New Vail Bumper Stickers!

600 for an epic pass? WOW.

Ski 20 days for 30 bucks a day and your complaining?

Ski 40 days for 15 bucks a day and your still complaining?

buy a pass if you know you're going to use it, otherwise don't ski Vail!

Does anyone know where I can get a "nobody cares that you ski at Alta" sticker?

KravtZpretty big douche thing to stick on your car. Dont like Vail? dont ski there its simple. They are a large corporation and all about money just like any other company / mountain / person out there. Season pass apparently is still a hell of a deal. If you owned a mountain and could charge 159 a day why wouldnt you?

BloomOuterwearDon't like Vail? Then don't ski at any of their mountains. I dropped about $600 on an Epic Pass this year and guess what, I've skied Vail, Beaver Creek, Park City, Canyons, Breckenridge, Abasin, and Keystone. If anything, Vail Resorts has made skiing more terrain more accessible for me. I have no problem with that.

I would guess they have such a high ticket price to control the amount of people on the mountain. If the ticket price was low, there'd be a lot more people stealing your pow turns or cutting you off in the park, which I would doubt you would like either.

I'm tired of hearing people bitch about Vail Resorts.

These two posts are pretty much the same... Yet the first one has 33 down votes and the one from Bloom has 22 up votes. NS is the most consistently inconsistent forum I have ever been on.

SubstituteThese two posts are pretty much the same... Yet the first one has 33 down votes and the one from Bloom has 22 up votes. NS is the most consistently inconsistent forum I have ever been on.

people on here like to choke on orange dick

I only have the keystone a basin pass. I paid $320 after taxes and a $1 donation to some forestry fund shit. To get JUST the araphoe basin pass it's $310 per season after taxes. I think it's pretty cool Vail resorts let keystone join up with a basin for an affordable pass. as of this week I'm at 26 days so I've paid about $12 per day to ski so far. I agree with the "don't like vail resorts, don't ski there" they made it affordable for me to ski my 3 favorite resorts for the price of one. Granted when I was an employee I used the vail/beaver creek days that they give you for free and those mountains are both FUCKING AMAZING.

Really off topic but who made the stickers. I need some stickers made

BlurstI realize that it takes a hell of a lot more money to run a massive resort like Vail than it does to run a three lift operation like the one that I'm talking about, but I truly believe that it is fair to assume that to operate with a healthy profit for the resort and its parent company, it doesnt need to charge $160 a day for lift tickets. I think that is something that can be universally agreed upon.

Also what does me taking a basic economics course have to do with this argument? I have taken basic economics courses, I've also taken advanced economics courses. Just because I have a different view of how the world should operate doesn't mean that I'm uninformed.

I can get 60 days of skiing at vail resorts for $600 dollars. that costs me 10 bucks a day. 10 fucking dollars a day and i can ski the absolute best parks in the world and some of the best terrain in north america. that kind of makes the mom and pop shit hole ski areas with 1 lift charging 40 bucks seem like a bunch of greedy assholes right?

but srsly, think about this for a second. they give out cheap as hell season passes, basically the best deal out there right now. so all these people that ski 10+ days a year are getting an awesome deal, the people skiing 20,30,40 etc. days a year are getting a really fucking good deal. its hard to make money off the people like me who are paying 10 bucks a day to ski their resorts. so maybe, just maybe, they have to charge more for single day tickets to make up for what they loose from people like me? you can decrease prices in one area, keep prices the same in another area, and somehow maintain the same income.

they make skiing more accessible for people like me and the actual skiers who really love the sport, and to do that they have to charge a little more to the family that flew in from texas to ski a couple days. so what the fuck are you bitching about?? its the absolute ideal situation, make it cheap for people who are serious about it, or want to get into skiing, and make it expensive for the people who just ski a couple days a year max and could care less about the sport.

and good for them for making millions off of us, they deserve it, they have some of the best resorts, the best pass program, and they beat the other resorts to it. its competition, just like any other business, and they won. good for them, sucks for everyone else.

SubstituteThese two posts are pretty much the same... Yet the first one has 33 down votes and the one from Bloom has 22 up votes. NS is the most consistently inconsistent forum I have ever been on.

Hey life aint fair man. Im just a realist. Vail caters and attracts to high net worth families. They don't want average joes who bring their own lunch, stay in off mountain lodging, etc. The epic pass is a hell of a deal and a really great deal for anyone who lives in the area. Maybe my view is biased considering I deal with large companies all day every day who look to buy/sell businesses. But for real...anyone in vail corporate wants to increase share price. Thats what its about. If Vail can charge $159 a day and people will pay they should. Vail doesn't want people who can't afford to spend that. Skiing is a rich white mans sport. They don't want other types of people there

KravtZHey life aint fair man. Im just a realist. Vail caters and attracts to high net worth families. They don't want average joes who bring their own lunch, stay in off mountain lodging, etc. The epic pass is a hell of a deal and a really great deal for anyone who lives in the area. Maybe my view is biased considering I deal with large companies all day every day who look to buy/sell businesses. But for real...anyone in vail corporate wants to increase share price. Thats what its about. If Vail can charge $159 a day and people will pay they should. Vail doesn't want people who can't afford to spend that. Skiing is a rich white mans sport. They don't want other types of people there

Thanks? What did that have to do with what I said? Honestly I don't give a fuck about vail. I have never been there, and I never will go.

SubstituteThanks? What did that have to do with what I said? Honestly I don't give a fuck about vail. I have never been there, and I never will go.

He was just expanding on his originally comment...you know, the one you quoted

i have #fuckvail stickers

Is this more about flipping the bird to corporate mountains for kicking out the core riders? If that is the case, right on man! It sucks when a corporation grows to a point customer relations is no longer important to be able to turn a profit. Its kind of like the War-Mart of ski resorts; no love.
RCR, Vail and other large resorts chains just have to exist to carry on to next year. The CEOs dont really ride their mountains and dont get to know who are behind the dollars.

Local owned mountains struggle, but are always pull through and come up with new plans to build from last season. I look at Ben Oein, Nova Scotia, Canada for having the only mountain in the area, but dedicating everything back to the clientele. They try their best to cater to all levels, even if the terrain is 99% beginner. The only thing holding it back is the board of directors trying to keep it to the "glory days".

During summer training, I got a really bad concussion. Still suffering , but still wanted to ski. I knew I wouldn't be skiing as much, but I still wanted to, but I had to pay the $600 for the Epic, which included all of the other resorts I would not be traveling to....which is ridiculous, in my opinion.

selfiejesusDuring summer training, I got a really bad concussion. Still suffering , but still wanted to ski. I knew I wouldn't be skiing as much, but I still wanted to, but I had to pay the $600 for the Epic, which included all of the other resorts I would not be traveling to....which is ridiculous, in my opinion.

Is an epic pass the only option? Like you can't buy just a regular season pass for the individual mountains?

Not sure how big those stickers are, but you know what people will see from a reasonable follow distance in a car?


VAIL


Even if they see fuck, are you shooting for bad publicity? Is there such a thing in this case? Looks like you're providing free marketing for a giant corporation to me.

MinggIs an epic pass the only option? Like you can't buy just a regular season pass for the individual mountains?

Not really. You can get the epic pass that has EVERY resort plus like 6 days out of the country for the $580 or the epic local pass that includes keystone, breck and a basin plus 10 days at beaver creek and Vail for $385ish? Or just the keystone a basin for $280

Pretty good chance you will get a S&D letter from Vail if you make those. Just a fair warning.

Gulp this one down kiddos:
My Vail Respass was free, pretty much everyone I ski with also got a free pass aka the merchant pass. Merchant passes aren't free, employers are able to buy them to give to employees as a benefit. Those businesses that do not offer a merchant pass have a very difficult time

Lol. It's really not that bad. If you want to ski vail get an epic pass. There are places back east charging almost $100 maybe 100 a day. Some of the mountains in CO are a bit better than those.

I'm honestly priced out of buying more normal lift tickets even.

You could bitch about the hotels in the towns charging too much for a bed. I mean it's a fucking bet that you sleep in for a night. Are they trying to encourage people so sleep in the street? Fuck hotels!


Probably going to work at vail next year. At beaver creek at the moment.

If anything fuck alta and their skier only bullshit :)


/hate me if you can

MinggIs an epic pass the only option? Like you can't buy just a regular season pass for the individual mountains?

No, not anymore unless you wanted to buy day passes. It's dumb.

BlurstBecause its exploitative and makes our sport even more inaccessible to the average person than it already is.

The more people involved with skiing the better, not because "it'll bring more money to the industry mannnnn" but because everyone in the world should have the right to experience something as amazing as we have the privilege of experiencing on a daily, weekly or monthly basis.

Actually I would argue vail makes skiing way more accessible. I paid $500 for my epic pass and I get to ski at about 5 different mountains as many days as I want (except vail, and beaver but 10 at each is still a lot). I spend maybe $650 a year on skiing, food, lodging, and tickets included, that's not bad at all.

The only bad thing about vail is the crowds that those prices draw to the mountains but if you ski the right lifts you won't run into them. Vailification kinda sucks until you think about how much money it saves you.

If they come to snowbird I want 5 for my helmet

malonius_funkSkiing is not intended for the average person. Sure, there are those that make it work, but as a whole skiing is made up of people who have enough time and money to spend it skiing rather than trying to improve their quality of life. You said it yourself; skiing is a privilege. Please don't tell me that if Vail didn't exist everybody would have the resources to be able to ski.

While I don't agree with Vail Resorts plan and their rules and regulations, I do think it is interesting that you say they make our sport "more inaccessible to the average person." You do realize that the Epic Pass gives access to 12+ resorts around the country for what, like $600? I may be wrong, but the $150 gapers and Texans pay for a lift ticket allows Vail to offer the Epic Pass for so cheap therefore allowing many people--who could not afford it otherwise--to be able to ski.

I think that you should think more critically about this issue instead of making a vague rebuttal to an argument.

As a broke ass college kid in CO, the epic pass (aside from skiing backcountry) Is the only feasible way to ski resort. I pay about 500 for an epic local each spring/early summer and I usually average 35 or so resort days. Do the math, the skiing as a day to day price becomes very affordable. Buy yourself and all the poor children an AT Setup so they can "experience skiing" hahah

I judge anybody who reps shit like this and is serious. Something something down with the corporations man!

Skiing should be free!

Also it's not like Vail is the only conglomerate orcorporation in skiing.

Fuck stupid trendy bandwaggon haters.

Or just stay outraged...

If a big corporation was cool, and didn't inhibit my skiing, I wouldn't mind in the slightest. Vail however is the opposite of cool with all their bs with the yellow jackets on runs.

theabortionatorI judge anybody who reps shit like this and is serious. Something something down with the corporations man!

Skiing should be free!

Also it's not like Vail is the only conglomerate orcorporation in skiing.

Fuck stupid trendy bandwaggon haters.

Or just stay outraged...

selfiejesusNo, not anymore unless you wanted to buy day passes. It's dumb.

Wait you can't buy seasons passes for breck vail etc anymore?