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steeze4days
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What's up people,

Was just curious as to how many layers you wear on a normal day at your hill?

Personally I rock a armada contra thermal shirt and then the zip up along with obviously my jacket!

What about you guys?

Seen some people just wearing a tee and jacket pretty much all season and others going full out with like 4 base layers and their jacket on top!

Obviously weather dependant but on your normal day at the hill how many layers are you rockin and what brands?

Peace!
Mar 10 2015 4:19PM
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TurquoiseGrizzly
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I dress according to the weather. Usually too many layers because you can always de-layer.

Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
Mar 10 2015 4:29PM
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veng_m
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under armour base 2.0, under armour hoody, orage jacket and pants
Mar 10 2015 4:29PM
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Ekis
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if it's 10C one layer, 0C two, -10C three and so on
Mar 10 2015 4:32PM
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Kakdeg
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Dress after the weather, and I will almost always keep a extra fleece in my backpack just in case, but on a normal day just a merino wool base layer, bibs and a jacket, colder days will include a fleece thermal, and even colder days will have merino wool base layer, a 2nd base layer, and a thermal.
We get at least -30c or -22 in the stupid american system for about 2-3 weeks a season.
Got to stay warm, freezing sucks balls!
Mar 10 2015 4:37PM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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Yo, layering is an art but a 3 layer system has stood the test of time.

1) Layer next to skin: This base layer is all about breathability. Generally depending on the conditions you want to go with a cotton (HOT days) or a synthetic layer. You DON'T, want this layer to get wet from sweat, that's the primary goal when choosing.
2) Insulating Layer: Traps air next to your body. Thicker the air pocket the more insulation you have (convection >> conduction). I generally switch from a fleece or down depending on the conditions.
3) Shell Layer: Self-explanatory. Keeps the elements off of you.

The overall goal when choosing layers is to choose the clothing that provides the most comfort in the largest temperature ranges for the smallest amount of weight/bulk. This is overkill for most resort days, but when you actually have to think about what layers to bring this is a good approach.
Mar 10 2015 4:53PM
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freeballer
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Loco-Deer-SlayerYo, layering is an art but a 3 layer system has stood the test of time.

1) Layer next to skin: This base layer is all about breathability. Generally depending on the conditions you want to go with a cotton (HOT days) or a synthetic layer. You DON'T, want this layer to get wet from sweat, that's the primary goal when choosing.
2) Insulating Layer: Traps air next to your body. Thicker the air pocket the more insulation you have (convection >> conduction). I generally switch from a fleece or down depending on the conditions.
3) Shell Layer: Self-explanatory. Keeps the elements off of you.

The overall goal when choosing layers is to choose the clothing that provides the most comfort in the largest temperature ranges for the smallest amount of weight/bulk. This is overkill for most resort days, but when you actually have to think about what layers to bring this is a good approach.

This guy knows what's up. For me it's all Patagonia:

Base layer merino wool Patagonia long sleeve shirt if it's 25 degrees plus. If colder, I go with a R1 half zip thingy.

Mid layer a medium insulated, somewhat windproof hoodie. i got the nano-air, which patagonia says breathes so well that you can zip it up and forget about it.

Last up is a goretex shell.

With the three of these layers, I'm all set all year round whether the park, backcountry, or just groomer laps on the resort
Mar 10 2015 5:28PM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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Thanks man, you seem to know what you're doing as well! I'm paraphrasing this from a book called "Mountaineering The Freedom of the Hills."

Some serious life hacks in that book!
Mar 10 2015 5:35PM
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freeballer
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Loco-Deer-SlayerThanks man, you seem to know what you're doing as well! I'm paraphrasing this from a book called "Mountaineering The Freedom of the Hills."

Some serious life hacks in that book!

i used to wear a bunch of cotton, flannels, and hoodies. layering with good items that breathe well has literally changed my life. you simply stay warmer with less weight. and you also stay cooler even when the aerobic activity goes up, whether that's hiking the park, or the backcountry.

get good technical layers. you'll stay warmer when needed, and not overheat when hiking. best of both worlds. plus, the stuff lasts a long time and the better companies have bomber warranties if something fails. Worth the investment.
Mar 10 2015 5:44PM
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Mr.noodle
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Cold- t shirt, sweat shirt, shorts, and snow pants

warmer jacket and a t shirt and same shorts and pants

really warm- sweatshirt t shirt and same pants and shorts
Mar 10 2015 5:47PM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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I guess it really comes down to this. If you understand how heat transfer processes differ from convection to conduction, life will become much easier.
Mar 10 2015 6:03PM
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Titus69
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if its gonna be chilly I wear a long john shirt, t shirt, arcteryx vest and a hoodie and a vest over. If its warm I wear a long john shirt, tshirt and a hoodie
Mar 10 2015 8:01PM
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250r
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Loco-Deer-SlayerYo, layering is an art but a 3 layer system has stood the test of time.

1) Layer next to skin: This base layer is all about breathability. Generally depending on the conditions you want to go with a cotton (HOT days) or a synthetic layer. You DON'T, want this layer to get wet from sweat, that's the primary goal when choosing.
2) Insulating Layer: Traps air next to your body. Thicker the air pocket the more insulation you have (convection >> conduction). I generally switch from a fleece or down depending on the conditions.
3) Shell Layer: Self-explanatory. Keeps the elements off of you.

The overall goal when choosing layers is to choose the clothing that provides the most comfort in the largest temperature ranges for the smallest amount of weight/bulk. This is overkill for most resort days, but when you actually have to think about what layers to bring this is a good approach.


i agree completely with this, but whats your reasoning for cotton on hot days? i never wear any cotton, wouldn't you want a more breathable synthetic base layer when its hot as fuck?
Mar 10 2015 8:05PM
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fresh_prince
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Thought this thread was gonna be about onions
Mar 10 2015 8:39PM
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-Colton
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Check the weather, if it's cold as balls.. Layer up. If it's dece -5 Celsius and gonna drop to -15 atleast at night bring extra layers to add on, now I just rock a UA long sleeve with a native art designed tall t with normal pants and head gear
Mar 11 2015 12:39AM
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JahLiam
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whole season I've been wearing longsleeve cotton shirt, suspenders, saga all over baselayer, hoodie, tall tee, jacket/vest/flannel
Mar 11 2015 1:36AM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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250ri agree completely with this, but whats your reasoning for cotton on hot days? i never wear any cotton, wouldn't you want a more breathable synthetic base layer when its hot as fuck?


It depends on the tech of your base layer, but for the least amount of money cotton provides the best breathability. You just have to watch out for cotton when it gets wet, it absorbs water but does not shed. It also dries relatively quickly.

Also when cotton gets wet it becomes abrasive, this is how you get blisters hiking, and why you do not have sex in the shower. Water is not a lubricant.
Mar 11 2015 1:38AM
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-WZ-
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thermal layer
hoodie
tall t

if its cold out or snowing a bunch ill sput a jacket over top of it all and maybe and extra tee
Mar 11 2015 1:40AM
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dingus
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Layering up is an art form, do not tread lightly
Mar 11 2015 1:44AM
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250r
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Loco-Deer-SlayerIt depends on the tech of your base layer, but for the least amount of money cotton provides the best breathability. You just have to watch out for cotton when it gets wet, it absorbs water but does not shed. It also dries relatively quickly.

Also when cotton gets wet it becomes abrasive, this is how you get blisters hiking, and why you do not have sex in the shower. Water is not a lubricant.


yea when its hot i just wear a super thin polyester or silk shirt and a waterproof/synthetic hoodie, barely even sweat when its 10°c
Mar 11 2015 1:49AM
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Loco-Deer-Slayer
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I honestly never go with cotton just because I run hot. The infamous "nipple chafe" is enough to keep me away from that.


Hahahaha layering is a serious business. You can work your ass off for an hour gaining a ride and the second you get up there you are met with howling winds that literally freeze the sweat to your head in five min.

This is overkill for resorts but when the option of a lodge or a car to warm up is no longer there you have to think about this shit.
Mar 11 2015 1:56AM
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plyswthsqrrls
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top:
MEC base layer
686 thermal
tall t
oakley / rome sds shell

bottom:
under armour long workout shorts
oakley / special blend pants

hands:
gore-tex mitts on cold days
analog pipe glove on warm days

for the longest time I used to layer my gloves / mitts and couldn't figure out why my hands would still get cold. now I will only ever wear one layer over my hands and regardless of the temperatures they never get cold. took me way too long to realize dry = warm

my ski socks that I got three years ago were the best investment I've ever made. a good pair of socks makes the difference between having a shitty day or an all-time day
Mar 11 2015 3:01AM
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TurquoiseGrizzly
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fresh_princeThought this thread was gonna be about onions


Mar 11 2015 9:28AM
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_69
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20 Degress:
Insulated flannel, 2 t shirts, and my jacket

10 to -15 Degrees:
Insulated flannel, a flannel, t shirt, jacket


These are the only temperatures I have nailed down... Minnesota sucks.
Mar 11 2015 9:59AM
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VD.
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Depends. in the middle of winter I'll normally wear power stretch pants next to skin and bib pants on the bottom. On top I'll go for a merino baselayer, power stretch fleece, synth/down (depending on precip) jacket and hard shell. In spring I'll swap out the power stretch pants for merino pants and I'll drop the power stretch fleece on top. If the weather is good I'll ski in softshell pants and with a lightweight synthetic insulator on top.
Mar 11 2015 10:20AM
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Thom4s
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Two shirts and a tight sweatshirt no matter what and over that either a jacket or a hoodie depending on the day
Mar 11 2015 11:03AM
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