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nate1097
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What are the lightest park skis on the market? I've been looking around but can't find weights for a lot of skis. Any help? Thanks. Btw I tried the search bar.
Feb 25 2015 9:29AM
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yungcigsmoker
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In my expirience:

Armada
Most line skis (NEVER buy afterbangs)
Icelantic
ON3P

Brands to stay away from:

Head
Salomon
Feb 25 2015 9:49AM
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jeano
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Liberty has some super light skis.. Check those out
Feb 25 2015 10:12AM
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yungcigsmoker
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MTNSBrands to stay away from:

Head
Salomon


Oh yeah stay away from k2 as well
Feb 25 2015 10:21AM
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John18_6
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Lightest skis usually end up being the shittiest skis. Ski weights are posted on the specs of the ski manufacturer website, but don't use that as a determination for what ski you choose. You might think that a lightweight ski will improve your progression but it's actually the opposite because the skis have no control at all. Riding the line mastermind was the biggest mistake of my life, I didn't learn a single trick that season. I now ride big, stiff, and heavy k2 shredditor 92s, I've progressed more this season than I ever have before, and can still whip 2 ons effortlessly.
Feb 25 2015 10:33AM
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yungcigsmoker
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john18061806Lightest skis usually end up being the shittiest skis. Ski weights are posted on the specs of the ski manufacturer website, but don't use that as a determination for what ski you choose. You might think that a lightweight ski will improve your progression but it's actually the opposite because the skis have no control at all. Riding the line mastermind was the biggest mistake of my life, I didn't learn a single trick that season. I now ride big, stiff, and heavy k2 shredditor 92s, I've progressed more this season than I ever have before, and can still whip 2 ons effortlessly.


I highly doubt it was the skis fault that you didn't progress.
Feb 25 2015 10:37AM
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NMMedia
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john18061806Lightest skis usually end up being the shittiest skis. Ski weights are posted on the specs of the ski manufacturer website, but don't use that as a determination for what ski you choose. You might think that a lightweight ski will improve your progression but it's actually the opposite because the skis have no control at all. Riding the line mastermind was the biggest mistake of my life, I didn't learn a single trick that season. I now ride big, stiff, and heavy k2 shredditor 92s, I've progressed more this season than I ever have before, and can still whip 2 ons effortlessly.


Light ski = shitty ski is just all together false. Also light ski = no control is false, control has to do more with stiffness and how the ski is shaped (camber, rocker, sidecut, etc). I went from some heavy as hell K2s to a pair of Moments that feel like they weigh half as much. They not only ski better in all conditions (ice, slush, crud, powder) but I can also toss tricks with much more control because Im dealing with how my body moves not with how heavy my skis are dragging on my feet. My K2s sketched out at the first sign of ice, and landings were never really stomped because there was no grip. First night out on my Vices I landed several new tricks and instantly made all the ones I already knew 10x cleaner on the landings. Also many of our crew, The Lake
Effect are shredding on light sticks (multiple on moment, some on armada, vokle, line, on3p and icelantic, all light skis)

Now after that little speech I will try to answer OPs question, for me the lightest I have ever skied on are the Moment Vice. Dont know if they are the "lightest" but they are super light and low swing weight.
Feb 25 2015 10:43AM
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Holzsteezy*
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candide series. some of next year line skis have this cloud core and its sooooo light
Feb 25 2015 10:49AM
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Pmoore
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You don't want a light park ski. You want light pow skis, you don't want light park skis.
Feb 25 2015 11:15AM
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John18_6
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MTNSI highly doubt it was the skis fault that you didn't progress.

It definitely can be when you can no edge control. Also when the skis break halfway through the season it has an effect- which I forgot to mention. It's hard to be confident in trying a new trick when you can't even land tricks you already know.

TheWingmencontrol has to do more with stiffness and how the ski is shaped (camber, rocker, sidecut, etc).


Completely agree, but of all the lighter skis I've tried have generall been less stiff and I feel uncomfortable on them. Just an association of mine I guess, I have never been on a light and stiff ski. I can't ride rockers for the life of me. I guess it really depends on the person but from my experience, extremely flexy skis have terrible edge control on hard snow or ice.
Feb 25 2015 12:11PM
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SteezeOnStage
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MTNSOh yeah stay away from k2 as well


COMPLETELY agree. My Kung Fujas are so heavy they give me knee pain. No other ski has done that to me.
Feb 25 2015 12:13PM
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yelsel
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SteezeOnStageCOMPLETELY agree. My Kung Fujas are so heavy they give me knee pain. No other ski has done that to me.


All of my K2s, even the women's skis, are heavy as hell. Love them but so heavy.

Out of everything else I've tried, my ON3P's are by far the lightest.
Feb 25 2015 12:36PM
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NMMedia
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john18061806Completely agree, but of all the lighter skis I've tried have generall been less stiff and I feel uncomfortable on them. Just an association of mine I guess, I have never been on a light and stiff ski. I can't ride rockers for the life of me. I guess it really depends on the person but from my experience, extremely flexy skis have terrible edge control on hard snow or ice.


My super heavy K2s were way more flexy than my super light Moments, weight doesnt really have anything to do with the flex pattern its what its constructed out of and more importantly how its constructed. They are also sick since they combine a rocker and a camber, so you can still butter on a really stiff ski but also have the grip on ice of a camber ski
Feb 25 2015 12:56PM
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250r
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dps skis with pure carbon cores

praxis skis with ultralite carbon/glass core


probably some others that are comparable as well.
Feb 25 2015 1:25PM
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Daski
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Stay away from Volkl, in my experience (2 pairs) they have been very heavy
Feb 25 2015 1:44PM
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nate1097
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K+ to all, thanks for the info
Feb 25 2015 1:52PM
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last_tango
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kitten factory rayzerblaydz
Feb 25 2015 1:56PM
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histonskiah
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Liberty Lte by far. I loved those skis, probably one of my favorite skis except they didn't last very long. I've gone through two pairs due to the top completely delaming. But all my skis get destroyed about that fast anyways.
Feb 25 2015 1:59PM
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gaper-raper
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j ski whipits! claim to J Lev being a boussss
Feb 25 2015 2:10PM
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Toaster-Tony
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TheWingmenLight ski = shitty ski is just all together false. Also light ski = no control is false, control has to do more with stiffness and how the ski is shaped (camber, rocker, sidecut, etc). I went from some heavy as hell K2s to a pair of Moments that feel like they weigh half as much. They not only ski better in all conditions (ice, slush, crud, powder) but I can also toss tricks with much more control because Im dealing with how my body moves not with how heavy my skis are dragging on my feet. My K2s sketched out at the first sign of ice, and landings were never really stomped because there was no grip. First night out on my Vices I landed several new tricks and instantly made all the ones I already knew 10x cleaner on the landings. Also many of our crew, The Lake
Effect are shredding on light sticks (multiple on moment, some on armada, vokle, line, on3p and icelantic, all light skis)

Now after that little speech I will try to answer OPs question, for me the lightest I have ever skied on are the Moment Vice. Dont know if they are the "lightest" but they are super light and low swing weight.


This is true. I rode Liberty LTE's and progressed more than ever on them. I have since moved to the Armada Halos and feel I had much more control while skiing my LTE's. I'm not a fan of the early rise, especially in shitty icy conditions, and overall, I can't get as deep into turns with these compared to my old skis.

It pretty much completely narrows down to preference combined with what you will be using them for. Get a ski that suits your tastes for weight and stiffness, and get a shape that suits the type of terrain you'll be skiing most predominately. If I had to do it all over again, I would have chosen a ski with a camber shape and maybe something a little more poppy, but that's just me.
Feb 25 2015 2:18PM
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MartianMan
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MTNSIn my expirience:

Armada
Most line skis (NEVER buy afterbangs)
Icelantic
ON3P

Brands to stay away from:

Head
Salomon


I'd have to disagree with you about Icelantic and ON3P. They are both producers of fantastic american made skis, but neither company's skis are some the lightest on the market. Especially when it comes to powder skis, these tend to way more than most competitors. However, ski weight is not the end all be all. Generally, heavier skis tend to have better durability than lighter ones. Also, many riders will look for heavier skis for stability through variable conditions.

Generally, Line, DPS, Black Diamond, Faction, Liberty, and Salomon have some of the lighter skis on the market, but that fluctuates greatly.
Feb 25 2015 2:22PM
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.GUCCI.
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MTNSIn my expirience:

Armada
Most line skis (NEVER buy afterbangs)
Icelantic
ON3P

Brands to stay away from:

Head
Salomon


i don't get it. afterangs are, in my experience the funnest and most durable ski i've ever ridden. don't understand the hate that they get.
Feb 25 2015 2:22PM
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.GaperMan.
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Are J Skis lighter than line chronics/Atomic Infamous
Feb 25 2015 2:32PM
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MNSkiers
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I have ON3P's Jeronimo's and they are super light! Its just I have the "Marker Griffons" which are pretty heavy. But my skies have had no problems. I have skied every single day for the whole season but a couple days out of the week. I will admit they do have some dents in them but thats just from me being reckless and careless doing tricks/carrying them around. I would recommend them for sure for a skier who likes rails and jumps. They are very buttery and a large amount of flex.
Feb 25 2015 2:32PM
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kylemclean
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Roan.i don't get it. afterangs are, in my experience the funnest and most durable ski i've ever ridden. don't understand the hate that they get.


It's because that's what people associate with the ski and remember about it just like marker squires, almost a third of the park riders at my mountain have them and they don't break that often but they get a shit load of hate on hear



Also I think that amplid skis are really light but haven't ridden them personnally
Feb 25 2015 2:36PM
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judmaster77
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Line future spins
Feb 25 2015 2:42PM
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Detroit_Steeze
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Liberty with that bamboo core are pretty light.
Feb 25 2015 3:09PM
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Burgy
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Roan.i don't get it. afterangs are, in my experience the funnest and most durable ski i've ever ridden. don't understand the hate that they get.


same man! i still have the og Abangs, but as my urban skis and i had nothing against them... i have just learned to except that other people are different...
Feb 25 2015 3:10PM
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Ekis
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Atomic infamous, they are lightest ski i've ever ridden but then again quality is crap.
Feb 25 2015 3:11PM
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stephens.pass
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A-bangs are definitely not the lightest skis on the market but if you're looking for a durable, forgiving ski then they are it. You can still huck spins on them and they're fun as all hell in the park. As far as a light ski goes the Joystick Those are pretty damn light, quality isn't A+ but park skis are disposable, at least they're cheap.
Feb 25 2015 4:42PM
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veng_m
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nate1097What are the lightest park skis on the market? I've been looking around but can't find weights for a lot of skis. Any help? Thanks. Btw I tried the search bar.


try the google search bar next time, just put newschoolers after whatever you're looking for
Feb 25 2015 5:04PM
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skitheweast
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Amplid syntax
Feb 25 2015 5:14PM
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notspoicey
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J Skis
Feb 25 2015 5:36PM
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nate1097
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veng_mtry the google search bar next time, just put newschoolers after whatever you're looking for


Tried that too. Didn't get anything recent.
Feb 26 2015 2:30PM
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Kakdeg
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As said before in this thread, the Faction Candide Series is ridiculously light.
Feb 26 2015 2:40PM
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yungcurv
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I have a pair of Ramp Corks, and they're not the lightest but defiantly aren't heavy. I've got Look Pivot 12's and they made the biggest difference in weight. They're not a very durable ski in the respect that they have dents on the exposed bamboo sidewall, but it doesn't affect performance and it looks fine at a quick glance. As far as performance they are really stiff when you first get them, but now after over a half of a season on them they are finally breaking in and are pretty flexible but don't flex out. Overall a fire pair of skis but pretty pricey at $700
Feb 26 2015 4:25PM
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Park.
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I can't believe that you guys think k2s are heavy. Literally no park skis that I've seen listed (besides k2 sights and old Salomon's) are heavy. I've skied shredditor 92s with 140s, and they are in no way heavy. They feel solid if anything but not heavy. I've owned heads, I've held nfx's and skied suspects, and while suspects were pretty heavy, none of these skis are going to inhibit you from doing a trick. If you know how to do a specific trick, then none of these skis are going to prevent you from doing them. If they do cause a problem, stop being a bitch.

I'm not saying weight doesn't play a role, because I have had a pair of skis so heavy I couldn't do tricks, but if you buy a park ski nowadays that is made for park, you will not have a problem.

To address the performance of light vs. Heavy skis, wingman is right.
Feb 26 2015 5:57PM
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influenza
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Snow blades are very light get some of those
Feb 26 2015 6:09PM
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will_powder
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Total weight doesn't matter, swing weight matters. My 9thwards are probably the heaviest park skis on the mountain and still shred/spin/etc.

Stop skipping leg day and it won't matter.
Feb 26 2015 6:10PM
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SteezOnSkis12
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TheWingmenMy super heavy K2s were way more flexy

I have no clue how that works because my k2s have very little flex (k2 Sight 2014)
Feb 26 2015 6:13PM
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Afronaut
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faction
Feb 26 2015 6:21PM
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RudyGarmisch
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Dynafit makes a light ski, you could use them for park if you wanted. Not sure why you would, as i consider other aspects more important. You could also ski 151cm skis, those should be light.
Feb 26 2015 7:18PM
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Midwest_Slayer
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Surface Lab 002's are extremely light, but lacking durability.
Feb 26 2015 9:47PM
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Bennett.
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How about lightest bindings? Been curious about this for a while just never took the time to ask.
Feb 26 2015 10:39PM
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Matt5838
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k2 are the heaviest
Feb 26 2015 10:51PM
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fredyferl
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Midwest_SlayerSurface Lab 002's are extremely light, but lacking durability.

I thought Surface made durable skis
Feb 26 2015 10:54PM
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TACO-DOG.exe
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Bennett.How about lightest bindings? Been curious about this for a while just never took the time to ask.


line reactors.
Feb 26 2015 11:12PM
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Yourboybangs
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I don't know how nobody has mentioned swing weight lol, A ski can be heavy in weight, but still have well designed physics for spinning.

I ride Punx, which are light as hell and helped me progress after my Stepups. The faction candide's are light as hell and even the Surface blanks are super light
Feb 27 2015 10:59AM
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yungcigsmoker
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will_powderTotal weight doesn't matter, swing weight matters. My 9thwards are probably the heaviest park skis on the mountain and still shred/spin/etc.

Stop skipping leg day and it won't matter.


Which 9s do you have? My first bloods are surprisingly lighter than my normal park skis.
Feb 27 2015 11:04AM
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Nacho+
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1200g @ 180cm
Feb 27 2015 5:26PM
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Sky.
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Matt5838k2 are the heaviest


Heavy, yes But my recoils really are bombproof, I've skied line, rossi, volkyl,you name it I've owned it or demoed it. my recoils have held up with the most minor of damages, let's see some a bangs last 2 seasons without looking like an utter pos.
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