Full tilt problem! +K

I would just get the 10 tongue before going in to your fitter.

Booster straps will help with the space around your calf but only to a certain extent, depends on how much of a gap there is, if you've shredded weight from when you got the boots this could be why, as for the noodley feel of the flex, I'd just grab a 8/10 flex tongue from full tilt, that'd sort out the noodle feel, lots of people do say that full tilt tongues are noodley and I know a lot of people who just instantly replace their FT tongues with the 8 or even 10 flex ones. As for the boot fitter charging you, it depends on the fitter, some places give you a lifetime fit guarantee (with some conditions) go in and talk to your fitter, ask him what's best, ask him how much boosters will help, and also if the flex of the boot is too soft for your skiing style and weight, I would do this for you, but I can't say anything for sure because im not there with you.
As long as you go to the same fitter and he's not actually making any modifications to your boot I'd say there should be no charge

Hope everything works out and doesn't cost too much!

steeze4daysHope everything works out and doesn't cost too much!

Thanks for the input! When I went in to get my boots fitted the boot fitter told me that I would be better suited for something like the chronic. He told me if I was in the boosters I would hate them and they would feel washy and noodlely. That being said isn't there no difference between the konflicts and the classics apart from tounge stiffness and aesthetics.
He said the konflicts had a stiffer shell is this true??

CONAIR_BUSCEMIThanks for the input! When I went in to get my boots fitted the boot fitter told me that I would be better suited for something like the chronic. He told me if I was in the boosters I would hate them and they would feel washy and noodlely. That being said isn't there no difference between the konflicts and the classics apart from tounge stiffness and aesthetics.
He said the konflicts had a stiffer shell is this true??

I meant konflicts not chronic

CONAIR_BUSCEMII meant konflicts not chronic

I hate mobile. If you see chronic I meant konflicts and if u see booster I meant booters ski boots

Konflict has the original 3 piece shell which is exactly the same density and flex as every other original shell in FT'S boots. So he's wrong, The Konflicts flex will be just as soft as any other Original shell with a 6 flex tongue, the only difference is the buckles, strap holder and aesthetics of the boot.

(All about the tongue's flex)

steeze4daysKonflict has the original 3 piece shell which is exactly the same density and flex as every other original shell in FT'S boots. So he's wrong, The Konflicts flex will be just as soft as any other Original shell with a 6 flex tongue, the only difference is the buckles, strap holder and aesthetics of the boot.

(All about the tongue's flex)

Classics also have a rigid footbed compared to the konflicts rubber footbed but this would not affect stiffness.

steeze4daysKonflict has the original 3 piece shell which is exactly the same density and flex as every other original shell in FT'S boots. So he's wrong, The Konflicts flex will be just as soft as any other Original shell with a 6 flex tongue, the only difference is the buckles, strap holder and aesthetics of the boot.

(All about the tongue's flex)

Thanks, so I guess i’ll buy a stiffer tounge. Should I go with the 8 or 10?? I’ll also get Booster strap for a better fit because my legs are so noodlely. Not sure if I should get intermediate strap or expert and I’ll go see the boot fitter and see what he can do about the pain. The problem is I think they only carry sure foot footbeds.

CONAIR_BUSCEMIThanks, so I guess i’ll buy a stiffer tounge. Should I go with the 8 or 10?? I’ll also get Booster strap for a better fit because my legs are so noodlely. Not sure if I should get intermediate strap or expert and I’ll go see the boot fitter and see what he can do about the pain. The problem is I think they only carry sure foot footbeds.

If you think that the 6 is waaaaaay to noodle go for the 10, if its just kinda soft for ya get the 8.

Far as booster straps go if theres a fair bit of room behind your calf go for the expert as you can loosen it if you need but the intermediate will only go so tight.

Are you're footbeds custom or just the gel ones you can buy for like $40?
It's never a good idea to buy pre-formed footbeds as everyones foot shape is different, the point of footbeds is too support your foot and if its the wrong shape it can actually do the opposite.

steeze4daysIf you think that the 6 is waaaaaay to noodle go for the 10, if its just kinda soft for ya get the 8.

Far as booster straps go if theres a fair bit of room behind your calf go for the expert as you can loosen it if you need but the intermediate will only go so tight.

Are you're footbeds custom or just the gel ones you can buy for like $40?
It's never a good idea to buy pre-formed footbeds as everyones foot shape is different, the point of footbeds is too support your foot and if its the wrong shape it can actually do the opposite.

i’ll go with the expert and I mean I hadn’t noticed how soft the 6 tongues were until I moved around a lot in deeper snow days. Like I felt so unstable, it felt like my boots were applesauce. What is the 10 tongue equivalent to on a universal scale, if there is such a thing?

By custom do you mean sitting down and having this machine scan the contour lines of your foot, than no. They were about 45 dollars and they were various colors with letters indicating arch type. The boot fitter made me stand on the footbed and determined which letter I was. He then just slipped them in my boots and heat molded them.

Should I get a custom footbed they’re quite expensive.

CONAIR_BUSCEMIi’ll go with the expert and I mean I hadn’t noticed how soft the 6 tongues were until I moved around a lot in deeper snow days. Like I felt so unstable, it felt like my boots were applesauce. What is the 10 tongue equivalent to on a universal scale, if there is such a thing?

By custom do you mean sitting down and having this machine scan the contour lines of your foot, than no. They were about 45 dollars and they were various colors with letters indicating arch type. The boot fitter made me stand on the footbed and determined which letter I was. He then just slipped them in my boots and heat molded them.

Should I get a custom footbed they’re quite expensive.

I believe that a 10 flex is in the 130-140 flex rating ballpark and the 8 is around 110 although there is no exact converter, Yes i mean by taking a scan of the foot and then having the foot-beds made around those measurements, i know a lot of people that don't have custom footbeds, but some people have irregular shaped feet and require a lot of work to get a boot that fits their foot such as shell punching (heating and re-shaping of the actual shell of the boot in certain hotspots for tightness etc) having custom footbeds put in, heat moulding liners, and strategic placement of foam between the shell and liner.

If the pain is really unbearable then what i would do is probably give up on trying to alter your current boots to fit your foot, but if that is the case i would take it up with the person who originaly fitted you as it is the boot fitters job to make sure that the boot is right for your foot shape and to then alter it using punching and recommending things such as footbeds etc.

Did you have your boots fitted at a reputable fitter such as SureFoot?

steeze4daysI believe that a 10 flex is in the 130-140 flex rating ballpark and the 8 is around 110 although there is no exact converter, Yes i mean by taking a scan of the foot and then having the foot-beds made around those measurements, i know a lot of people that don't have custom footbeds, but some people have irregular shaped feet and require a lot of work to get a boot that fits their foot such as shell punching (heating and re-shaping of the actual shell of the boot in certain hotspots for tightness etc) having custom footbeds put in, heat moulding liners, and strategic placement of foam between the shell and liner.

If the pain is really unbearable then what i would do is probably give up on trying to alter your current boots to fit your foot, but if that is the case i would take it up with the person who originaly fitted you as it is the boot fitters job to make sure that the boot is right for your foot shape and to then alter it using punching and recommending things such as footbeds etc.

Did you have your boots fitted at a reputable fitter such as SureFoot?

I’m not sure if he is a reputable fitter. Nevertheless, when I first bought my classics and wore them for three years without footbeds just the liner (stock), I had zero pain but no arch support.

Have you tried skiing without the footbeds in?

steeze4daysHave you tried skiing without the footbeds in?

Yeah, they are the same as my old liners. They feel fine but they are kind of loose and my arches hurt when I land. Plus, if I keep skiing without an arch support I could get flat feet and in the long run it isn’t good for your feet.

Well i'd say that it's down to how much it's really bothering you, if you feel it's something you really can't handle and its affecting your skiing, save up, ski in the boots you have right now until you can afford to go to a reputable boot fitter like SureFoot and get the whole package, boot punched out, custom footbed, i can recommend intuition liners and a heatmold.

In conclusion,You have three options:
1) Spend a hundred bucks or so try the booster straps and 10 flex tongue, hope that does the job and if it doesn't then you're $100 or so down the hole.

2) If its unbearable and you can't handle the pain/uncomfort/performance and don't feel like chancing it and possibly throwing $100 away, go to a reputable boot fitter like surefoot, take your boots with you and ask them if the first fitter you went to did a good job and if the shell of the boot even fits your foot, if it does then ask them to make the required modifications to fix the things that aren't right,
If the shell is completely off and you were fitted wrong take it up with the original fitter and try get a refund (can't guarantee you will get one) or something, go back to the reputable boot fitter with the money you've either saved up or been refunded and get fitted correctly..

Moral of the story, don't go to boot fitter's which are not highly recommended, it takes a professional to fit ski boots, you don't just work in a ski shop take 20 minutes training and then say yeah I'm a boot fitter.
(Of course you could have not told me something like you lost a large amount of weight and slimmed down which would make it your fault and not the fitters)

Hope it all works out bud, thats as far as my knowledge goes!

steeze4daysWell i'd say that it's down to how much it's really bothering you, if you feel it's something you really can't handle and its affecting your skiing, save up, ski in the boots you have right now until you can afford to go to a reputable boot fitter like SureFoot and get the whole package, boot punched out, custom footbed, i can recommend intuition liners and a heatmold.

In conclusion,You have three options:
1) Spend a hundred bucks or so try the booster straps and 10 flex tongue, hope that does the job and if it doesn't then you're $100 or so down the hole.

2) If its unbearable and you can't handle the pain/uncomfort/performance and don't feel like chancing it and possibly throwing $100 away, go to a reputable boot fitter like surefoot, take your boots with you and ask them if the first fitter you went to did a good job and if the shell of the boot even fits your foot, if it does then ask them to make the required modifications to fix the things that aren't right,
If the shell is completely off and you were fitted wrong take it up with the original fitter and try get a refund (can't guarantee you will get one) or something, go back to the reputable boot fitter with the money you've either saved up or been refunded and get fitted correctly..

Moral of the story, don't go to boot fitter's which are not highly recommended, it takes a professional to fit ski boots, you don't just work in a ski shop take 20 minutes training and then say yeah I'm a boot fitter.
(Of course you could have not told me something like you lost a large amount of weight and slimmed down which would make it your fault and not the fitters)

Hope it all works out bud, thats as far as my knowledge goes!

I can afford it. And yes, it is affecting my ability. I looked about sure foot and found a retailer near Killington. So, i’ll take the 3 hour drive up and see what’s up.

Awesome man, Hopefully you get it all sorted and are back to skiing at full performance as soon as possible!