to hike.
Apr 21 2015 11:56AM
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