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CoreyTrevorThey are the one profession on earth I couldn't think deserves tips any more
UglyboyOkay maybe in America where your wages are nothing. But in Canada it's different. 10% for shit,15% standard and anything over that for great service.
And to answer your question, I've never worked I a service industry.
PoLaRpEaKI live in Canada and I think 20% is pretty standard, 10% if it was god awful service, 15% if it was pretty bad, 25-30% if it was good.
RudyGarmischThere are 36 jobs in the US that typically get tips in the US - can anyone name them all?
What about discrimination in tipping? There are number out studies that show that more physically attractive people get more tips, regardless of the service. how many employers have you that that judge how good you are at your job by the amount of tips each employee nets? I still tup, cause it's better than getting shit in your food or having this debate every time I go out, but the systems days are numbered - just waiting for that court case.
CoreyTrevorif you hate tipping then don't go out.
RudyGarmischThere are 36 jobs in the US that typically get tips in the US - can anyone name them all?
What about discrimination in tipping? There are number out studies that show that more physically attractive people get more tips, regardless of the service. how many employers have you that that judge how good you are at your job by the amount of tips each employee nets? I still tup, cause it's better than getting shit in your food or having this debate every time I go out, but the systems days are numbered - just waiting for that court case.
MicrocosmDang my cuts are $40 and I really like her work. I always give $5 except around the holidays I double that. With all the tips being thrown around, this thread makes me feel like an ass for only giving $5..
PoLaRpEaKWhy does a man need a $40 hair cut? My cut takes 15 minutes... I'm not paying a barber $160 an hour before expenses. That's outrageous.
PoLaRpEaKWhy does a man need a $40 hair cut? My cut takes 15 minutes... I'm not paying a barber $160 an hour before expenses. That's outrageous.
californiagrowndepends on the area. when i was in SF i would go into the Castro and get a killer cut for like $15. Up here in the seattle suburbs you are gonna pay 2-3 times that for the same quality. quality being the barber knowing how to work with your head and face to make the cut complement it. there is an art to it.
theabortionatorWhat about surgeons? "Hey there, thanks for not fixing me up, not killing me, and not harvesting any organs while I was passed the fuck out on your little metal bench. Here's a 5er for your troubles. Thanks again!"
MicrocosmMan growing up the first 18 years of my life my dad would cut my hair in the tub. He's a great guy, but no barber. So fuckit if I have the disposable income now to pay for a nice cut from someone who knows their craft I'll do it. She's gotten to know my hair, and imo makes it look bomb. I bounced around cheaper places in college and the cuts ranged from decent to real shitty, with no consistency.
That's crazy, I'd assume SF would be way more expensive based on everything else in that city. I'm not familiar with Seattle prices though.
Definitely agree, depending on your hair shit can get complicated
californiagrownIts supply and demand. The Castro is the gay capital of the world so there are a lot of dudes demanding really good haircuts haha. Pro-tip, if you live in a big city, go get your haircut in the gay neighborhood.
Out in the burbs, most dudes are relatively content with mediocre cuts for $15 every 6 weeks.
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pow_pow~the haircut costs $30 why the fuck should you tip. like seriously. his job is to give you a good haircut.
theabortionatorIt's just stupid. I should be tipping the chef(directly) than the person bringing me my food.
Oh sweet, you fucked up my order, never asked me how the food was or refilled my drink, tell me more about how you deserve a 20%+ tip.
Places should pay their employees a fitting wage. If patrons want to tip why the hell not, if not, just as good.
It's fucking ridiculous that we live in a place where people will get butthurt because somebody wanted to simply pay the listed price for a service and not supplement their income.
It would be sick if restaurants listed the price, and that's what it was.
I don't see how me not tipping makes me a bad person, yet the employer paying them $2.50 an hour or whatever is completely fine. Seems pretty backwards to me.
I'm going to start tipping the garbage man. Always seemed pretty rad. They pick up the shit in front of my house, have to deal with the smell of garbage yet always smiling. I think that guy deserves my tip more than some chick who learned how to open a bottle of beer.
theabortionatorIt's just stupid. I should be tipping the chef(directly) than the person bringing me my food.
Oh sweet, you fucked up my order, never asked me how the food was or refilled my drink, tell me more about how you deserve a 20%+ tip.
Places should pay their employees a fitting wage. If patrons want to tip why the hell not, if not, just as good.
It's fucking ridiculous that we live in a place where people will get butthurt because somebody wanted to simply pay the listed price for a service and not supplement their income.
It would be sick if restaurants listed the price, and that's what it was.
I don't see how me not tipping makes me a bad person, yet the employer paying them $2.50 an hour or whatever is completely fine. Seems pretty backwards to me.
I'm going to start tipping the garbage man. Always seemed pretty rad. They pick up the shit in front of my house, have to deal with the smell of garbage yet always smiling. I think that guy deserves my tip more than some chick who learned how to open a bottle of beer.
shocker611And no, I think tipping is 100% the way to do it. Both waiters and business owners are significantly better off with tipping instead of included gratuity.
no_steezeI can't stand it when places force you to select from 3 incredibly high tip options. I tip 18-20% off the pre-tax subtotal that doesn't include alcohol, since that's what you should tip off, so it's really annoying when places offer you something ridiculous like 20%, 25% or 30% as your options off the final total. I'm not an asshole about tipping, I just don't want to waste my money on shit that is completely unnecessary. I've worked shitty jobs where tips are awesome, and I always try to help other people out, but let it be on my own terms
pow_pow~surely places are not forced to make you tip those amounts?
pow_pow~you are brainwashed, tipping is a way for corporate entities to pass one of their main expenses, wages, onto the consumer. therefore increasing profits. if a business cant afford to pay employees and they have to rely on tips, you need to learn 2 business.
PoLaRpEaKI live in Canada and I think 20% is pretty standard, 10% if it was god awful service, 15% if it was pretty bad, 25-30% if it was good.
shocker611Increases in wages would simply increase prices, it's that simple. What tips do, however, is keep some money from going to the government. I would rather small businesses thrive, service employees thrive, and have no difference to consumers, then to have a bunch of money going to the gov.
pow_pow~surely places are not forced to make you tip those amounts?
shocker611Increases in wages would simply increase prices, it's that simple. What tips do, however, is keep some money from going to the government. I would rather small businesses thrive, service employees thrive, and have no difference to consumers, then to have a bunch of money going to the gov.
pow_pow~prices wouldnt increase, profits for the business would decrease slightly. literally every other country in the world has this figured out.
theabortionatorIt's just stupid. I should be tipping the chef(directly) than the person bringing me my food. .[/QUOTE}
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there are other sides to it though. here in whistler we get a ton of aussies coming through that've never heard of tipping. say a group comes in and doesn't leave a tip for a $400 table, now that server has to pay out the bartender and bussers' tips based off of the $400 bill. now that server has lost money by serving a table. this obviously all has to do with the system in place though and is just how its done where i work.
i always tip at coffee shops after ordering some espresso. however i normally do not tip bartenders, if i ask for some complex cocktail then sure, but a dollar for opening a beer? nah
250rIt's just stupid. I should be tipping the chef(directly) than the person bringing me my food. .[/QUOTE}
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there are other sides to it though. here in whistler we get a ton of aussies coming through that've never heard of tipping. say a group comes in and doesn't leave a tip for a $400 table, now that server has to pay out the bartender and bussers' tips based off of the $400 bill. now that server has lost money by serving a table. this obviously all has to do with the system in place though and is just how its done where i work.
i always tip at coffee shops after ordering some espresso. however i normally do not tip bartenders, if i ask for some complex cocktail then sure, but a dollar for opening a beer? nah
cool_nameWhat about a dollar for working on a Friday night so you can go out?
cool_nameWhat about a dollar for working on a Friday night so you can go out?
cool_nameReally, prices wouldn't increase?
Profits would decrease slightly?
How do you think that is even slightly correct, take 6 waiters, there wage goes from 3 to 9, say they work an average of 7 hours that would be almost 90,000 more dollars the resturant would have to pay it's staff, I think most people would agree that is more than slight decrease in profits
250ri work friday nights all the time, start giving me some tips too and ill think about it
pow_pow~its their job. when they took they job they knew they would have to work friday night. hundreds of thousands of people work friday nights because its their job.
pow_pow~staff are part of the business. the business should pay them. every other business has this worked out fine. its just restaurants being greedy.
if prices go up even $1 per dish that would cover servers wages. 10 dishes an hour per server is completely reasonable. then the business is covering the wages and not the fucking customers.
cool_nameSo prices will have to go up...
pow_pow~prices wouldnt increase, profits for the business would decrease slightly. literally every other country in the world has this figured out.
pow_pow~no a $1 rise that would easily cover staff wages means the customer is paying less because they dont have to tip
VinnieFyou tip too much.
cool_nameWell it may help cover the waitstaff, better add on an extra 5% to every bill to be tipped back to the back of house staff as well, oh and about another dollar to be tipped to the bartender, seing that the resturant isn't always operating at full capacity we better increases prices another dollar to cover the times the resturant is empty as well and we aren't making serving enough plates to cover the loss in revenue.
Oh look at that, the meal now costs around 15-25% more than it did before, around the same amount any self respecting person would tip.
shocker611Increases in wages would simply increase prices, it's that simple. What tips do, however, is keep some money from going to the government. I would rather small businesses thrive, service employees thrive, and have no difference to consumers, then to have a bunch of money going to the gov.
SKI.INGYou're almost arguing our point for us now. So we have to tip in order to cover for slow hours that the manager hasn't worked out a proper shift schedule for? Why don't you go tip all the lift operators out in Tahoe? Because of the drought the resorts are empty, some closed, and it's all because you're cheap ass didn't tip them. If you can' afford to tip, don't ski, right? They're there working a weekend, for low wages, so you can ski, better tip. See how it doesn't add up. Like someone said, it's their JOB. A bit hyperbolic, but my point still stands that the restaurant business gets a free pass for some reason, and other services don't.
