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4man
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So last weekend I decided to be dumb and send it off a big step down going at Mach potato and threw the biggest spread eagle I could because why not but ended up throwing my hands too hard or something and rotated forward a little bit and bam landed flat on my arm and face. (Whys it always the stupid shit that gets you hurt) Anyway I was lucky enough to dislocate my shoulder and popped er back in and thought that was that but my doc sent me for x rays and I guess the head off humorous is fractured and torey labrum and rotator cuff as well

Has anyone had an injury like this? He said surgery is an option but I could probably do physio (find out next week how badly it's torn). I obviously want to be ready to go for next season. Pain is t really to big of an issue for me but I would like for it to be just as strong as before. I'm sure newschoolers is the best place for medical advice right?
Apr 9 2015 2:56PM
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Sacha_
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Spread eagle is a pussy trick. You probably deserved it.
Apr 9 2015 3:00PM
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4man
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Sacha_Spread eagle is a pussy trick. You probably deserved it.


You have hurt my feelings. I hope you're proud
Apr 9 2015 3:12PM
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yhprum1720
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I had surgery for a torn labrum last June and was skiing again by the end of December. However, I did have to take it easy skiing and spent pretty much the whole season on groomers. Obviously this is not medical advice and you should listen to your doctor but I would try to take the physical therapy route if possible. The surgery has a long recovery time and requires several months of physical therapy. Best of luck to you
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PilleDaKid
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Sacha_Spread eagle is a pussy trick. You probably deserved it.


Spread eagle is easily one of my favorite tricks and is also a classic. Take your E-hate somewhere else you big Jerry.
Apr 9 2015 4:10PM
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bnewbs6
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I would get the surgery. I got my labrum fixed a few years ago. It was supposedly a 6 month recovery time. I was able to hit it extremely hard in the PT and was back to normal in 4 months and than stronger than before at 5 months. You just gotta be committed to getting stronger and you'll be good. If I wouldn't have got the surgery my shoulder would still be popping out all the time and clicking at catching and hurt all the time. And with labrum+rotator cuff it will be much worse.
Apr 9 2015 4:19PM
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fortyvalve
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Like 6-7 years ago I got surgery for a torn rotator cuff and labrum, and something called a SLAP tear. I played baseball and was a pitcher so this was mostly due to overuse but I also fell on a jump towards the end of the season and landed onto my arm when it was outstretched and I think that was probably the nail in the coffin for my shoulder. I've recovered okay, strength is fine but I don't have a full range of motion. If you do get surgery never skip PT and take it as seriously as possible.
Apr 9 2015 4:31PM
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hippy.killer
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I fell on my shoulder one time in like January and it dislocated. Then I did the same exact thing the next week and went to the doctor and got an MRI and I have a tear in my labrum. haven't gotten surgery and I dont know if I am since it's not too bad, I might just do PT and see how it goes. Also my sister tore hers and got surgery and it took her like 6 months to recover, so I'm sorta scared to get surgery
Apr 9 2015 8:53PM
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SKI.ING
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Might as well try PT first. Exhaust all your options. I did something similar and got surgery and while it doesn't pop out when I fall anymore, it definitely has never been the same as it was. Like someone else said, range of motion isn't quite what it was, but I knew that going in. And recovery is a bitch and a half generally for anything to do with shoulders. So much more goes into a shoulder than an ACL so don't use that as a timeline for skiing. It's quite the process.
Apr 9 2015 9:41PM
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Dobber
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4man(Whys it always the stupid shit that gets you hurt)


Well, what do you expect when you do stupid shit?
Apr 9 2015 10:58PM
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californiagrown
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for the love of god try to make PT work. It is NEVER good to have surgery. There will be scar tissue and there will be an increase in arthritis within that joint down the road.

Your shoulder capsule is still intact, right?
Apr 10 2015 12:21AM
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Contender
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Was it a complete tear?

I've had a partial tear for 4 weeks or so, went to the doctors but no MRI. Just did a physical test.
Apr 10 2015 10:23AM
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4man
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Thanks for the input so far! It is a full tear of my rotator cuff since the Part of humorous that broke is what it attached too. At least that's what I'm pretty sure my doc said. Anyway I'm meeting with the orth surgeon on Thursday to see how bad the labrum is. It looks sorta like I'll be going under the knife by what everyone said. Is rather it be stronger than before too seeing as I tend to take a few nasty spills every season. Lucky this only happened now. Range of motion doesn't matter too much. I heard with the rotator cuff bench press and things that that will never be the same

What's it like 2-3 months after?? I do a lot of backpacking and hiking in the summer and would like to start booking camp sites soon but if I can't carry a 45 pack for more than 3days that obviously won't work.

Thanks again for the input. Shit blows.
Apr 10 2015 10:37AM
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4manThanks for the input so far! It is a full tear of my rotator cuff since the Part of humorous that broke is what it attached too. At least that's what I'm pretty sure my doc said. Anyway I'm meeting with the orth surgeon on Thursday to see how bad the labrum is. It looks sorta like I'll be going under the knife by what everyone said. Is rather it be stronger than before too seeing as I tend to take a few nasty spills every season. Lucky this only happened now. Range of motion doesn't matter too much. I heard with the rotator cuff bench press and things that that will never be the same

What's it like 2-3 months after?? I do a lot of backpacking and hiking in the summer and would like to start booking camp sites soon but if I can't carry a 45 pack for more than 3days that obviously won't work.

Thanks again for the input. Shit blows.


Jeez that's awful. Funny thing is, I don't even remember which fall made it tear. The pain didn't set in until a few hours after I got home. I've fallen way worse the past few seasons and walked away with nothing. I guess it just goes to show how anything can happen despite precautions.
Apr 10 2015 11:35AM
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yhprum1720
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4manWhat's it like 2-3 months after?? I do a lot of backpacking and hiking in the summer and would like to start booking camp sites soon but if I can't carry a 45 pack for more than 3days that obviously won't work


2-3 months after you will be out of the sling and will be able to walk without pain. You will probably be able to run too. Keep in mind that PT doesn't start until a month after the surgery. 2 months after surgery you definitely will not be able to carry a heavy backpack. Maybe you will at 3 months but I would wait even longer. The key to a successful repair is taking it slow and focusing on PT.
Apr 10 2015 11:53AM
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californiagrown
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4manThanks for the input so far! It is a full tear of my rotator cuff since the Part of humorous that broke is what it attached too. At least that's what I'm pretty sure my doc said. Anyway I'm meeting with the orth surgeon on Thursday to see how bad the labrum is. It looks sorta like I'll be going under the knife by what everyone said. Is rather it be stronger than before too seeing as I tend to take a few nasty spills every season. Lucky this only happened now. Range of motion doesn't matter too much. I heard with the rotator cuff bench press and things that that will never be the same

What's it like 2-3 months after?? I do a lot of backpacking and hiking in the summer and would like to start booking camp sites soon but if I can't carry a 45 pack for more than 3days that obviously won't work.

Thanks again for the input. Shit blows.


Everyone is different. Hoisting the pack up will be the crux movement. Carrying it around won't be a problem because your shoulder takes very little loading. With cuff surgery your arm willl be iobilized for 6-8weeks in a strapped down sling.

This will be a 6+ month recovery FYI. And its real easy to retear and or tear sutures. This is a major injury.


My biggest piece of advice is to do a ton of online research now, so when you do see your surgeon you know exactly what he is talking about, and can ask questions so you fully understand everything involved and the timelines.
Apr 10 2015 11:54AM
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4man
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ContenderJeez that's awful. Funny thing is, I don't even remember which fall made it tear. The pain didn't set in until a few hours after I got home. I've fallen way worse the past few seasons and walked away with nothing. I guess it just goes to show how anything can happen despite precautions.


Damn that's crazy haha I definately knew when mine happened. Popping my shoulder back in was probably the most painful thing I've ever done. Skied down though after. Hopefully that didn't muck it up more.
Apr 10 2015 12:05PM
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4man
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californiagrownEveryone is different. Hoisting the pack up will be the crux movement. Carrying it around won't be a problem because your shoulder takes very little loading. With cuff surgery your arm willl be iobilized for 6-8weeks in a strapped down sling.

This will be a 6+ month recovery FYI. And its real easy to retear and or tear sutures. This is a major injury.


My biggest piece of advice is to do a ton of online research now, so when you do see your surgeon you know exactly what he is talking about, and can ask questions so you fully understand everything involved and the timelines.


Well than that kinda blows. Thanks for the advice I will definitely take it to heart. My step dad is actually my doctors partner so he's kinda been able to help answer a bunch of questions I had last time I saw him but I will definitely keep researching so I know everything involved. I will for sure take my time and do it right the first time so I can move on and live my life (as close as possible at least) the same way.

My doc told me no more sending it deep. He obviously hasn't heard that speed checks are for pussies...

Just people with properly attached limbs I suppose haha
Apr 10 2015 12:10PM
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californiagrown
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4manWell than that kinda blows. Thanks for the advice I will definitely take it to heart. My step dad is actually my doctors partner so he's kinda been able to help answer a bunch of questions I had last time I saw him but I will definitely keep researching so I know everything involved. I will for sure take my time and do it right the first time so I can move on and live my life (as close as possible at least) the same way.

My doc told me no more sending it deep. He obviously hasn't heard that speed checks are for pussies...

Just people with properly attached limbs I suppose haha


Do your own research as well. Right now, you don't know what you don't know. It'll also give you a much broader perspective on what to expect, how hard to push, tips and tricks to make everything easier smoother and less painful..

Don't rely on your doctor. They don't know as much as you think.
Apr 10 2015 12:18PM
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4man
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californiagrownDo your own research as well. Right now, you don't know what you don't know. It'll also give you a much broader perspective on what to expect, how hard to push, tips and tricks to make everything easier smoother and less painful..

Don't rely on your doctor. They don't know as much as you think.


Fair enough bro thanks! Will for sure get on that. I tend to obsess about things so shouldn't be a problem haha

Figured newschoolers was am okay place to get some first hand experiences considering other medical websites are full of old ladies who fell over.
Apr 10 2015 12:22PM
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SkierX
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No rotator cuff damage in my case, but figured I'd point you towards my recap of my experience with a torn labrum...

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/693474/Bankart-Repair---My-Tale-of--Recovery
Apr 10 2015 12:52PM
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4man
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SkierXNo rotator cuff damage in my case, but figured I'd point you towards my recap of my experience with a torn labrum...

https://www.newschoolers.com/forum/thread/693474/Bankart-Repair---My-Tale-of--Recovery


Wow that is super helpful man thanks. I feel like we might be in the same boat pain wise so that's something I can expect when it comes to PT in terms of progression. Like I said in the initial post everyone was kinda shocked how bad I messed it up. I was even considering skiing the next day.

Ironically I am going on vacation too in a couple of weeks haha due to my major though I'll be in school all summer so that should keep me relatively busy.
Apr 10 2015 1:05PM
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californiagrown
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4manWow that is super helpful man thanks. I feel like we might be in the same boat pain wise so that's something I can expect when it comes to PT in terms of progression. Like I said in the initial post everyone was kinda shocked how bad I messed it up. I was even considering skiing the next day.

Ironically I am going on vacation too in a couple of weeks haha due to my major though I'll be in school all summer so that should keep me relatively busy.


Haha you won't know till you get the surgery. I pitched 6 innings a week before my surgery and never had pain except when it subluxed.

I would rate the pain after surgery at 8/10. 10 being branded with a hot poker. The pills didn't help much with the pain, they just made it easy to sleep. Thank god for GTA San Andreas lol.
Apr 10 2015 1:16PM
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4man
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californiagrownHaha you won't know till you get the surgery. I pitched 6 innings a week before my surgery and never had pain except when it subluxed.

I would rate the pain after surgery at 8/10. 10 being branded with a hot poker. The pills didn't help much with the pain, they just made it easy to sleep. Thank god for GTA San Andreas lol.


Well shit hahah id rank the feeling of putting it back in a solid 8 so it looks like I have something to look forward too! Painkillers will hopefully be fun..
Apr 10 2015 1:28PM
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Holzsteezy*
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broke my collarbone and messed up my AC joint February 1st. didnt need surgery. i was out of skiing for 6 weeks. Its been 10 weeks since i broke it and still don't feel 100% even with PT. My advice for you is get the surgery and do as much PT as possible and take it seriously. If you don't take it seriously your shoulder will always be messed up. Good luck brotha!
Apr 10 2015 6:50PM
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auski
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Dislocated shoulder = get a shoulder reconstruction otherwise it'll almost certainly happen again
Apr 10 2015 7:33PM
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