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-benedettoAre you getting off to this arguing?
pow_pow~difference being drivers are allowed alcohol and i assume pilots are not? there is no comparison there? do i have 200 people in my car? youre obviously pretty emotional about this but im not going to bother keep defending myself because i am completely fine with the way i drive normally, and in the rare cases, when ive been drinking.
here you go
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/765327.0/me
Sketchy3sThe 200 people are the other drivers on the road/pedestrians/property damage that are possibly deaths, and the risk that increases as you drink and drive dumbass. I'm comparing the pilot of the plane putting the people at risk similar to you. Cars are a leading cause of death even without alcohol dumbass. And yeah I am pretty emotional about this. Doesn't make the issue any lesser
pow_pow~seriously how many times have i said that im not drunk to the level that you're thinking. when i say drunk i mean maybe just over the legal limit here. which as ive said numerious times is under your legal limit. therefore i technically wouldnt even be drunk driving in the states. i really dont see how you fail to understand that.
DeebieSkeebiesdon't know why you guys are getting mad at this dude. let him get tanked and drive, just makes him more prone to natural selection
pow_pow~also another factor you should probably take into account is your ridiculously high legal drinking age. if you start drinking at 21 you do not have time to learn how alcohol will affect you individually. in australia its 18, and most probably start at 16, its just how our culture is. that means i have had a full 5 years to understand my limits and how alcohol affects me personally, before you start legally drinking.
pow_pow~you keep presenting all these situations that i will never, ever be in. passangers? nope. kids? nope. oncoming traffic? nope. high speeds? nope.
pow_pow~also another factor you should probably take into account is your ridiculously high legal drinking age. if you start drinking at 21 you do not have time to learn how alcohol will affect you individually. in australia its 18, and most probably start at 16, its just how our culture is. that means i have had a full 5 years to understand my limits and how alcohol affects me personally, before you start legally drinking.
Sketchy3sIf you have a few drinks as you say, and you say, and I'm assuming you way around 180-190 that puts your blood concentration at between .06 and .07 this is yes below the legal limit but is on the high end of having your driving skills significantly affected.
Quoting center for alcohol and drug.
So if you have been having a few as you said quite a few times..
Granite_StateAlso wrong. I got pulled over last year and was forced (I agreed but you really don't have a choice if you dont want to go instantly to jail) to take a breathelizer. I blew a .06. I can honestly say I was shocked, I felt completely sober. So yeah, definitely disagree with this...
Granite_StateAlso wrong. I got pulled over last year and was forced (I agreed but you really don't have a choice if you dont want to go instantly to jail) to take a breathelizer. I blew a .06. I can honestly say I was shocked, I felt completely sober. So yeah, definitely disagree with this...
Sketchy3sI'm not saying it is the same for all. Different people handle differently. Regardless you are still drunk driving.
pow_pow~difference being drivers are allowed alcohol and i assume pilots are not? there is no comparison there? do i have 200 people in my car? youre obviously pretty emotional about this but im not going to bother keep defending myself because i am completely fine with the way i drive normally, and in the rare cases, when ive been drinking.
here you go
https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/765327.0/me
Granite_StateI'm just pointing out that you said its ".06 and .07 this is yes below the legal limit but is on the high end of having your driving skills significantly affected." I simply said that is not true, yes I'm "drunk" driving but my skills weren't affected at all. I know that everyone handles alcohol differently but that just proves this is a false statement.
I'm not trying to take sides I just think drunk driving and driving with a buzz are totally different. One affects your motor skills and reaction, one doesn't.
.Hugo.That actually proves absolutely nothing. You may think you were fine but your reaction time easily could have been slower. You cant say your driving was not affected with 100% certainty... the alcohol also alters your judgement
Granite_StateI disagree and you can ask the passenger who was riding with me if he thought me judgement was altered. I am 100% confident my driving ability wasn't affected. Plus, why have the .08 law if you are still going to have your judegment altered? Oh yeah thats because they probably have done testing to prove you can operate a vehicle without harm to others under that limit.
Shit if thats the argument you wanna make, anyone you drives stoned should face the same consequences as driving drunk because being high can surely affect your judgement as well.
.Hugo.Im just saying people who are shitfaced and drive think they are doing perfectly fine, no im not saying you were shitfaced. Even if your reaction time is impaired by tenths of a second that could affect the iutcome if an incident.
I think people that drive high should face the same consequences.
CameraWizDoesn't mean you can't lose control of your house and plow through someones house or yard.
Granite_StateOk good then we are on the same page. All I'm saying is that there are 1,000 different things that can impair your reaction time; alcohol, weed, a cellphone, talking to another person in the car, eating food, etc. the list goes on. Where do you draw the line?
Granite_StateI disagree and you can ask the passenger who was riding with me if he thought me judgement was altered. I am 100% confident my driving ability wasn't affected. Plus, why have the .08 law if you are still going to have your judegment altered? Oh yeah thats because they probably have done testing to prove you can operate a vehicle without harm to others under that limit.
Shit if thats the argument you wanna make, anyone you drives stoned should face the same consequences as driving drunk because being high can surely affect your judgement as well.
pow_pow~mate i can guarantee i am a better and safer driver than you, i have grown up around cars all my life. so dont talk down to me.
pow_pow~lets just finish this up. if i am drunk, pissed, whatever. i dont drive and usually dont have my car anywhere near me. if i have been drinking and might be slightly over the limit, but completely fine in every other aspect, i will drive the two minutes home from the train station.
because its up and down massive hills, taking about 40 mins and a lot of effort.
pow_pow~well thats where i say you dont understand my area like i do, and im not going to fall asleep in two minutes, thats fucking retarded.
Granite_StateAlso wrong. I got pulled over last year and was forced (I agreed but you really don't have a choice if you dont want to go instantly to jail) to take a breathelizer. I blew a .06. I can honestly say I was shocked, I felt completely sober. So yeah, definitely disagree with this...
pow_pow~and ive said in the 15 or so times ive driven back from the station after drinking, while probably not "drunk", i have seen zero people. you cannot pretend like you know my area and what goes on. im going to have a beer before i drive home from work tomorrow just for you. ill be sure to send you a photo.
TBK_ski.coWell put. DUI laws in the US are poorly written. I don't understand why you can get a DUI driving responsibly over the limit, going through a DUI checkpoint. Yet could go scotch free for driving sleep deprived, being a much bigger threat to the public's safety. Another ridiculous law that most states have is zero tolerance for minors, I could understand giving them an MIP, but what difference is there between a 20 year old who blows a .05, and an adult who blows a .05.
Also the fact that cops sit a few blocks down the road from bars really bothers me. If they really cared about keeping the streets safer, they would be sitting in the parking lots giving out free breathalyzer tests.
TBK_ski.coWell put. DUI laws in the US are poorly written. I don't understand why you can get a DUI driving responsibly over the limit, going through a DUI checkpoint. Yet could go scotch free for driving sleep deprived, being a much bigger threat to the public's safety. Another ridiculous law that most states have is zero tolerance for minors, I could understand giving them an MIP, but what difference is there between a 20 year old who blows a .05, and an adult who blows a .05.
Also the fact that cops sit a few blocks down the road from bars really bothers me. If they really cared about keeping the streets safer, they would be sitting in the parking lots giving out free breathalyzer tests.
cool_nameThat is like saying if cops really wanted to stop speeding they would advertise when and where they will have speed traps, sure it will stop speeding exactly where those traps are set up, but because of the advance warning people will just speed even more everywhere else because they know they won't be caught. Compare that to having hidden speed traps, with hidden speed traps a driver never knows when or where a speed trap will be and will have to always watch his speed, verus only speeding down when he knows their is a trap.
Obviously in a perfect world have cops stationed outside every bar would be ideal, but no city can afford that level of enforcement, making a constant fear of getting caught and strict penalties a far better enforcement strategy.
pow_pow~horrible analogy
cool_nameThat is like saying if cops really wanted to stop speeding they would advertise when and where they will have speed traps, sure it will stop speeding exactly where those traps are set up, but because of the advance warning people will just speed even more everywhere else because they know they won't be caught. Compare that to having hidden speed traps, with hidden speed traps a driver never knows when or where a speed trap will be and will have to always watch his speed, verus only speeding down when he knows their is a trap.
Obviously in a perfect world have cops stationed outside every bar would be ideal, but no city can afford that level of enforcement, making a constant fear of getting caught and strict penalties a far better enforcement strategy.
Sketchy3sDraw the line on all of them. You are operating a machine that when driven impaired or distractledly you can kill your self or others there's no exception. There's no excuse. If you choose to drive a vehicle and endanger yourself and others there is no way in he'll you should do it distractledly.
El_Barto.Know how i know youre not old enough to drive?
Sketchy3sHow do you know that I'm not old enough to drive. Sorry be back in a sec. Driving to mountain
El_Barto.youre hands always 12 and 2? You ever have a drink of water or change the radio? Thats distracted driving bro...go fuck yourself
Sketchy3sHow do you know that I'm not old enough to drive. Sorry be back in a sec. Driving to mountain
Sketchy3sNo there not. I've eaten and done those things. I'm guilty of that. Those are different than staring down at your phone texting, having a few before you drive, driving on a ton of painkiller etc.
SFBwhoa chill out man
El_Barto.You said you draw the line on all distracted driving. but eating while driving isnt distracted driving?
they're
Granite_StateBut...........why then do people think its fine to drive stoned, or really high? You are still under the influence. You are still going to get a DUI if pulled over (though its far harder to prove). Shit I can't count how many times Ive been driving stoned and zoned out. Albeit I am far better at it now and certainly don't do it as often but by that same rationale you are still putting people at risk. Nowadays when I smoke and drive Ill maybe smoke a 1 hitter or small bowl, enough to take the edge off but not to the point where Im fucking high. Still though, I'm admitting to the double standard, but with these idiot drivers, driving stoned can be just as dangerous, yet its far more publicly accepted (anyone in this thread that smokes weed has probably driven high at least once). Thoughts?
Sketchy3sSo what are you saying? Yes distracted driving is bad. But you have failed to actually present an argument not to mention that this was originally about drunk driving.
TBK_ski.coAnd yet they have enough cops to station down the road from practically any major bar? Ill admit, I have made really bad decisions while under the influence. I have driven, and been a passenger in cars where either the driver, or I was severely inebriated, several times to the point where we were crashing multiple times. And yet the only time I ever came close to getting a DUI was when I drove through a checkpoint. If a cop was kind, and gave me a free breathalyzer test coming out of a bar, I would gladly take a cab and worry about getting my car in the morning later. I hope "constant fear of getting caught and strict penalties" is not your viewpoint on everything in life. Laws were not meant to be here as a way to throw people in jail, and fine them. Their purpose is to protect the general public, and yet it seems they go way beyond that to the point that they are fucking the general public. I don't thing speeding is comparable, as that is deliberately reckless. All these radar ticket cameras and red light cams that have been popping up, are doing absolutely nothing to better public safety, and have even been proven to cause more rear end collisions. Its all a business, they just want to make money wherever they can. For most cops, at this point I don't even feel like they care about helping people do the right thing, everything is a trap with a fine.
El_Barto.You bash anyone who drives distracted yet you admit to eating while driving which is distracted driving. Are you retarded?
Shut up and go be 17 with your stupid opinions elsewhere
Sketchy3sYet again fails to bring up another argument but continue to spew shit through a keyboard. What I was bashing earlier was drunk driving you absolute fucking idiot. Do I bash on people who drive drunk and distractedly. Yes because I have multiple family deaths because of it. Have I eaten while driving. Yes. Did I ever say once that it wasn't bad because I did it. No. So I don't know what the hell your trying to say. For real all you just did was point out the blatantly obvious and then say it was retarded. You didn't say a single constructive thing. Quit trying to act like you know shit when in reality you are just saying things to say them because poor little you feels insecure about his own problems. And opinions? All you do is say your opinion you stupid hypocrite.
And oooh shit shut up your 17 man that hits deep
plyswthsqrrlsyou are fucking stupid
SFBso you are 17.
