Let's list the reasons and ways that American's are extra special and should be treated as such.

Lord_Byronmy entire family is from haiti lol.

And we're damn proud we're the only nation built by slaves.

Annndddd most of my haitian family kind of hates white people.

So have fun helping a bunch of people that don't want white pity, and have a rich past that celebrates overthrowing your pail-skinned loser ancestors.

cobra_commanderThe United States population pays for the rest of the (western) world's defense and healthcare.

cobra_commandergot witchcraft going for you too.

pow_pow~woah woah what? you definitely do not.

Lord_Byronand government corruption, and drug smuggling, and rampant addiction, and a very high murder rate, and a high rape rate, a low literacy rate,.........

its pretty much Africa, but closer, and with more french!(kind of its not really french at all)

DingoSeanAnd cholera. Lots of cholera. Thanks, UN....

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/764994/Investigating-a-Mysterious-Cholera-Outbreak-in-Haiti--Correspondent-Confidential

Lord_Byronwhite people fuck everything up

DingoSeanNepalese are white? lol.

pow_pow~woah woah what? you definitely do not.

DingoSeanYeah, I don't know what he's talking about either...

I mean, the USA provides a ton of relief aid and a lot of defense to a lot of areas, but shit, so does a massive host of other nations.

cobra_commanderDefense: the rest of NATO would get rolled up by Putin if he decided to annex Poland or Latvia, followed by the rest. US Military power is the only reason NATO means anything. Same for PAC states. Taiwan is still Taiwan because of The US military's ability to flex against China. Same for why Vietnam, Australia and the Philipeans are not getting bullied by China.

As for medical care: Other countries' with single payer systems threaten US pharma with ignoring their patents unless the drug producer is willing to sell to the single payer system for a price somewhere slightly over the price of producing the dose, but well under the cost of development. The US healthcare user (and those who get private care elsewhere) is left to pay the difference. You are welcome. Same for other treatments. Most are developed in the US, and then exported elsewhere. Vary little medical progress had been developed under socialist/single payer systems. Most has been done in the US.

pow_pow~Health care: youre right, a lot of development is done in the US because you get absolutely ripped in the ass by healthcare fees. whats the going price for a saline iv bag? i saw some numbers recently, i think it was around $6-700? and it costs $1.05 to make. $700 for a bag of salt water. keep thinking your system is good and that youre so far ahead of the world..

we get free healthcare, including surgeries. sure we pay for it in a taxes, i think its about 2.5% of our tax. but youre going to pay that money in tax anyway. so its nothing. i simply cannot understand how free healthcare doesnt seem like a good thing to americans.

also another thing i dont understand that is ridiculous, why on earth do you not include taxes in your prices? dont give me the 'each state has different taxes bullshit'.

Lord_Byronyou didnt even dispute his claim that we create all of the medical technology you benefit from for very cheap, and that is the reason it costs so much.

I'm not saying he's right, but you didnt even address the biggest thing he's claiming.

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pow_pow~no, the reason it costs so much is because your government doesnt subsudise healthcare like our countries do. so yes, i did address it.

pow_pow~Defence: australia is not in nato,

Lord_Byronlol.

He is saying the only reason you governments can afford to subsidize your health care with modern technology is $700 saline bags.

If we had subsidized healthcare, no one would be putting up the real money to develop healthcare like we have been.

I actually happen to disagree with him, and more closely agree with you and some kind of federalized healthcare, but you're doing a god awful job arguing it.

pow_pow~if you had subsidised healthcare it would mean your government pays the difference for your $700 saline bags. therefore your developments would go unhindered.

pow_pow~if you had subsidised healthcare it would mean your government pays the difference for your $700 saline bags. therefore your developments would go unhindered.

Lord_Byronlol. You don't even understand what he's saying.

Ill make his argument easier for you to understand.
The only reason developments happen is to create profit. Our government does basically nill in research and develop medicine and healthcare technology. (supposedly)

The companies are seeking to get a normal, fair return on their investment in developing the healthcare, so they go, "Hey world, how would you like to pay this price for all this life saving tech we just made???!??

World replies, "Yes we'd like it, but we have government funded healthcare and can't afford the prices that would actually give you a decent profit and incentive to develop new tech, but you should sell it to us cheap anyways or all our people will be sick."

Company than says, "Well shit, if thats the only option, deal.No profits from anyone. We need to make enough money to keep making this shit, where can we make up our losses? Oh thats right, America! We can charge the insurance industry and in turn the patients to keep funding our research and development for the whole world"

He is saying if we adopted a government run healthcare system, we too would fall into the group that can't pay a profitable price for medicine, stalling development for the entire world.

pow_pow~i completely understand what youre both saying. you are letting companies dictate your health system. there are many breakthroughs with government funded systems.

Lord_Byronoops wrong gif


here ill just post a patriotic pic instead.

Lord_Byronname a few.

pow_pow~Adrenaline (epinephrine): Japan

Artificial heart: USA

Aspirin: Germany

Beta blockers: UK

Bone marrow compatibility test: Canada

Cardiac pacemaker: UK

CAT scan: UK

Clinical trials: UK)

Contact lenses: Italy

Electrocardiogram Japan

Fetal monitor: Germany

Heart lung machine: USA

Heart transplant: South Africa

Helicobacter pylori: Australia

Hepatitis B vaccine: USA

HIV: France

In vitro fertilization: UK

Insulin: Canada

Medical ultrasound: Austria Scotland

Nuclear medicine: Japan

Pasteurization: France

Penicillin: Scotland

Polio vaccine: USA

Smallpox vaccine: UK

Spray-on-skin: Australia

Structure of DNA: UK USA

Surgery: Andalusia

Tuberculosis vaccine: France

Viagra: UK

Xray: Germany

Lord_Byronnow multiply that by 5 and you have america's contribution.

Granite_State"America is a global leader in medical innovation. The US solely developed or contributed significantly to 9 of the top 10 most important medical innovations since 1975 as ranked by a 2001 poll of physicians, while the EU and Switzerland together contributed to five. Since 1966, Americans have received more Nobel Prizes in Medicine than the rest of the world combined. From 1989 to 2002, four times more money was invested in private biotechnology companies in America than in Europe."

Get off our dick

Lord_Byronwhile it's fucked that we have such a corrupt health care system, it does force innovation naturally.

Be thankful world. We got your back on this one too.

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Lord_Byronwhile it's fucked that we have such a corrupt health care system, it does force innovation naturally.

Be thankful world. We got your back on this one too.

DingoSeanDoes it? I'm pretty sure that healthcare progresses naturally, and if anything, is stifled by for-profit systems.

It doesn't make sense for a for-profit system to even try to develop better drugs than what's already available or more financially efficient techniques... and additionally, it doesn't even benefit the consumer a lot of the time, especially when drugs are marketed in such corrupt ways (just look into the way prescription drug sales reps do their jobs... it's fucked up!)

I mean, fuck, just look at all the money that drug companies put towards keeping marijuana illegal as a drug for so long... The last thing they want is a natural thing that people can grow at home that keeps them from buying their addictive prescription shit with crap side effects...

...also, this isn't an American problem - this is a global problem I'm talking about.

Lord_Byrongo back to russia

DingoSeanEw I'm not THAT white.

I'll go back to Kazakhstan though.

DingoSeanEw I'm not THAT white.

SFBthis just in, being white is gross.

Lord_Byronsame thing.

DingoSeanTotes. Just look at the presidents.

Kazakhstan's looks more asian than Japan's...

Lord_Byronhe looks just as greedy.

The IOC must love him too.