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Negativity from racers

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Lonely
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Honestly I don't understand why I have gotten so much negativity from racers just for being a park skier. I'm not saying all racers are this way but nearly all of them believe that their type of skiing is the best. Why is this? Aren't we all just doing what we enjoy?
Mar 16 2015 1:08PM
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rozboon
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I think the parents and coaches need to shoulder a bit of the blame here. A lot of racer kids basically get told that they are superior to everyone else and so they act like that. I was going up a chair once with a coach and a couple of kids and they spent the whole ride up laughing at other skiers technique. I mean yeah as a coaching method it might make sense to point out examples of different types of skiing but these guys were just being bitchy dicks.
But you can't tar them all with the same brush - I have a cousin who is a top level racer and he's completely chill. In fact sometimes I think he's kinda embarrassed about the attitude of some racers and the way they treat other skiers.
Mar 18 2015 8:40PM
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Titus69
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rozboonI think the parents and coaches need to shoulder a bit of the blame here. A lot of racer kids basically get told that they are superior to everyone else and so they act like that. I was going up a chair once with a coach and a couple of kids and they spent the whole ride up laughing at other skiers technique. I mean yeah as a coaching method it might make sense to point out examples of different types of skiing but these guys were just being bitchy dicks.
But you can't tar them all with the same brush - I have a cousin who is a top level racer and he's completely chill. In fact sometimes I think he's kinda embarrassed about the attitude of some racers and the way they treat other skiers.



Yeah parents with racer kids spoil the shit out of them, they get them 3 pairs of skis, 1 to slip the course, another for the race and then another to ski down on after the race. Then sometimes the racer parents turn into their own kids and get pissed at gapers and flip out at kids jokingly cross the course. I know cool race kids and then there are some who need to check their attitude.

Coaches making fun of kids is immature as hell especially when theyre past a certain age.
Mar 18 2015 8:56PM
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suup
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Racers think that park skiing isnt "real" skiing, We park skiers dont think that racing is'nt "real" skiing. So What the fuck is real skiing?
Might sound cliche but I dont think skiing is even a sport. Becuase no one is better than anyone.Some peole have a better style or technique Its an "art" where everyone has a uniqe style. Whether your touring the BC, bashing gates or hiking the park.
Its like classical music enthusiast saying hip hop isnt music, or vise versa.
The real competition is to have the most fun.
/end rant
Mar 18 2015 11:04PM
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iH8pow
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Skiers can no doubt go down a race course faster, have better form around gates and likely all around the mountain. But can they ski switch, hit jumps and rails with style, or huck the shit off of cliffs? I always consider all this when they act like better skiers. but then again, my whole life is the game of GNAR and I talk shit all day on the mountain, so I'm not one to talk for the pot calling the kettle black.
Mar 19 2015 3:27AM
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Big_Mtn
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skisocksRacers think that park skiing isnt "real" skiing, We park skiers dont think that racing is'nt "real" skiing. So What the fuck is real skiing?
Might sound cliche but I dont think skiing is even a sport. Becuase no one is better than anyone.Some peole have a better style or technique Its an "art" where everyone has a uniqe style. Whether your touring the BC, bashing gates or hiking the park.
Its like classical music enthusiast saying hip hop isnt music, or vise versa.
The real competition is to have the most fun.
/end rant


Whatever Tanner Hall says is real skiing... Is real skiing.
Mar 19 2015 3:33AM
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Titus69
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CoreyTrevorSkiers can no doubt go down a race course faster, have better form around gates and likely all around the mountain. But can they ski switch, hit jumps and rails with style, or huck the shit off of cliffs? I always consider all this when they act like better skiers. but then again, my whole life is the game of GNAR and I talk shit all day on the mountain, so I'm not one to talk for the pot calling the kettle black.


I agree with what you said but I give pros credit for skiing down an insanely steep and icey run going over 50mph
Mar 19 2015 6:57AM
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KyloSend
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ADRIA-T.PIMPRace courses and terrain parks are both artificial constructs. People have a whole mountain open to them and they lock themselves into small sections of it for large parts of their ski lives. Then they meet someone else who skis another small section of the mountain (the park) and they put out hate. You'd think they'd have more in common they do in animosity, but I'm sure a lot of racers should/could ski park pretty well if they tried but have been made to believe it's inferior (and vice/versa with park skiers going into racing.)

Check out Slalom Tokyo Drift if you want to see vids of racing falls (there's some gnarly shit.) Personally, if I was skiing in some area and I was more concerned about falling and how to avoid it, then I'd come to the conclusion that the area wasn't right for me.


The thing is, though, there's nothing you need to know about racing (In GS anyway) that you don't already know from just regularly skiing and making turns on trails. I joined the race team going into high school :(you have to do a sport every season) and got right into it. The coaches taught me literally nothing I didn't know and it doesn't improve my skiing noticeably. Someone who just races all the time doesn't have even close to the overall skiing ability as someone who continually laps park and whose only normal trail experience is whatever leads to the park. Not to mention most freestylers have far more than this, often competing moguls as well (at least in the experience of Me and all of the kids in my group ages 10-13). The jumping/short-turning ability learned from these makes most freestylers better glades/big mountain skiiers than racers are. Any freestyler can ski fast and make big turns but you can't learn a cork 7 by butt-tucking and whacking poles all day.

(rant over)
Mar 19 2015 7:42AM
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Lonely
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This is just my .02$ but honestly what makes a good skier is versatility. I'm not saying you're a bad skier for focusing on only one type, but don't hate on others. The problem is not that they are racers but the mentality behind it. As stated I feel like parents can be a big part of the problem. Racing is expensive and that is why the majority of racers are usually pushed by their parents who bought them their gear. " I paid a shit ton off money for you so you better race good!" Is passed down and then they begin to believe that they are better/more important than everybody else, like entitlement. This is just how the mentality and to a certain extent it's in park skiing to, but in the end were all just skiing to enjoy ourselves right?
Mar 19 2015 9:35AM
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Yungin
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kryptonicWho gives a flying fuck. FUCK ski racers honestly. They literally (atleast where I'm from) think they own the mountain and are really cocky. Not gonna lie, not all of them are bad but most of them im not a fan of. I could not care less about ski racing though. To me skiing in the park and all mountain even skiing in general is about having freedom and going your own path and just enjoying it. Ski racing you have all these stupid rules, things you can and can't do, and to me that's not skiing sorry. But if ski racers aren't nice to you tell them to take their gay liatard suits and go fuck themselves.


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Mar 19 2015 10:29PM
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TRVP_ANGEL
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These racers jumped me the other day in their tight one piece G suit. I was dressed a little too loose they said, disrespecting the virgin mary lindsay vonn and I need to watch where I'd be turning next time I'm on the hill. They beat me with their Fischer poles and I was crying the whole time :'( theres so much blood now on my level1 tee that tide will never wash off. They said that if I ever told the police they'd find where I live and abduct me and then use me as a gate for the super G race. They also told me how rich their dad was and how my lawyer can never beat up their family lawyer. I'm scared guys, please help >:(

**This post was edited on Nov 15th 2018 at 2:35:20pm
Nov 15 2018 2:34PM
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LukeTheWaffle
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TRVP_ANGELThey beat me with their Fischer poles and I was crying the whole time :'(

**This post was edited on Nov 15th 2018 at 2:35:20pm

*Leki poles
Nov 15 2018 2:47PM
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BigPurpleSkiSuit
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Saw this at snowbird preseason earlier. This is why everyone hates ski racers in a nutshell
Nov 15 2018 2:59PM
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SEABURN
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suupMight sound cliche but I dont think skiing is even a sport. Becuase no one is better than anyone.


gonna have to disagree. Park Skiing is a subjectively judged sport with numerical criteria. Racing is very much a sport, all about them times.

Park skiing & Racing both have assholes, like any competitive sport. They're different, any reasonable person would say both are difficult and impressive at the highest level. I have a ton of respect for people who have excelled at both, like Jon Olsson.

Does anyone know of a skier that did both at the same time? Jon did freestyle, then Racing... anyone who was at the top of both at the same time?
Nov 15 2018 4:50PM
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suup
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SEABURNgonna have to disagree. Park Skiing is a subjectively judged sport with numerical criteria. Racing is very much a sport, all about them times.

Park skiing & Racing both have assholes, like any competitive sport. They're different, any reasonable person would say both are difficult and impressive at the highest level. I have a ton of respect for people who have excelled at both, like Jon Olsson.

Does anyone know of a skier that did both at the same time? Jon did freestyle, then Racing... anyone who was at the top of both at the same time?


how come Im the best skier on the mountain then
Nov 15 2018 10:58PM
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SEABURN
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suupMight sound cliche but I dont think skiing is even a sport. Becuase no one is better than anyone.


suuphow come Im the best skier on the mountain then


sure... you're also contradicting yourself.
Nov 15 2018 11:08PM
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Lonely
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Wow what a throwback
Nov 16 2018 12:09AM
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skiguy04
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Idk I like ski race honeys don’t talk to dudes so wouldn’t know what y’all are experiencing
Nov 17 2018 2:51PM
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