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lcoopman"Concerning murder victims for whom race was known, 50.0 percent were black, 46.0 percent were white, and 2.6 percent were of other races. Race was unknown for 175 victims. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 2.)"
plyswthsqrrlsMan seriously you need to stop spewing the same "facts" into every post (quotations because I've yet to see a source, although I'm sure you have one). Yes, unarmed people of EVERY race are shot by police, and many of them aren't deserving. Michael Brown was NOT one of those cases. You're trying to spin the information from the case to support your own views.
I never even mentioned your relationship with the police, although it doesn't sounds like a particularly good one. I'm also willing to bet you have never reached for a police officer's weapon during a physical altercation, and am also willing to bet you never charged at a police officer after being told to freeze.
Subduing a complying suspect is different than dealing with someone who very clearly has ignored every instruction given to them on top of being physically abusive towards you.
You really need to be just a little more objective, and slightly less close-minded. Granted, I'm also defending my point of view, but at the same time I'm acknowledging opposing opinions and giving credit where its due. You, on the other hand, refuse to listen to anyone who doesn't just agree with you
lcoopmanWhere's the fbi source that you said you got the info from? Propublica really doesn't seem like a solid source and never a site I've heard of.
They got that info from the FBI Supplemental report. Check their sources, Im not sifting through all that info. Also, the propublica article was quoted on CNN, so they are quite credible.
plyswthsqrrlsMan seriously you need to stop spewing the same "facts" into every post (quotations because I've yet to see a source, although I'm sure you have one). Yes, unarmed people of EVERY race are shot by police, and many of them aren't deserving. Michael Brown was NOT one of those cases. You're trying to spin the information from the case to support your own views.
I never even mentioned your relationship with the police, although it doesn't sounds like a particularly good one. I'm also willing to bet you have never reached for a police officer's weapon during a physical altercation, and am also willing to bet you never charged at a police officer after being told to freeze.
Subduing a complying suspect is different than dealing with someone who very clearly has ignored every instruction given to them on top of being physically abusive towards you.
You really need to be just a little more objective, and slightly less close-minded. Granted, I'm also defending my point of view, but at the same time I'm acknowledging opposing opinions and giving credit where its due. You, on the other hand, refuse to listen to anyone who doesn't just agree with you
it's just the argument against Mike Brown is all based on the word of the man who killed him and the people who defended that man. the overwhleming majority of witnesses at the scene said Mike was shot with his hands up. this was even tweeted by a witness within 2 minutes of his death. Darren and his key witnesses, who have already admitted they were never there, say the exact opposite. so if you're expecting me to be objective, how can i when every "fact" you guys spew is the word of the man who didn't even go on trial for this, the man who lied about this multiple times, and the story that was changed multiple times after new evidence continued to reveal that it was probably total bullshit. so yeah, maybe i've got absolutely no faith in Darren Wilson, but I have yet to be given a single reason why i should.
if you really want to know, i have been stomped on, beaten, tazed, and had my bones broken my police officers, and yet, i don't have a criminal record, and most of those officers apologized profusely after realizing they'd gone TOO FAR (not even as far as pulling their guns out). Darren Wilson shot an unarmed kid to death in the street in broad daylight when he knew he was unarmed, and he's somehow managed to justify that in not only his head, but yours too. To put it more clearly, there are American soldiers who are not only ashamed of the way the police handle things, but are dismayed at the display of force they're putting on by walking around in armour with guns and pointing them at unarmed citizens, while flanked by vehicles that would be better put to use in a war. if what Darren did, if what happens every 28 hours isn't considered excessive force, then hey guess what, it's gonna keep happening every 28 hours, and it has, because excessive force has become an obsolete term in the police state.
k-robit's just the argument against Mike Brown is all based on the word of the man who killed him and the people who defended that man. the overwhleming majority of witnesses at the scene said Mike was shot with his hands up. this was even tweeted by a witness within 2 minutes of his death. Darren and his key witnesses, who have already admitted they were never there, say the exact opposite. so if you're expecting me to be objective, how can i when every "fact" you guys spew is the word of the man who didn't even go on trial for this, the man who lied about this multiple times, and the story that was changed multiple times after new evidence continued to reveal that it was probably total bullshit. so yeah, maybe i've got absolutely no faith in Darren Wilson, but I have yet to be given a single reason why i should.
I'm not asking you to believe Darren Wilson, but why won't you believe the independent autposy report carried out by three separate medical examiners? The ones who all seem to report that Brown was shot while charging or lunging at Wilson, and ultimately concluded that he did not have his hands in the air. Oh, and he was never shot in the back
I'd also like to read the stories that Wilson apparently had changed three times, because I've only read the one story that was presented to the grand jury. Witnesses are a different thing, all of the witnesses stories changed, every single one of them.
plyswthsqrrlsI'm not asking you to believe Darren Wilson, but why won't you believe the independent autposy report carried out by three separate medical examiners? The ones who all seem to report that Brown was shot while charging or lunging at Wilson, and ultimately concluded that he did not have his hands in the air. Oh, and he was never shot in the back
I'd also like to read the stories that Wilson apparently had changed three times, because I've only read the one story that was presented to the grand jury. Witnesses are a different thing, all of the witnesses stories changed, every single one of them.
fine dude, since you can't find it yourself, and since you still think it's possible for the entry-exit wounds on Mike's arm to have happened when he didn't have it way up in the air,
every piece of evidence, reminder that this does not even include a fucking photo, reminder that this did not go to trial, reminder even when you accidentally hit someone with your car, you will be charged with manslaughter (unless maybe you're a white police officer and the victim is black, but i don't think it's ever happened), http://apps.stlpublicradio.org/ferguson-project/evidence.html
and yknow, since you guys simply cannot stop repeating that one lie,
Did you even read this file? It literally says that there is no evidence to prosecute and that Wilson acted within the law. So there goes that argument.
And the rest of what you posted was either before any of the findings came out (from August with the WSJ article) or is from random conspiracy theorist blogs/sites.
Even if Brown DID pay for his cigs or if he wasn't even at the convenience store at all, it doesn't change the fact that he attacked a police officer, which is why he was killed. No one here is saying that because he robbed that store he deserved to die, what people are saying is that he assaulted a police officer and failed to respond to his commands (which, as an unarmed man, is a bad idea for ANYONE, regardless if it's an officer or otherwise). It seems to me that you are definitely reaching here, looking for anything that might even remotely support your argument. It also seems that you haven't even considered changing your point of view since the day Brown was killed.
plyswthsqrrlsDid you even read this file? It literally says that there is no evidence to prosecute and that Wilson acted within the law. So there goes that argument.
And the rest of what you posted was either before any of the findings came out (from August with the WSJ article) or is from random conspiracy theorist blogs/sites.
Even if Brown DID pay for his cigs or if he wasn't even at the convenience store at all, it doesn't change the fact that he attacked a police officer, which is why he was killed. No one here is saying that because he robbed that store he deserved to die, what people are saying is that he assaulted a police officer and failed to respond to his commands (which, as an unarmed man, is a bad idea for ANYONE, regardless if it's an officer or otherwise). It seems to me that you are definitely reaching here, looking for anything that might even remotely support your argument. It also seems that you haven't even considered changing your point of view since the day Brown was killed.
Arguing with you is making less and less sense
*picks one file out of dozens, doesn't actually read anything i posted, responds within minutes claiming that one random statement justifies there not even being a trial, doesn't look into sources before claiming they are conspiracy sites, doesn't consider the fact that black kids don't just go around attacking police officers, doesn't consider the fact that Brown was never given demands*
if the police in Ferguson would just do what every cop who doesn't want to lose their job does, and put a fucking dashcam on their cars, we wouldn't be having this conversation. but for some odd reason, police in Ferguson think cameras aren't worth having.
k-robif the police in Ferguson would just do what every cop who doesn't want to lose their job does, and put a fucking dashcam on their cars, we wouldn't be having this conversation. but for some odd reason, police in Ferguson think cameras aren't worth having.
The same should go for exam rooms in hospitals. Many conflicts could be resolved or avoided completely.
k-rob*picks one file out of dozens, doesn't actually read anything i posted, responds within minutes claiming that one random statement justifies there not even being a trial, doesn't look into sources before claiming they are conspiracy sites, doesn't consider the fact that black kids don't just go around attacking police officers, doesn't consider the fact that Brown was never given demands*
*picks the only official document (from the DOJ) you posted, reads the conclusions, notices they completely refute everything you're saying*
Dude you picked that file thinking it would help you and it blew up in your face, you clearly didn't even bother reading the thing.
I'm sure daily kos and "americans against the tea party" are definitely the most reputable of sources, forgive me if I dismiss. The one legitimate document you posted completely goes against what you're saying, and now you're just back-pedalling
And I guess the reason I'm responding so fast is because you're just recycling the exact same articles you used in the other three threads about this you tried to take over.
But you know what man, I'm sure you're absolutely right. The police officer attempting to arrest a suspect never issued any demands, that's how it always goes.
Did those marks (however negligible they may be) just appear on Wilson's face by divine intervention? There was CLEARLY a physical altercation from within the police car, you are the only one refuting that and I can't understand why.
plyswthsqrrls*picks the only official document (from the DOJ) you posted, reads the conclusions, notices they completely refute everything you're saying*
Dude you picked that file thinking it would help you and it blew up in your face, you clearly didn't even bother reading the thing.
I'm sure daily kos and "americans against the tea party" are definitely the most reputable of sources, forgive me if I dismiss. The one legitimate document you posted completely goes against what you're saying, and now you're just back-pedalling
And I guess the reason I'm responding so fast is because you're just recycling the exact same articles you used in the other three threads about this you tried to take over.
But you know what man, I'm sure you're absolutely right. The police officer attempting to arrest a suspect never issued any demands, that's how it always goes.
Did those marks (however negligible they may be) just appear on Wilson's face by divine intervention? There was CLEARLY a physical altercation from within the police car, you are the only one refuting that and I can't understand why.
dude, you're the one not fucking reading. "official" is your definition. those autopsies are official. they all fucking state that Browns facial injuries were from WHEN HIS DEAD BODY FELL ON THE GROUND. maybe go take a second look before you start spewing the exact same shit that Darren did and claiming it refutes THE SAME FUCKING AUTOPSIES you've been saying prove Mike Brown charged Wilson, all of which don't? just because the grand jury ignored all the evidence and then said this was justified doesn't mean you can't take your own fucking eyes and look at it. i posted it, and you didn't read it. that's your problem.
i suppose it's also not worth mentioning that before Mike's death, a grand jury had NEVER indicted an officer for killing an unarmed black person, despite the fact that it happens almost every day. Grand Juries do not exist to indict officers, they exist for the opposite reason. duh.
k-robdude, you're the one not fucking reading. "official" is your definition. those autopsies are official. they all fucking state that Browns facial injuries were from WHEN HIS DEAD BODY FELL ON THE GROUND. maybe go take a second look before you start spewing the exact same shit that Darren did and claiming it refutes THE SAME FUCKING AUTOPSIES you've been saying prove Mike Brown charged Wilson, all of which don't? just because the grand jury ignored all the evidence and then said this was justified doesn't mean you can't take your own fucking eyes and look at it. i posted it, and you didn't read it. that's your problem.
Sorry, I guess the Department of Justice isn't an official source, but "Americans Against the Tea Party" is?
I'm talking about Wilson's injuries... Because they did exist however negligible they may have been.
You were arguing that Wilson shot Brown in the back, which is just absolutely 100% false.
I'm not sure what you're seeing in the autopsy report that no one else saw. I've read them, and I've read the DOJ report which YOU posted. Seems clear that there is no evidence supporting a case against Wilson... and the reason for that is simple, he did his job.
Again, just my opinion, and it's increasingly evident you are never going to concede at all.
plyswthsqrrlsSorry, I guess the Department of Justice isn't an official source, but "Americans Against the Tea Party" is?
I'm talking about Wilson's injuries... Because they did exist however negligible they may have been.
You were arguing that Wilson shot Brown in the back, which is just absolutely 100% false.
I'm not sure what you're seeing in the autopsy report that no one else saw. I've read them, and I've read the DOJ report which YOU posted. Seems clear that there is no evidence supporting a case against Wilson... and the reason for that is simple, he did his job.
Again, just my opinion, and it's increasingly evident you are never going to concede at all.
did not once say he was shot in the back. said he shot at from behind, but Darren, with all of his super police training, missed all of those shots. THEN and the witnesses say this was AFTER he was grazed or hit, he turned to face Wilson, raised his arms, and was killed with another six bullets, which actually managed to somehow hit him (probably because he had stopped running away).
k-robif you really want to know, i have been stomped on, beaten, tazed, and had my bones broken my police officers, and yet, i don't have a criminal record, and most of those officers apologized profusely after realizing they'd gone TOO FAR (not even as far as pulling their guns out). Darren Wilson shot an unarmed kid to death in the street in broad daylight when he knew he was unarmed, and he's somehow managed to justify that in not only his head, but yours too. To put it more clearly, there are American soldiers who are not only ashamed of the way the police handle things, but are dismayed at the display of force they're putting on by walking around in armour with guns and pointing them at unarmed citizens, while flanked by vehicles that would be better put to use in a war. if what Darren did, if what happens every 28 hours isn't considered excessive force, then hey guess what, it's gonna keep happening every 28 hours, and it has, because excessive force has become an obsolete term in the police state.
I was going to try and dispute this, though Im on your side, just for the sake of viewing this through the other sides perspective but I just can't. After scanning the internet for anything that can disprove the "death every 28 hours" I cant find one thing that justifies that. I came across countless websites that said the from 70% of the police precincts in the U.S. black people are arrested nearly 10 times that amount of any other race. Then I went to the FBI. In 2012 whites and blacks had nearly the same murder rate, with blacks being 1% higher. Rapes? Vast majority are white. Robbery? 10% higher for blacks. Assault, burglary, theft, auto theft, violent crime, forgery, fraud, vandalism, weapons possession, dui's, prostitution, disorderly conduct, vagrancy, etc. whites lead all other minorities in these and usually by a lot, 60% or greater. And yet a black male dies by police every 28 hours, where a white man, well that number is substantially lower, even though whites perpetuated FAR MORE crime. So whats with that? Shouldn't whites be getting killed by police more frequently then blacks? Idk, there is clearly a race problem in this country. I know this post doesnt relate to Ferguson, and is more in response to krob, but there seems to be a problem here...
k-robdid not once say he was shot in the back. said he shot at from behind, but Darren, with all of his super police training, missed all of those shots. THEN and the witnesses say this was AFTER he was grazed or hit, he turned to face Wilson, raised his arms, and was killed with another six bullets, which actually managed to somehow hit him (probably because he had stopped running away).
So how did Brown get gunshot residue on his hand/arm? Why was his blood in the vehicle?
And the witnesses you're referencing are the ones who have changed their story around three or four times, right? Those witnesses? The ones that were discredited?
How did he manage to get shot on the top of the head if he was not lunging / charging towards Wilson?
If he was not running / moving towards Wilson, then why are there any abrasions on his face at all after the fall? If he had just dropped from a standing / still position with his arms raised (like you said), then there wouldn't be any abrasions to his face, rather just blunt trauma from a fall.
Granite_StateI was going to try and dispute this, though Im on your side, just for the sake of viewing this through the other sides perspective but I just can't. After scanning the internet for anything that can disprove the "death every 28 hours" I cant find one thing that justifies that. I came across countless websites that said the from 70% of the police precincts in the U.S. black people are arrested nearly 10 times that amount of any other race. Then I went to the FBI. In 2012 whites and blacks had nearly the same murder rate, with blacks being 1% higher. Rapes? Vast majority are white. Robbery? 10% higher for blacks. Assault, burglary, theft, auto theft, violent crime, forgery, fraud, vandalism, weapons possession, dui's, prostitution, disorderly conduct, vagrancy, etc. whites lead all other minorities in these and usually by a lot, 60% or greater. And yet a black male dies by police every 28 hours, where a white man, well that number is substantially lower, even though whites perpetuated FAR MORE crime. So whats with that? Shouldn't whites be getting killed by police more frequently then blacks? Idk, there is clearly a race problem in this country. I know this post doesnt relate to Ferguson, and is more in response to krob, but there seems to be a problem here...
well, the DEA admittedly "doesn't even look into drugs in rich white areas", even knowing that in many cases drugs are prevalent in those areas (yeah that's right, the DEA knows NSers smoke weed, it's no secret). simply because, and this is paraphrasing, they know that if they started locking up rich white peoples kids, their parents wouldn't allow it, and the prohibition laws would be scrutinized and eventually abolished because they are unnecessary for the general population, but not for the DEA. so that's probably a good place to start, is the fact that federal drug agents knowingly only go after disadvantaged kids because they know there would be backlash if they went after people who can afford decent lawyers.
i imagine the police force works in not-so-different ways, however, i doubt we'll ever get such a statement from anybody who hasn't already retired.
plyswthsqrrlsSo how did Brown get gunshot residue on his hand/arm? Why was his blood in the vehicle?
And the witnesses you're referencing are the ones who have changed their story around three or four times, right? Those witnesses? The ones that were discredited?
How did he manage to get shot on the top of the head if he was not lunging / charging towards Wilson?
If he was not running / moving towards Wilson, then why are there any abrasions on his face at all after the fall? If he had just dropped from a standing / still position with his arms raised (like you said), then there wouldn't be any abrasions to his face, rather just blunt trauma from a fall.
didn't even watch the youtube video huh? a forensic pathologist explains it pretty well.
k-robdidn't even watch the youtube video huh? a forensic pathologist explains it pretty well.
Said absolutely nothing about the abrasions to Brown's face. Would love to hear an explanation for that. There are also plenty of forensic pathologists who would vouch for Wilson's story...
plyswthsqrrlsSaid absolutely nothing about the abrasions to Brown's face. Would love to hear an explanation for that. There are also plenty of forensic pathologists who would vouch for Wilson's story...
Wilson got paid over 500 grand for this, I have no doubt of his support. I believe Darren says he hit Mike, if you're wondering, but i might have to see an explanation for how a 6 foot 4 black man attacked a police officer to the point that he feared for his life, despite not receiving any immediately visible injuries, which upon further examination, were deemed too minor to even treat. i mean, if i was gonna hit a cop, i'd hit him harder than a small child would, and if i was gonna shoot a kid... nvm i wouldn't.
plyswthsqrrlsAnd the witnesses you're referencing are the ones who have changed their story around three or four times, right? Those witnesses? The ones that were discredited?
i was referring to the witnesses who were actually there, yes, but not Dorian Johnson.
well i got a little confused earlier when you were talking about Wilson's injuries, because he didn't have any. So i assumed you were talking about Mike, and in the autopsies, it is clearly stated that his facial injuries are most likely from his dead body hitting the ground. that's just what the autopsies say, i don't have any opinion on the evidence that was never actually well... collected... let alone examined.
k-robwell i got a little confused earlier when you were talking about Wilson's injuries, because he didn't have any. So i assumed you were talking about Mike, and in the autopsies, it is clearly stated that his facial injuries are most likely from his dead body hitting the ground. that's just what the autopsies say, i don't have any opinion on the evidence that was never actually well... collected... let alone examined.
And for those injuries to even be possible, he would have had to be carrying some forward momentum... as in, running, charging, lunging, whatever you want to call it. You don't scrape your face, chest, hip, arms, and hands from just falling to the ground from a stand still
a 7cm long scrape with NO forward momentum? Come on.
plyswthsqrrlsAnd for those injuries to even be possible, he would have had to be carrying some forward momentum... as in, running, charging, lunging, whatever you want to call it. You don't scrape your face, chest, hip, arms, and hands from just falling to the ground from a stand still
a 7cm long scrape with NO forward momentum? Come on.
look, guy, i just said i have no opinion. i'm not a professional. but you just quoted something from the autopsies i posted which do conclude that his facial injuries are from falling. now, if you wanna argue with those guys, get in touch.
k-roblook, guy, i just said i have no opinion. i'm not a professional. but you just quoted something from the autopsies i posted which do conclude that his facial injuries are from falling. now, if you wanna argue with those guys, get in touch.
So if you have no opinion, then why the fuck are you defending it? Yeah they said his injuries are from falling, which is true, you can fall while running, charging, lunging at someone. I don't need to argue with those guys, because their reports are accurate. I'm arguing with you because once again, you're trying to take over this thread, spouting off hate for all cops and using Michael Brown as a catalyst.
If you really have nothing left to contribute to the relevant questions being asked, then don't contribute at all. Stop trying to pass the buck on to the people who prepared the autopsy report which, half an hour ago, you were defending wholeheartedly.
plyswthsqrrlsSo if you have no opinion, then why the fuck are you defending it? Yeah they said his injuries are from falling, which is true, you can fall while running, charging, lunging at someone. I don't need to argue with those guys, because their reports are accurate. I'm arguing with you because once again, you're trying to take over this thread, spouting off hate for all cops and using Michael Brown as a catalyst.
If you really have nothing left to contribute to the relevant questions being asked, then don't contribute at all. Stop trying to pass the buck on to the people who prepared the autopsy report which, half an hour ago, you were defending wholeheartedly.
man i'm just providing the other side, calm yo tits. you guys are the ones asking me questions, if you don't like my answers then stop asking? wtf
also did i not just say i'm on a first-name basis with my local police? that means we don't hate each other, okay. the fact that they apologized for beating me up instead of shooting me to death means i have no reason to hate them. so don't tell me i hate all cops when i have never said that in my life. Michael Brown is dead and his death wasn't justified, straight up, you can argue that all you like but you're wrong, and you're not gonna change my mind by making statements about how one scrape on Mike Browns forehead equates to him running at a police officer who's already fired 6 bullets at him.
-benedettoCute, man. Just trying to make the point that none of us were there and people tend to choose sides then are stuck on that side without seriously thinking about hard about it. Then we become more divided based on some incident that is not even near a majority of us. I know we all will never agree but sometimes it really comes down to disguised racism no matter how much people are blind to it. Dick move on my part but I'd only assume you would take a white persons story 9.999 times out of 10 versus a black persons story. Again, poverty is a disgusting cycle, I cant help but circle back to this point.
Even if the cop was wrong, there are still many issues that need attention in this country. It's unfortunate people need to die for it to come to the surface.
i apologize for being the only one who posted any evidence or photos or articles in your thread. was not my intention to "take it over". guess it just kinda happened.
i apologize for being the only one who posted any evidence or photos or articles in your thread. was not my intention to "take it over". guess it just kinda happened.
What percentage of your post count is related to this topic? I gotta give you one though, you put a hell of a lot of effort into proving your point.
k-robi apologize for being the only one who posted any evidence or photos or articles in your thread. was not my intention to "take it over". guess it just kinda happened.
Oh my god. You tell me to let it go because you don't have any more answers and you do this shit again?
Congratulations, you proved that all of the witnesses were, in fact, incredible. None of their stories line up, and therefore none of them can be used as evidence.
You have still failed to answer the one most obvious fucking question there is: If Brown was "surrendering" with his hands up, why is it so completely 100% evident he was running at Wilson based solely on the fact that he had abrasions all over his body, which he physically could not have gotten while standing still?
You're absolutely unreal man. I actually did drop it because you ran out of answers, and you bring this shit back with more conjecture from some random blog sites.
The one actual official document you posted from the DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE (which you obviously didn't read) states that there is absolutely no case against Wilson because he did absolutely nothing wrong in the eyes of the law. He neutralized an imminent threat to his own person. Everything else you've posted has been an opinion piece form some obscure "news" site.
i don't know why you mad, it's not like you've read any of the stuff i posted anyways, you already indicated you couldn't take the time to watch a short youtube video or read the autopsies in their written context, and i was only trying to apologize.
k-robi don't know why you mad, it's not like you've read any of the stuff i posted anyways, you already indicated you couldn't take the time to watch a short youtube video or read the autopsies in their written context, and i was only trying to apologize.
No, I'm just not reading it this time around. I read most of those articles you posted in the first three threads on this subject. I did watch the video, and it was one man's opinion on the subject, there are countless forensic pathologists with all kinds of theories on this case. But again, the one official document which came from the Department of Justice (which you posted in defence of your argument) opposes your point of view and as such has to now be ignored? You still have yet to address
I have read the autopsies, and I have clearly outlined points in the autopsies which support Wilson's story (almost all of them). You still have yet to address the questions posed about the autopsy report, and it's been hours at this point. If you'd found something on one of your favourite "news" sites, you'd have plastered it all over this thread by now. You just like to dance around questions you can't answer by posting articles that don't have any factual relation to the case but are written with the sole purpose of influencing public opinion using conjecture and discredited witness testimony.
Only reason I'm getting irritated is because you are refusing to acknowledge any possible evidence which might mean you're wrong about Michael Brown. That's not even where this thread started off, you just always seem to bring it there. The thread was about two cops getting shot by protesters in Ferguson. And you turned it into the anti-Wilson pro-Brown shitshow again, but I'm to blame as well, I let it happen.
my first post about Ferguson in this thread was to correct someone on Darren's height. then i posted the pics of Darren's mosquito bites and was immediately called biased. then you started asking me about which government agencies are trustworthy. so yeah, it is all your fault.
k-robmy first post about Ferguson in this thread was to correct someone on Darren's height
k-robit's unfortunate that people who clearly had no interest in the autopsy cite it as evidence. it says he was shot through the arm while it was up, the entry/exit wounds prove that. not to mention that an unarmed kid is dead and the officer who shot him multiple times while he was kneeling has quit his job.
k-roboh and uh, if we're going with the officer's story, which one exactly? cause it's not like him and his key witnesses didn't change it multiple fucking times. let's just go with the facts, instead, and pretend we can't hear a fucking word the guy who emptied his clip into an unarmed kid while he was, in order, fleeing (back turned), then raising his arms, then kneeling, and then FALLING. he shot at him so many fucking times (missed the first five or so) he couldn't even stop pulling the trigger after he was clearly dead. why anyone would give a fuck what he said after the fact is beyond me.
k-robi bet that 100% of the people who think unarmed Mike Brown deserved to be shot at multiple times while he was running away and then surrendering really fucking suck at videogames because they waste all their ammunition on the civilian NPCs instead of the bad guys.
those were your first three posts in this thread. first page.
i thought we were negating page 1 based on the fact that it's all shitposting and i got -9 when i pointed out that Mike was shot at from a distance, something which wasn't actually disputed but simply responded to with a meme, despite the fact that ballistics is a real thing.
k-robi thought we were negating page 1 based on the fact that it's all shitposting and i got -9 when i pointed out that Mike was shot at from a distance, something which wasn't actually disputed but simply responded to with a meme, despite the fact that ballistics is a real thing.
yeah dude, whatever you wanna do, can you just like telegraph me the list of your stupid fucking rules next time? what posts to count, which ones to forget, you know, the usual. If those three posts don't automatically scream bias then I don't know what the word means I guess
This is absolutely painful. I'm going to do my very best to drop it and not open this thread again, but I can't make any promises, I'm a stubborn piece of shit just like you