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Weight to far back on 360. any tips

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willie2020
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Hey guys me and my mate are learning 360s atm we have watched all the ski addiction videos and the bag o trips ones and we have landed about 5 or 6 each out of 20 to 30 odd attemps. we both have the same problem we are pausing halfway round then only getting to about 270 300 and we have our weight to far back in the air so we are not flat when we spin and fall back on on our sides when we land.

Any tips on how to stay flat in the air. im pretty sure we are not getting all the way round because we are not committing to the head turn.

any tips we would love to hear. or just maby advice on what worked for you when learning 3s etc
Mar 2 2015 7:39PM
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willie2020
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Hear is a terrible video or what i mean. I have way better ones on my computer but not at home atm will upload a better one when i get back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVt74o1KxhM
Mar 2 2015 7:42PM
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Hoodliving
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All you need to know right here. Helped me a ton https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5dwEXPxvDA
Mar 2 2015 7:42PM
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Mr.noodle
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Pressure on your shins and pop
Mar 2 2015 7:45PM
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r.simp
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The biggest thing that helped me was to start preparing my body to spin a little before reaching the lip and just as you reach the lip you need to pop and spin. Put pressure on your shins. You will likely land back seat a few times. A big thing is to also just commit. A decent sized jump with a gap of 5-10 feet is really good imo to learn on.
Mar 2 2015 7:48PM
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will_powder
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1. Learn how to ski properly.
2. Come back when you know how to do that.

You just look backside as hell, way too upright, not coordination, YIKES. Riding park without the fundamentals is like building a ferrari with a cracked chasis.
Mar 2 2015 7:51PM
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willie2020
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mantoastAll you need to know right here. Helped me a ton https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5dwEXPxvDA


thank you so much for the link thats exactly what im doing wrong lol :) hope it helps i will find out on Friday :D
Mar 2 2015 7:52PM
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willie2020
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will_powder1. Learn how to ski properly.
2. Come back when you know how to do that.

You just look backside as hell, way too upright, not coordination, YIKES. Riding park without the fundamentals is like building a ferrari with a cracked chasis.


Its a at small indoor place we are sking in do you really thinking im trying to ski properly. I just got back from North star and squaw from a two week back country and heli ski trip that i was invited dont be so mean tahts not why we come to fourms so people can hate on you when you dont know what im thinking. Im not a great skier but a comfortably double black skier just not very comfortably in the park as its new to me. I enjoy 20 to 40 foot jumps I just don't really know any tricks apart from 1's and grabs
Mar 2 2015 8:06PM
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willie2020
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willie2020thank you so much for the link thats exactly what im doing wrong lol :) hope it helps i will find out on Friday :D


and that video is about 2 years old
Mar 2 2015 8:06PM
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PoLaRpEaK
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will_powder1. Learn how to ski properly.
2. Come back when you know how to do that.

You just look backside as hell, way too upright, not coordination, YIKES. Riding park without the fundamentals is like building a ferrari with a cracked chasis.


This.
Mar 2 2015 8:30PM
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fresh_prince
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absorb the landing less, be a bonner when you land the first couple times so you don't collapse
Mar 2 2015 9:20PM
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last_tango
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Try skiing with short poles that you can just barely pole plan into the snow while standing and pole plant every turn with your hands up, it will help you correct your back seat stance.

Just straight air jumps and practice popping with a little bit more shin in the boot.

If they ever set up slalom gates run them for a solid hour. They are actually really hard to ski and it will make you a better skier. I even raced in high school and slalom was always a bitch for me. I did better at high speed events, the more downhill the course was the better I did.

Try carving into the jump with some ones and try that with a three.
Mar 2 2015 10:06PM
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will_powder
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willie2020Its a at small indoor place we are sking in do you really thinking im trying to ski properly. I just got back from North star and squaw from a two week back country and heli ski trip that i was invited dont be so mean tahts not why we come to fourms so people can hate on you when you dont know what im thinking. Im not a great skier but a comfortably double black skier just not very comfortably in the park as its new to me. I enjoy 20 to 40 foot jumps I just don't really know any tricks apart from 1's and grabs


Going heli skiing = lucky to have the means
Going heli skiing =/= good skier

I'm not being mean, I'm being honest. Fundamentals of skiing are vital to skiing in the park. All the best pros have a racing, moguls or some other sort of strong background. Plus skiing outside of the park is fun.

When you're in a small dome like that, practice switch carving, that will help with 180s. Work on a solid pop with arms in control and forward.
Mar 2 2015 10:28PM
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willie2020
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how do i close this thread ive got all the advice i need thank you everyone
Mar 2 2015 11:23PM
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yu.pang.12
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Head turn is the most most most most important thing for 3 and higher spin, get use to it.
Back seated problem is either you have a weak core strength or you just ski back seated a lot but not noticed by yourself.
When you in the air, try to lift up your heel a bit, keep your core muscle tight.
Or just try it hundreds of times on trampolines.

will_powder is right, though it's hard to take it. Basic techniques are so vital! Yes, you can do 3s or 5s after like 2 seasons, 40 days at most, but you also risk yourself of getting injured in some unexpected air or landing. It is fun going into parks and jumps, but it's also important to practice basic skills to keep your skiing life much much longer.

Cheers
Mar 3 2015 12:12AM
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willie2020
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yu.pang.12Head turn is the most most most most important thing for 3 and higher spin, get use to it.
Back seated problem is either you have a weak core strength or you just ski back seated a lot but not noticed by yourself.
When you in the air, try to lift up your heel a bit, keep your core muscle tight.
Or just try it hundreds of times on trampolines.

will_powder is right, though it's hard to take it. Basic techniques are so vital! Yes, you can do 3s or 5s after like 2 seasons, 40 days at most, but you also risk yourself of getting injured in some unexpected air or landing. It is fun going into parks and jumps, but it's also important to practice basic skills to keep your skiing life much much longer.

Cheers


this link from who ever posted it solved all the problems

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D5dwEXPxvDA

doing the T and not looking over the solder keeping head inbetween etc fixed everything
Mar 3 2015 1:02AM
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chicknfriedsteak
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I had that same problem when I was learning 360s, biggest thing is just keep your weight forward and and pop.
Mar 3 2015 10:14AM
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tommyk141
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Mr.noodlePressure on your shins and pop


I tried this and once u get in the habit of having pressure on ur shins u will start to land perfect
Mar 3 2015 10:22AM
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Thom4s
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Don't spot your landing too early
Mar 3 2015 10:37AM
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