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Hillary will apparently announce her running Sunday. GOP is lacking quality selection, Jeb is the default because he's a Bush and more moderate than Cruz and others. Millions of republicans find it hard to back an individual right now. Hillary could possibly win because she's reconginzable and doesn't need to spend campaign funds to become famous like all other candidates must.
Saudi Arabia doesn't conduct business with women in the room, South Korea as well, please mention any other countries that still frown upon powerful women.
Pros: doubles the pool of options if it weren't for this shitty two party system that foils all
Cons: "progressives" will vote for the woman no matter what, you know, just to be a part of the solution rather than the problem...
I liked Bill, so I do see some draw to Hillary with the support she'll have behind her. My parents said she nearly destroyed the health care system, and they're doctor/nurse so I trust their word for it.
I intend on voting republican if not independent (go again Gary!)
If you vote for a president because of their gender or ethnicity you're a fucking moron. Voting for Barack for the reason of being black shows your stupidity, voting for Hillary because she's a woman also shows your stupidity.
If there was an awesome female candidate I wouldn't hesitate to vote for her. Hillary is far from being that candidate. #anyonebuthillary
Who the fuck cares? No matter who wins the country will just continue to get into gridlock over stupid fucking issues without actually solving anything thus further screwing us as a whole while the people making the decisions live a plush fucking life.
There's nothing wrong with a woman being president but people voting just for that reason are idiots. Same with people who voted for obama because he was black. I'm going to vote based on race and gender to show that race and gender don't matter.
That said presidents are pretty useless these days. They have power but they don't have the epic power people seem to think. Whatever power they do have has generally been paid for by k street so who cares.
I'm tempted to say bad thing, but I think that's because the only woman president I can imagine is Hillary Clinton. I can't really see a good reason why gender should matter in picking a president.
Also, I don't know what would make you say the GOP is lacking quality selection. They already have a solid candidate in Rand Paul running, and if they get Scott Walker to run, they will run the democrats into the dirt just like they did in November.
i couldn't give the slightest fuck about the president's gender. that being said, i'd stick myself in a vein with a syringe full of heroin whilst sucking on the barrel of a shotgun, Cobain style, before i'd ever vote for Hillary. It has zero to do with her gender and everything to do with her being a scandalous train wreck of a presidential candidate. She belongs in jail...not the oval office.
Shouldn't matter if she is a woman or not. If shes the best candidate shell win the nominee. But shes not. So hopefully she doesnt. This country needs change more than ever. The people need to take back our country for what it stood for.
Whoever is the best candidate should win. Sex doesn't matter. I feel as if people would vote for a woman just because it's the first one. I don't want to be racist or anything, but it's kind of like Obama. It was a huge press point that he would be the first African American president. Of course, the majority of oppressed people living in the US are African American, and most of them voted for him just because he was too. They wanted to see change in race superiority. I stand for equality, but a lot of people don't understand the priorities of having a good leader instead of one to "make history" or "break new gender or sexual grounds."
I guarantee every single feminist in the United States would vote for a female president even if they were the equivalent of Sweet Brown.
That being said, I don't think there's any pros nor cons. Just pick someone who's able.
not to sound like a mysogonistic fuck but women have only been in the army for what, 2 years? then how efficiently can a woman lead the worlds most powerful army if she has never been in it?
Other er than those reasons a woman president would be inretesting to see, it will happen with in my lifetime I am sure of that.
toastyteenagersnot to sound like a mysogonistic fuck but women have only been in the army for what, 2 years? then how efficiently can a woman lead the worlds most powerful army if she has never been in it?
Other er than those reasons a woman president would be inretesting to see, it will happen with in my lifetime I am sure of that.
What does that have to do with anything? Plenty of presidents weren't in the army lol.
As for "worlds most powerful army," your army is not as active as you think. A lot of American military ventures are handled by private contractors. Google academi. The USA's army hasn't fully flexed its muscles in some time, and I can come up with at least a couple of nations whose militaries could potentially pose a lethal threat to the the states.
Men, women; hell, even whales can rule a country these days!
(Norways PM)
What matters in diplomacy isn't whether one is male or female, but the means at ones disposal.
The gender of the president is totally irrelevant. A president should be chosen by how well they will do their job, not whether they have a dick or not.
BlindsurferWhat does that have to do with anything? Plenty of presidents weren't in the army lol.
As for "worlds most powerful army," your army is not as active as you think. A lot of American military ventures are handled by private contractors. Google academi. The USA's army hasn't fully flexed its muscles in some time, and I can come up with at least a couple of nations whose militaries could potentially pose a lethal threat to the the states.
BlindsurferAs for "worlds most powerful army," your army is not as active as you think. A lot of American military ventures are handled by private contractors. Google academi. The USA's army hasn't fully flexed its muscles in some time, and I can come up with at least a couple of nations whose militaries could potentially pose a lethal threat to the the states.
No country can touch the United States military. Just comparing our navy to the rest of the worlds Navies is unfair. We have 10 active Supercarriers, and two more being built. The only other country that is even building any is the Royal Navy. They're building two and neither of them are nuclear. I believe something like the next 13 largest navies total displacement is still smaller than the US Navy. That's just scraping the service.
Our Air Force is also significantly bigger, better equipped, better funded and better trained than any other out there.
Our Army and Marine Corps have been on the ground fighting in some insanely harsh climates for the last 14 years. The amount of experience among leaders on all levels is unmatched. All that war brought a lot of technological advances too. We have the best main battle tank. The best and most Attack helicopters. The best weapons systems. The best training.
I don't really think I need to go into special operations but again, SOCOM cannot be touched by any other country. Even countries that have equal capabilities, which very few have, they don't have the numbers or funding.
theBearJewShouldn't matter if she is a woman or not. If shes the best candidate shell win the nominee. But shes not. So hopefully she doesnt. This country needs change more than ever. The people need to take back our country for what it stood for.
To bad the people are as dumb as ever. "I like his pants" or "My tv told me I should vote for X" and all kinds of others make me want to stab myself with a spoon.
I agree though, we need some serious change. It fucking pained me to hear a bunch of morons regurgitating that "We want change" bullshit during the obama campaign. Then have those stupid cunts could barely lay out any real things that needed change if they had any ideas at all.
I honestly think the American public is too ignorant to really elect anyone who will make a positive difference. We bitch about politicians al being crooks etc, then we elect those types of people time and time again. When any fresh blood takes a stab at getting in we say "You're not a career politician" so you don't know what's going on. Then we go back to bitching that the shitty career politicians are being shitty career politicians.
The economy was the "biggest issue" allegedly in the 2008 campaign. For the most part, none of the candidates had anything even remotely decent to pitch about helping the economy, yet they still had plenty of idiots jacking off to their little speeches and ready to cast a vote.
I don't even know if I care anymore. Let the stupid people have what they want. Change achieved through doing the same old. Good fucking luck America.
I'm building a space ship and moving to mars or something.
CirilloNo country can touch the United States military. Just comparing our navy to the rest of the worlds Navies is unfair. We have 10 active Supercarriers, and two more being built. The only other country that is even building any is the Royal Navy. They're building two and neither of them are nuclear. I believe something like the next 13 largest navies total displacement is still smaller than the US Navy. That's just scraping the service.
Our Air Force is also significantly bigger, better equipped, better funded and better trained than any other out there.
Our Army and Marine Corps have been on the ground fighting in some insanely harsh climates for the last 14 years. The amount of experience among leaders on all levels is unmatched. All that war brought a lot of technological advances too. We have the best main battle tank. The best and most Attack helicopters. The best weapons systems. The best training.
I don't really think I need to go into special operations but again, SOCOM cannot be touched by any other country. Even countries that have equal capabilities, which very few have, they don't have the numbers or funding.
Money matters and we spend the most of it.
America pretty much crushes everyone... in everything... ever.
CirilloNo country can touch the United States military. Just comparing our navy to the rest of the worlds Navies is unfair. We have 10 active Supercarriers, and two more being built. The only other country that is even building any is the Royal Navy. They're building two and neither of them are nuclear. I believe something like the next 13 largest navies total displacement is still smaller than the US Navy. That's just scraping the service.
Our Air Force is also significantly bigger, better equipped, better funded and better trained than any other out there.
Our Army and Marine Corps have been on the ground fighting in some insanely harsh climates for the last 14 years. The amount of experience among leaders on all levels is unmatched. All that war brought a lot of technological advances too. We have the best main battle tank. The best and most Attack helicopters. The best weapons systems. The best training.
I don't really think I need to go into special operations but again, SOCOM cannot be touched by any other country. Even countries that have equal capabilities, which very few have, they don't have the numbers or funding.
Money matters and we spend the most of it.
America pretty much crushes everyone... in everything... ever.
Petey.The idea of a woman being Commander in Chief of the United States military seems ridiculous
It was a woman who located Osama Bin Laden. That alone is proof that there are women who are militarily qualified to be in charge. Whether Hillary is one of those people is an entirely different story, but you're statement is still retarded.
KreechIt was a woman who located Osama Bin Laden. That alone is proof that there are women who are militarily qualified to be in charge. Whether Hillary is one of those people is an entirely different story, but you're statement is still retarded.
This is fucking retarded reasoning. That had literally nothing to do with military knowledge or decision making.
Your scenario proves a woman belongs as an intelligence analyst. Lol.
The president doesn't need a military background. Very few have actually had one.
CirilloNo country can touch the United States military. Just comparing our navy to the rest of the worlds Navies is unfair. We have 10 active Supercarriers, and two more being built. The only other country that is even building any is the Royal Navy. They're building two and neither of them are nuclear. I believe something like the next 13 largest navies total displacement is still smaller than the US Navy. That's just scraping the service.
Our Air Force is also significantly bigger, better equipped, better funded and better trained than any other out there.
Our Army and Marine Corps have been on the ground fighting in some insanely harsh climates for the last 14 years. The amount of experience among leaders on all levels is unmatched. All that war brought a lot of technological advances too. We have the best main battle tank. The best and most Attack helicopters. The best weapons systems. The best training.
I don't really think I need to go into special operations but again, SOCOM cannot be touched by any other country. Even countries that have equal capabilities, which very few have, they don't have the numbers or funding.
Blindsurferbro canadian spec ops trains your spec ops
Blindsurferchina for one seeing as it's pretty much surpassed you on the world stage and you're in their pocket lol
Blindsurferchina's sheer bodycount would allow it to resurge after a nuclear war
Lol all of these post just show you have no idea what you are talking about. Love them or hate them there is no denying that the US has far more hard power than any other country in the world.
Blindsurferbro canadian spec ops trains your spec ops
Trains with* them. The may have similar skill sets like I said. JTF 2 is very legit, but they don't have the numbers, experience or funding.
CAG and DEVGRU are the top special operations units on the planet, are flown around by the best special operations pilots on the planet and are equipped with the best equipment on the planet.
Then there's the paramilitary wing of the CIA which recruits from those units so who even knows what they're capable of.
toastyteenagersnot to sound like a mysogonistic fuck but women have only been in the army for what, 2 years? then how efficiently can a woman lead the worlds most powerful army if she has never been in it?
What, you think women can't lead a country in a state of war? I'll give you several very kickass examples.
^Golda Meir - Israel's Iron Lady (before Thatcher took the title in the 80's)... When her nation was about to be invaded on Yom Kippur 1973, She first, didn't rush to order a preemptive strike like in 1967, and won a ton of western support in doing so. This kinda opened up the tidal wave of US support or Israel, at a time when the USA was still not giving them a whole lot (the IDF still used French aircraft, 1940's British tanks, and fucking M4 SHERMANS FROM WORLD WAR 2 at this point - and they were going up against SOVIET EQUIPPED NATIONS) This support continues today, and though Israel is totally being an asshole, and their current leader is a political fuckstick, the allegience between Israel and the USA can be tied to dis bish. When her small country was invaded on 2 different fronts by Syria and Egypt, she lead her country in a war on TWO FRONTS, totally had some badass speeches that pumped everyone up to defend their Jewish Island whatever the cost may be, and basically was Israel's own version of Winston Churchill and Margaret Thatcher combined.
speak of the devil...
Thatcher, yet another top english person who added to the sterotype of bad english dental hygiene, didn't let wimpy dictator-run Argentina push her around, and sent in a crazy ass RAF/Royal Navy tactical strike force to beat back the Argentinians in the Falklands. Today, the Argies are still so pissed off that they started shit with the Top Gear presenters because they couldn't take some shitty little frozen islands in the south Atlantic from a nation who had pretty much de-militarized itself after the 1970's and was using cobbled together ships and aircraft from the Korean War era. (this is of no offense to British folk on here, as your military is legit in modern day - but in 1982, it was simply there in detente of the Soviets) She was also superduperfriends with President Reagan, and was ultimately a total idiot as far as domestic shit was concerned, kinda like Churchill before her... but also like the British Bulldog, this chick didn't take a fucking ounce of shit - in an era where women were expected to take whatever shit that was flung at them. They call her the Iron Lady for a reason.
Another woman with guns pointed at her head...
South Korea's Park Geun Hye
This chick has to put up with North Korea on a regular ass basis, and grew up with BOTH of her parents being assassinated by douchebags. She has a degree in Electronic Engineering so she can definitely kick your ass at Starcraft, and by that account, she can RTS the fuck out of you, and can handle any bullshit zergrush masses on her nation. She's got a highly tech'd up military, with US and western aid and if North Korea were so stupid as to do anything, She'd have siege tanks and protoss carriers fucking their shit up so fast that it would actually be kinda funny. Bitch don't play. At the same time, she's helped her nation's economy grow like crazy, and now all of us are buying Hyundais and Galaxy S6's instead of Fords and iPhones... She also has a secret weapon on her side, where she can enact Gangnam style on anyone and it does at least +47 damage per turn.
and lastly...
Angela Merkel. Leader of Germany for the last decade, and a former research scientist. This chick is smart as fuck, and she's kept her nation growing like a beast economically, while also keeping it out of any military issue. She has a distinction of building strong diplomatic ties with basically everyone (even with Putin being Putin, and US Spies wiretapping her shit), and keeping her part of the world strongly unified and outspoken against bullshit behavior, She's basically the leader of the European Union, more powerful than anyone in the UK or France, and by that account, could be seen to be the 2nd most powerful person on the planet behind Obama, and the leader of the other free world... She's spearheaded her nation to almost complete green energy independence and if you weren't buying a Hyundai or a Kia, you're probably buying a car built in her country. Seriously, Germany went from The Love Bug to Formula 1 winning mercedes in like no-time-flat, and pretty much invented what we now call "luxury". Even the Japanese just copy the Germans when it comes to shit - and the globe buys it up by the bushel... If Germany was to ever needed to jump into a war, this chick would be able to just mustard gas everyone Kaiser style and would sit back, taking pictures of you burn on her bangin sexy 10 thousand dollar leica.
I really couldn't care less if my candidate of choice was female or not. Bottom line is that Hillary is NOT what this country needs imo. We will just continue in the wrong direction that we are headed now.
And OP, what you said about Jeb Bush is pretty false. Rand Paul is actually pretty liberal on the spectrum of a republican candidate, and i think he'll be whose chosen because of his appeal to non-affiliated voters. Even myself being republican, I know that ted cruz and other extremely right-wing tea party conservative guys would be terrible choices.
.complexI really couldn't care less if my candidate of choice was female or not. Bottom line is that Hillary is NOT what this country needs imo. We will just continue in the wrong direction that we are headed now.
And OP, what you said about Jeb Bush is pretty false. Rand Paul is actually pretty liberal on the spectrum of a republican candidate, and i think he'll be whose chosen because of his appeal to non-affiliated voters. Even myself being republican, I know that ted cruz and other extremely right-wing tea party conservative guys would be terrible choices.
Can some conservative please explain to me what they hate about Hillary so much? I mean, she's moderate as fuck, dudes... By no means is she all that liberal. She's conservative as far as Democrats are concerned.
Rand Paul is not liberal. I mean, the dude wants to repeal that civil rights act of 1964... how's that not fucking conservative as shit? I don't think anyone with the last name of "Paul" is going to get nominated... My money is on a Baby Baby Bush vs Mrs. Clinton war next summer...
