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Injured because of hills fault?

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SLEEVES
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Skiing my home mountain, we have a pretty crappy park but its still fun to dink around while the snow is like mid april here in the west. There was a large wallride/ A frame set up and I went to slide the very top had to much speed and ended up falling over the back side of the wallride, I came down on my back to a metal post sticking about a foot out of the snow. ( I believe its a stake to keep the wallride in place but because of the warm weather this post has been exposed from melting snow)
It was about a 10-12 foot drop from the top and it just missed my spine. I was in extreme pain was able to ski to the patrol cabin where I waiting for an ambulance to take me for xrays and what not. Luckily nothing was broken but im left with the biggest back bruise I could imagine and I'm done skiing for at least a month.
I went to speak to the hill manager to explain that this was not my fault im injured, the hill employs 2 park staff to keep up with maintenance, He came back to say the wallride isn't meant to be hit on the other side and its my fault. My new patagucci jacket is ripped, I think thats easy to say that needs to be replaced. If that post hadn't been sticking a foot out of the snow I would have fallen over the back side and hit the snow and got up and tried it again. I can post photos of this wallride if need be.

What do you think is fair compensation for this accident?
Feb 16 2015 1:00PM
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kalle.
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can we have the pic?
i think it's both yours and the park crews fault tbh. you're right about that the park crew should keep things in shape, but you could have also checked the feature before you hit it.
Feb 16 2015 1:05PM
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plyswthsqrrls
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honestly your home mountain doesn't owe you anything
Feb 16 2015 1:05PM
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snowpocalypse
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Nothing.... Ski at your own risk.
Feb 16 2015 1:06PM
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powerbong2000
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I think fair compensation would be you getting punched in the face for not taking responsibility for yourself.

Seriously, this is why we can't have nice things. Just got done making a post about how civil liability has made doing anything remotely dangerous so difficult in the U.S. and stumble into this gleaming example of how people in this country are a bunch of little dickwads.
Feb 16 2015 1:13PM
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powerbong2000
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I'm going to sue Bridgerbowl for not cutting down all the trees because of that time I hit a tree.
Feb 16 2015 1:14PM
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Blurst
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Stop being a little whiny bitch you are the reason that ski hills are terrified of being sued for anything and everything.
Feb 16 2015 1:16PM
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veng_m
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powerbong2000I think fair compensation would be you getting punched in the face for not taking responsibility for yourself.

Seriously, this is why we can't have nice things. Just got done making a post about how civil liability has made doing anything remotely dangerous so difficult in the U.S. and stumble into this gleaming example of how people in this country are a bunch of little dickwads.


powerbong2000I'm going to sue Bridgerbowl for not cutting down all the trees because of that time I hit a tree.


Tru, liability man
Feb 16 2015 1:17PM
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SLEEVES
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haha you guys are cunts. I'm not gonna sue a mountain. I didnt hit some natural obstacle. I hit a stake that the staff neglected to realize. As soon as the accident happened they went to the metal steak with a grinder, got rid of it. my season is most likely done because the hill didn't do their job.
Feb 16 2015 2:53PM
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SLEEVES
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Say I broke my back because of the incident, or say someone landed on the post with the face or neck and it was fatal, it would have fully been the hills fault. There would be a lawsuit.
Feb 16 2015 2:55PM
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ColinBa2
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you couldnt sue because when you sign the waiver for your season pass you basicaly say that the resort is NOT responsable for any injuries or death.
Feb 16 2015 3:03PM
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ColinBa2
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always read the fine print
Feb 16 2015 3:04PM
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Joonas
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You could also fall and break your back hitting a sticky rail, would that still be their fault? No.
You failed, you got hurt, thats what skiing is about. Get over it. shame about the jacket tough. Try covering it over home insurance or something, dont know how it works over there.
Feb 16 2015 3:07PM
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Park.
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hey I know what won't happen to you! you wont get any sympathy from NS for complaining about how you got injured. try somewhere else that isnt full of judgemental pricks like myself.

But really, I don't think bringing this issue to the well-versed samaritans of NS for issues that are on lawful grounds will get you anywhere unless you are a dirty sadist. IF you are, then NS is the place for you!

But again, if you have a problem, bring it to a lawyer if you feel that your self entitled self needs compensation for a fault of your own. You didn't HAVE to hit that feature, did you? Its not like all the raging gapers that get fucked on features all the time sue the mountains. It was their fault. Im not calling you a gaper, but shit happens. its to be expected and skiing in a manmade park with artificial features brings unnecessary hazards. its part of the sport. Im not trying to sue my mountain for making a shitty jump that I tried to backflip and broke my shoulder on, and I certainly didnt come crawling to NS to complain that its the mountain's fault when I actually just suck at judging speed for backies. Everyone knows injuries suck, but dont blame others when it happens to you./rant
Feb 16 2015 3:25PM
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SLEEVES
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you havent put yourself in my position yet, I didnt hit a sticky rail or a tree. I hit a hit in the park that had a very dangerous post that the hill neglected to remove. I'm fucked cuz of something as stupid as that. If there was no post in the landing i would have fallen gotten up and skied away. I understand the fine print. Just a bunch of tough guys behind computer screens.
Feb 16 2015 3:27PM
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SLEEVES
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If i was skiing down the hill, and a chairlift fell on me, would it be under the fine print? would it be part of the risk?
Feb 16 2015 3:29PM
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kalle.
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SLEEVESyou havent put yourself in my position yet, I didnt hit a sticky rail or a tree. I hit a hit in the park that had a very dangerous post that the hill neglected to remove. I'm fucked cuz of something as stupid as that. If there was no post in the landing i would have fallen gotten up and skied away. I understand the fine print. Just a bunch of tough guys behind computer screens.


like i said earlier, you could have checked the feature before hitting it. then after seeing a dangerous piece that doesn't belong there, you could have gone to say to the tough guys behind computer screens to take the metal pole away from the park cause it's dangerous. you're just making this too hard for yourself
Feb 16 2015 3:32PM
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ianrich511
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You used the feature outside of the predicated design. You fucked up. Next time hit it and don't go over the back like it is intended.
Feb 16 2015 3:33PM
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ColinBa2
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if a chairlift fell on you.... that will never happen. so quit bitching and just go ski
Feb 16 2015 3:35PM
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plyswthsqrrls
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look man, no one is out to get you here, it obviously sucks that you got hurt. but you aren't going to be compensated anything from your local hill

look at it from their point of view, they're covered legally because technically it was your fault, so they have no motivation to financially compensate you at all. worst case ontario for them they lose a season pass holder, which realistically brings them no actual profit anyway

it's like if you got in a car accident because someone slammed on the breaks right in front of you. technically, legally, YOU are at fault, even though it was out of your hands. it definitely blows you got hurt and your jacket is fucked up, but I think you'll need to just move on from it
Feb 16 2015 5:36PM
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ColinBa2
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plyswthsqrrls



look man, no one is out to get you here, it obviously sucks that you got hurt. but you aren't going to be compensated anything from your local hill

look at it from their point of view, they're covered legally because technically it was your fault, so they have no motivation to financially compensate you at all. worst case ontario for them they lose a season pass holder, which realistically brings them no actual profit anyway

it's like if you got in a car accident because someone slammed on the breaks right in front of you. technically, legally, YOU are at fault, even though it was out of your hands. it definitely blows you got hurt and your jacket is fucked up, but I think you'll need to just move on from it


this
Feb 16 2015 5:41PM
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veng_m
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SLEEVEShaha you guys are cunts. I'm not gonna sue a mountain. I didnt hit some natural obstacle. I hit a stake that the staff neglected to realize. As soon as the accident happened they went to the metal steak with a grinder, got rid of it. my season is most likely done because the hill didn't do their job.


SLEEVESSay I broke my back because of the incident, or say someone landed on the post with the face or neck and it was fatal, it would have fully been the hills fault. There would be a lawsuit.


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ColinBa2you couldnt sue because when you sign the waiver for your season pass you basicaly say that the resort is NOT responsable for any injuries or death.


ColinBa2always read the fine print


plyswthsqrrls



look man, no one is out to get you here, it obviously sucks that you got hurt. but you aren't going to be compensated anything from your local hill

look at it from their point of view, they're covered legally because technically it was your fault, so they have no motivation to financially compensate you at all. worst case ontario for them they lose a season pass holder, which realistically brings them no actual profit anyway

it's like if you got in a car accident because someone slammed on the breaks right in front of you. technically, legally, YOU are at fault, even though it was out of your hands. it definitely blows you got hurt and your jacket is fucked up, but I think you'll need to just move on from it


exactly, it's at your own risk. OP you're a dickwad
Feb 16 2015 5:44PM
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TheUngroomed
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SLEEVEShaha you guys are cunts.


oh....
Feb 16 2015 5:45PM
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artrud
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that sucks and hope you heal up fast. they should of done a better job of keeping an eye on their features and probably closed it if a metal pipe is sticking out like that.

That being said, you should always CHECK OUT ANY FEATURE you are hitting and if you had done so you would not be hurt right now. This really isnt any different than if you had crashed into a tree or fallen onto a tree branch sticking out of the snow.

Also, you signed the waiver. Heal up fast and use it as a learning experience.
Feb 16 2015 5:50PM
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That_One_Dude
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SLEEVEShaha you guys are cunts


this made me lose it
Feb 16 2015 5:59PM
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Dobber
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Remember that waiver you signed?
Feb 16 2015 6:04PM
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Pac2
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Okay regardless of who's fault it was or a terrain park sign or the waiver you signed, you still got injured and you still are injured. It's a part of skiing I think we wish wasn't there but that's the way it is, sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. But the way you got injured does kinda suck but that's just life and getting pissed about it will only make it worse. Just ice it a lot and rest awhile and just always remember to fully inspect features before you hit them not that I do all the time either but it's definetly a good idea especially if you're getting creative and decide to hit a feature a different way than what it was "designed" for. Either way complaining about who's fault it was wont change anything just suck it up even though it might be hard. Free skiing comes with risks and that's just how the game works. And if you are afraid of hitting your back hard like that again you can get a back pad/brace thing I'm pretty sure inspired media sells them if not pro tec definetly does. Good luck with everything.
Feb 16 2015 7:38PM
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powerbong2000
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Wish the fall would have broken your typing hand.
Feb 16 2015 7:42PM
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roach1324
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You should have scouted the wallride before you hit it, saw the big ass post that was going to impale you and then just not hit it. You literally could have taken one run as warmup with your eyes open and none of this would have happened.
Feb 16 2015 8:15PM
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jensen
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plyswthsqrrls



look man, no one is out to get you here, it obviously sucks that you got hurt. but you aren't going to be compensated anything from your local hill

look at it from their point of view, they're covered legally because technically it was your fault, so they have no motivation to financially compensate you at all. worst case ontario for them they lose a season pass holder, which realistically brings them no actual profit anyway

it's like if you got in a car accident because someone slammed on the breaks right in front of you. technically, legally, YOU are at fault, even though it was out of your hands. it definitely blows you got hurt and your jacket is fucked up, but I think you'll need to just move on from it


There seems to be a serious misunderstanding here about ski resort liability. I used to work park crew at a large resort in Colorado and have personally seen the mountain settle with people over the most basic accidents ever.

For example, a snowboarder came through the park one day and hit a hip jump. There was a tiny little piece of bamboo stuck in the lip, the guy "hooked his edge" and broke his arm. He was a carpenter and lost two months of work. The mountain settled with him for about $30k. I talked to the risk management guy for the mountain and he was quote, "happy to settle at that price."

I have seen numerous others get new boards/skis for a tiny little edge on or screw sticking up on a rail (even when I can't find said edge or screw).

There is a massive amount of liability involved in running a ski area. When something happens you matter believe that the mountain will be much quicker to talk a settlement with you than they would be to tell you to get lost.

Should he sue is another discussion. I am saying that by the sounds of it, he could definitely have a case on his hands.
Feb 16 2015 8:28PM
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ColinBa2you couldnt sue because when you sign the waiver for your season pass you basicaly say that the resort is NOT responsable for any injuries or death.


Because Waivers hold soooooo much weight in a legal point of view.

lol
Feb 16 2015 8:30PM
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jensen
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jensenThere seems to be a serious misunderstanding here about ski resort liability. I used to work park crew at a large resort in Colorado and have personally seen the mountain settle with people over the most basic accidents ever.

For example, a snowboarder came through the park one day and hit a hip jump. There was a tiny little piece of bamboo stuck in the lip, the guy "hooked his edge" and broke his arm. He was a carpenter and lost two months of work. The mountain settled with him for about $30k. I talked to the risk management guy for the mountain and he was quote, "happy to settle at that price."

I have seen numerous others get new boards/skis for a tiny little edge on or screw sticking up on a rail (even when I can't find said edge or screw).

There is a massive amount of liability involved in running a ski area. When something happens you matter believe that the mountain will be much quicker to talk a settlement with you than they would be to tell you to get lost.

Should he sue is another discussion. I am saying that by the sounds of it, he could definitely have a case on his hands.


By they way, the resort I worked at had these same EXACT signs posted at the top of the park. Doesn't relieve the resort from their own negligence.
Feb 16 2015 8:31PM
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S.M.G
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We all know OP is an idiot, but in what situation would it actually be the mountain's fault?

My cousin got FUCKED a few years ago because a trail wasn't roped off properly, then because of the poor conditions she skied into a tower that didn't have any padding on it. Her fault? I don't remember all the legal details but I think the mountain actually did take some responsibility.
Feb 16 2015 8:31PM
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taj.
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plyswthsqrrlsworst case ontario


Frigg off ricky
Feb 16 2015 9:02PM
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hippy.killer
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SLEEVEShaha you guys are cunts.


:'(
Feb 16 2015 9:29PM
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plyswthsqrrls
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jensenThere seems to be a serious misunderstanding here about ski resort liability. I used to work park crew at a large resort in Colorado and have personally seen the mountain settle with people over the most basic accidents ever.

For example, a snowboarder came through the park one day and hit a hip jump. There was a tiny little piece of bamboo stuck in the lip, the guy "hooked his edge" and broke his arm. He was a carpenter and lost two months of work. The mountain settled with him for about $30k. I talked to the risk management guy for the mountain and he was quote, "happy to settle at that price."

I have seen numerous others get new boards/skis for a tiny little edge on or screw sticking up on a rail (even when I can't find said edge or screw).

There is a massive amount of liability involved in running a ski area. When something happens you matter believe that the mountain will be much quicker to talk a settlement with you than they would be to tell you to get lost.

Should he sue is another discussion. I am saying that by the sounds of it, he could definitely have a case on his hands.


jensenBy they way, the resort I worked at had these same EXACT signs posted at the top of the park. Doesn't relieve the resort from their own negligence.


that's good to know actually. Wouldn't have thought a resort could be held liable for accidents like that. Did the guy in question actually bring it to court and win, or did he just argue his ass off and the resort basically paid him to shut up?

With a large colorado resort, I can see that actually making more sense than risking the bad publicity that could come from a court case, but for a smaller ski hill (not sure what mountain OP skis), it would be interesting to know what they would do, because they might not be able to afford to pay someone off like that / might think they would win the case in court

anyone have other stories about this? genuinely curious, because it seems like I might be completely wrong on this
Feb 16 2015 9:40PM
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pow_pow~
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waivers do not mean shit all from a legal standpoint. resorts still hold full liability for any negligent behaviour or activities.

this is definitely the resorts fault. any man made features that were incorrectly made, faulty, or dangerous are on the shoulders of the resort.

this account is especially troubling because a stake sitting out of the snow under a drop like that could result in serious injuries such as impalement and potentially death.

while i hate people suing over things that were quite obviously their fault, this is not one of those things.

my resort had a doctor load the lift incorrectly and the bar on the side of the chair hit her ass and apparently caused some damage. she sued for a shit load for lost wages and shit and the case was completely bullshit because she loaded too far to the side.


that is the suing im against. people trying to make a buck when it was their fault

but in this case it was negligent behaviour from the resort and you are entitled to fair compensation. in this case a new jacket, they can be quite expensive and it is understandable to want it replaced. fuck what the hill manager says, threaten legal action and i can guarantee you will get a new jacket, which is fair.

it is up to you whether you want to actually pursue legal action, personally, i would not, as the costs and time involved fair outweigh the benefits. unless your injuries affected your ability to work.


everyone in this thread that says otherwise are either 12 years old or has never worked for an area that has certain legal and safety obligations.
Feb 17 2015 4:40AM
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pow_pow~
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S.M.GWe all know OP is an idiot, but in what situation would it actually be the mountain's fault?

My cousin got FUCKED a few years ago because a trail wasn't roped off properly, then because of the poor conditions she skied into a tower that didn't have any padding on it. Her fault? I don't remember all the legal details but I think the mountain actually did take some responsibility.


that example is completely the resorts fault, ive worked on ski patrol and you fucking double check to make sure that closed trails are roped and marked accordingly, making sure that there is about double the amount of signage that is required to negate any liability from someone cutting the ropes and claiming they didnt see the signs.

if a trail is closed and not roped off properly that is 100% the mountains fault. once again anyone that has worked in operations (NOT SNOW SPORTS) at a resort would completely understand this.
Feb 17 2015 4:44AM
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Holte
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I'm pretty surprised that OP is Canadian. I guess you're an honorary American or something now though.
Feb 17 2015 4:58AM
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SLEEVES
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I appreciate people with constructive thoughts about this situation. I honestly am not out to make enemies with my home mountain but I feel like I am owed something to an extent. Let me explain that I had hit the wallride 3 times and had inspected it before but because my speed was faster I had fallen over the backside of the wall to the post. I meant to just go up to the top slide it and ollie 180 back into the wall to the ground. Its interesting stories of people who have worked on park crews or if youve been to law school. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to that stuff, Fuck everyone who came on here to bash me or want to punch me in the head or i'm a dickwad? ha I came here for some advice. Keep it coming
Feb 17 2015 10:39AM
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freestyler540
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Ill give you one point: the park crew should have been maintaining the park a little better. Poles and rocks in a park is unacceptable.

Now, thats out of the way, you are responsible and the mountain (and park crew) don't owe you anything except sympathies. That park sign that keeps coming up in threads like yours is to remind you that shit happens, people are stupid and people get lazy. I would like to put yourself in the mountain management shoes in this example:
You build a bike park in your friend's property and invite your friends to take a look. A few days later, a branch from a tree falls on a transition and one of your friends hits it and breaks his collar bone with complications. Your friend sues the owner of the land for not keeping up with the bike park and claims full reparations. How would it be fair for the builder and owner? Be truthful, you would just give 130,000$ because HE hurt HIMSELF?

There are no "injury cash settlement" fund at resorts and centers. They can barely afford to get sued. Compensation cash comes straight from profits and business people will stop at nothing to acquire wealth. As far as they are concerned, they have nothing to you.

Last point I am going to draw is you said you inspected the feature, but landed on a pole that was a foot out. How did you not miss this? Have you ever foreseen the results of falling down the other side of the wall? Like how that pole can stab you? Sure, you can hit it a 1000 times without falling, but that one time could be the big one. All I can say is this is a learning experience for you.

I would like users to bring up old threads about RCR and other resorts for concealing park because of lawsuit fears
Feb 17 2015 11:09AM
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powerbong2000
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lets meet half way so i can beat the shit out of you



What you wanna fight so you can sue me?
Feb 17 2015 12:38PM
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powerbong2000
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what do you think fair compensation would be if I punched your face and broke my hand?
Feb 17 2015 12:38PM
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kalle.
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powerbong2000Date Sent: Feb 17 2015 01:55:11 - (read)
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lets meet half way so i can beat the shit out of you



What you wanna fight so you can sue me?


sue him for threatening you
Feb 17 2015 12:41PM
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theabortionator
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Really need pics of said set up.

It's hard to figure out what the fuck you're talking about. A frame wallrides with stakes? Are we talking like those big tent stakes and a rope to hole something up?

IF that's it then that sounds pretty fucking jenky and you might be able t get another coat out of it.

Really just don't know what you're talkng about. I also don't see why you would need a stake to hold up a wallride, that's what snow is for.


Are we talking the foot on the bottom of the leg of the rail? I really don't get this.

Need some pics.

Definitely look before you leap as well. Gore has some sketchy features. I know they're sketchy, and I skip those features. Just be careful.


PS post the pics


Pic of the wallride
Pic of your jacket
Pic of your sister
Feb 17 2015 12:50PM
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SofaKingSick
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god, why does everything have to be black and white on these forums....?


yes, you ski at your own risk, and we all hate the sue happy culture and its effects on skiing etc

but there is no reason for a stake to be jammed in the snow next to a fucking wallride. that's really dangerous and stupid

i don't know what the result of this particular event should be. glad to hear youre not super hurt-- that'd be a mess in a lot of ways

my personal opinion is that if you are not losing wages or getting nailed with a huge medical bill or anything due to this accident, you shouldn't look for compensation (although honestly i think you maybe could legally), for the sake of good faith.

but i would definitely bitch out the idiots that left the stake there. tell them to take their thumbs out of their asses and clean shit up like that, theyre extremely lucky you don't have a hole in your back right now and theyre not getting sued. if need be, go over their heads and tell the mtn management. you better believe theyre terrified enough of legal cases to whip the idiot park crew into shape asap
Feb 17 2015 12:54PM
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powerbong2000
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Pretty sure the "stake" he is referring to was an unburied part of the feature. Fact of the matter is this, you could fall and hit your face on a donkey dick and die, or smash your face and require plastic surgery. Who's fault is that? Who owes you money? How entitled are you to do some very dangerous shit and get paid out if you fuck yourself up. It's not black and white, it's being on the WRONG end of the gray spectrum.
Feb 17 2015 12:59PM
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theabortionator
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DobberRemember that waiver you signed?


Not every ski area, actually very few require you to sign a waiver
plyswthsqrrlsthat's good to know actually. Wouldn't have thought a resort could be held liable for accidents like that. Did the guy in question actually bring it to court and win, or did he just argue his ass off and the resort basically paid him to shut up?

With a large colorado resort, I can see that actually making more sense than risking the bad publicity that could come from a court case, but for a smaller ski hill (not sure what mountain OP skis), it would be interesting to know what they would do, because they might not be able to afford to pay someone off like that / might think they would win the case in court

anyone have other stories about this? genuinely curious, because it seems like I might be completely wrong on this


The resort definitely can. Even with those signs, and even if they signed a waiver for a comp or park pass things can still go bad unfortunately. You just hope that the signage and if you're lucky waiver make them feel like dicks enough not to try and sue.

A huge one that happened a decade ago was the salvini case. This was the year before I started working in park crew. The settlement was my second year I believe. He got 14 million for

"During the five-week trial at the Regional Justice Center in Kent, engineers and an aeronautics professor from the University of California, Davis, testified the jump was improperly designed and featured a short landing area. Salvini said he was surprised to learn the ski jump had never been designed or tested by engineers."

This is what scared me. You may have an engineering background but what do you know about skiing and snowboarding? These people don't have a background in this and it's easy for them to say something isn't safe when it very well could be.

Now there is a group working on standardizing parks. The problem with that is that the smaller are's building jenky parks (that really could use the change) probably won't follow them or just bail on their parks, and it could curb the creativity of many other parks.

In terrain parks we've learned what worked and what doesn't over the years, that said there is still a wide variety in jumps that work. I just don't want to see terrain parks get bland.

The day a bunch of engineers get involved over seeing every aspect and you have to start jumping through hoops I think I'm making a career change. Maybe buying some land and building my own park for myself and friends and skipping the bs.
Feb 17 2015 1:13PM
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steeze4days
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Quit being a fucking pussy.

You're thread sounds like one of those fucking commercials for compensation from work related injury, you know, the ones that everyone freaking hates.

Quit with the "Im not skiing for a month" bullshit, because if you were fine to get up and ski to patrol then you'll be fine in like a week.

No one owes you shit.
Feb 17 2015 1:22PM
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steeze4days
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SLEEVESwas able to ski to the patrol cabin


SLEEVESIf there was no post in the landing i would have fallen gotten up and skied away. I understand the fine print.


Fuck you OP You're the real cunt here, you keep contradicting yourself buddy!

Must have shittty parents that made you think that everyone owes you something!
Feb 17 2015 1:31PM
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seward
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SLEEVESI hit a stake that the staff neglected to realize.



... that YOU neglected to realize.

Im sure they weren't expecting some cunt to ski over the back of a feature that doesn't have a backing to it.

youre dumb and you should feel dumb.
Feb 17 2015 1:38PM
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