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should I coat my new and unused skis with wax to protect the bases? or are they fine to just chill? I have no idea when I am going to actually mount them.
I would if I were in your position. You'll need to give them a fresh coat before you use them anyway because the factory job is generally pretty crap. May as well just go ahead and do it now :)
Protect your bases? So do you want to put a a layer of storage wax on them until you use them? Because that could be a good idea if they're just gonna be sitting around.
My skis rather quickly turned gray after a few days of riding, I would definitely recommend you well wax them, first soft wax and then wax for the weather. can do it right away, can after a few days of riding, but not after a long time.
AeeehMy skis rather quickly turned gray after a few days of riding, I would definitely recommend you well wax them, first soft wax and then wax for the weather. can do it right away, can after a few days of riding, but not after a long time.
they've been chilling for a while now, a few months. I mean, shops let new skis sit around all season long, and there's no problem there right? Hopefully they are fine. They look and feel okay...
One thing about wax is that it needs to be the correct temperature range for the conditions you're gonna ski in. Wax for warmer conditions doesn't work so well in colder conditions and vica versa. So I'd take them for a hot waxing with the correct wax for where you're gonna ski.
I've had to really explain my question in great depth. I always find myself wondering strange things like this. Like I said, new skis sit around in shops all season long, and you can go in at the end of a season for a sale, buy a pair of skis, and they are just fine. Which gives me the impression mine are doing just fine. Thanks for the input everyone, I think my conclusion is, storage wax them is great, but not totally necessary and no harm will be done to them for sitting around.
if ya want your new skis to be fast hot box em or repeated base prep hot scrape em
then keep em waxed w/ condition dependent wax
dont ski through dirty parking lot snow or fuck up your structure
if you wanna be slow
don't wax em
SFBv420.0if ya want your new skis to be fast hot box em or repeated base prep hot scrape em
then keep em waxed w/ condition dependent wax
dont ski through dirty parking lot snow or fuck up your structure
if you wanna be slow
don't wax em
I am trying to be as clear as I can that my question regards unused brand new skis I have purchased that are not mounted with bindings, and are simply sitting in my room, and will continue to do so for an unknown amount of time/I am not mounting or skiing them. They are not shrink wrapped, and have had nothing done to them. They are simply new skis that have been sitting in my room for a few months totally exposed to the Universe...
Lol at people not getting your question. But Ya you should be fine with the factory wax that's the reason they put it on there so the bases don't dry out. I mean it never hurts to throw a storage wax on there but it's not death if you don't.
soupcanLol at people not getting your question. But Ya you should be fine with the factory wax that's the reason they put it on there so the bases don't dry out. I mean it never hurts to throw a storage wax on there but it's not death if you don't.
That's exactly what I said in my first post on this thread. I'll second this since you guys have seemed to skip over what I said by accident.
definitely give em a few coats and saturate the bases before you ski, factory wax is generally quite shitty and even though it probably wont matter for park skiing there's literally no downside to having more wax in the base.
Since you asked the question you are concerned about it. If you don't have to pay for a wax then go ahead and do it. How ever if you have to pay for the wax then hold off no point in spending money you don't have too,
Thank you guys for all the genuine responses. I have never had a new pair have to sit for this long, which is why I wondered. Also never had a pair that has been already been sitting around for so long. I will let you know why. I live in Utah, and until pretty much this morning, there has been zero reason to mount these...
Most factory tunes are pretty awful. I always take my skis for a base grind and re do the side and base edges with a proper file and not the machine tune of the factory.
Factory wax isn't great either, a couple of hot scrapes and then some decent wax are what your bases deserve.
LamafamaMost factory tunes are pretty awful. I always take my skis for a base grind and re do the side and base edges with a proper file and not the machine tune of the factory.
Factory wax isn't great either, a couple of hot scrapes and then some decent wax are what your bases deserve.
It's true factory wax doesn't last. My local shop caries mainly 4FRNT and I went in for a bar of wax, but all they had was the wax from the factory sowhat the hell I got it and it doesn't last nearly as long as even generic all temp wax.
theVanThank you guys for all the genuine responses. I have never had a new pair have to sit for this long, which is why I wondered. Also never had a pair that has been already been sitting around for so long. I will let you know why. I live in Utah, and until pretty much this morning, there has been zero reason to mount these...
Well, they are Armada ARG's from the 2011/2012 season, yes. These are the skis in question. Been sitting around for a few years, and when I bought them in September, I removed the shrink wrap. So they have been without hot waxy love for some time. I will mount and ski them, but I am not sure when. I am not about to scratch my babies.
LamafamaMost factory tunes are pretty awful. I always take my skis for a base grind and re do the side and base edges with a proper file and not the machine tune of the factory.
Factory wax isn't great either, a couple of hot scrapes and then some decent wax are what your bases deserve.
What the fuck? Why would you get a base grind before you even ski on the skis......
theVanWell, they are Armada ARG's from the 2011/2012 season, yes. These are the skis in question. Been sitting around for a few years, and when I bought them in September, I removed the shrink wrap. So they have been without hot waxy love for some time. I will mount and ski them, but I am not sure when. I am not about to scratch my babies.
Nice those are sick and you're lucky you have brand new pair. They've been a while with out a wax so I'd suggest a layer
B.QuincyWhat the fuck? Why would you get a base grind before you even ski on the skis......
Because I want a different base structure based on the conditions I ski... Or, it didn't come with a structure to begin with.
I 1/2 almost all my skis, and put in an appropriate structure before I ski them. Some skis come with an aggressive and way too deep cross pattern, which can glue your base to the snow in Te wrong conditions. Others come with a very light linear which is not that fast on really wet snow.
cobra_commanderBecause I want a different base structure based on the conditions I ski... Or, it didn't come with a structure to begin with.
I 1/2 almost all my skis, and put in an appropriate structure before I ski them. Some skis come with an aggressive and way too deep cross pattern, which can glue your base to the snow in Te wrong conditions. Others come with a very light linear which is not that fast on really wet snow.
But wouldnt you want to ride them before doing this....
B.QuincyWhat the fuck? Why would you get a base grind before you even ski on the skis......
A couple of reasons:
1. To set the base edge correctly. Pretty much all factory tunes are machine tunes and are ok at best. The base edge angle is as vital to set correctly as the side edge.
2. Remove all traces of factory waxing and resins etc.
3. Structure, I like to have a decent structure put on my skis, the local chap in Edinburgh does a very good job of this.
4. All the above save me time and effort in resort when I'm using them.
Don't bother. This kid is all over gear talk and thinks he's an expert on anything ski related. Seen him give bad advice multiple times, while he fronts like he knows what he's talking about.
Krotchs_BrotherDon't bother. This kid is all over gear talk and thinks he's an expert on anything ski related. Seen him give bad advice multiple times, while he fronts like he knows what he's talking about.
Dude pretty sure you tried to call me out once before and it didnt work so chill the fuck out.
1. To set the base edge correctly. Pretty much all factory tunes are machine tunes and are ok at best. The base edge angle is as vital to set correctly as the side edge.
2. Remove all traces of factory waxing and resins etc.
3. Structure, I like to have a decent structure put on my skis, the local chap in Edinburgh does a very good job of this.
4. All the above save me time and effort in resort when I'm using them.
cobra_commanderNo...
Okay that makes sense, thanks for explaining it! Just curious what exactly does base grinding do to chane the structure on your bases? And how does each kind of structure match up with various conditions?
Structure is a funny thing, theres a few different types and nobody actually knows the speed difference between them. A structure does help a base hold wax better so having a good structure is key. As for the differences between structures the actual differences are either not totally know or the manufacturers have their own secrets.
LamafamaStructure is a funny thing, theres a few different types and nobody actually knows the speed difference between them. A structure does help a base hold wax better so having a good structure is key. As for the differences between structures the actual differences are either not totally know or the manufacturers have their own secrets.
Wat?
Aggressive structure for wet snow, minimal structure for extremely dry snow, and a gradient in between.
Structure also has extremely little to do with retention of wax, it's there for retention or dispersal of water, which is what lets skis glide.
Personally I like a linear deep structure for wet snow and a light crosshatch for pow.
It's not some completely non-understood black magic voodoo science, in fact it's quite well understood by most tuners.
Last but not least, for joe bloggs just going out to hack around the mountain, the factory tune is 100% sufficient.
Aggressive structure for wet snow, minimal structure for extremely dry snow, and a gradient in between.
Structure also has extremely little to do with retention of wax, it's there for retention or dispersal of water, which is what lets skis glide.
Personally I like a linear deep structure for wet snow and a light crosshatch for pow.
It's not some completely non-understood black magic voodoo science, in fact it's quite well understood by most tuners.
Last but not least, for joe bloggs just going out to hack around the mountain, the factory tune is 100% sufficient.
