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Help me round out this quiver!

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RagDoll
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Hey everybody long time no post but it's time to fix my quiver and the options these days are pretty insanely wide--just want to get some opinions and start looking in the right direction.

Me: 5'10", 180, 70% freeride/fast charging and 30% playful/poppy skiing on natural terrain. If a ski can drop into a park and hold up at the same time that would be pretty cool too.

Looking for 100-110 ish waist width, 188 is my perfect length but can go a few cm in either direction. Right now the top choice is a 4fnt devastator but I haven't had a chance to flex them yet--toying with the idea of a full reverse camber ski like that one or a gotama.

Currently ski a 191 Rocker 2 122 for pow and a 188 JJ mounted up for touring (probably looking to sell/rethink this rig too).

Just came off a pair of 110 ON3P Jeffries I got hooked up with, but the damn airline ran them over and crushed the shovels--so looking for a similar stick for general purpose/all mountain riding (ON3P still a serious contender, I loved those sticks the few times I got to ski them, but the Jeffrey saw a big change this year).

I ski A LOT of different resorts around the country for work, and when I'm occasionally dumped somewhere that has variable/shitty snow or only a park scene it would be cool to have a fun playful ski that's not going to be overkill, but can still charge if I want to throttle up.

Hope this kinda makes sense, I know there are a shitload of skis in the category right now that play to a lot of different tastes so I'm just looking to get ideas right now.

Any help appreciated!
Feb 4 2015 2:19PM
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B.Quincy
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On3p kartel 98/106
Feb 4 2015 5:46PM
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cobra_commander
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186 ON3P Kartel 106 comes up.
186 Blizzard Peace Maker (most stable of the bunch)
188 Line SFB
Feb 4 2015 6:08PM
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lakelouise
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k2 shreditor 102 best ski ive ever ridden
Feb 4 2015 6:15PM
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cobra_commander
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lakelouisek2 shreditor 102 best ski ive ever ridden


you either suck at skiing, or haven't skied many skis.

Most K2s are 80% skis, you put 60% in, you get 80% back. You put 100% in, you get 80% back. This why they are perfect for about 80% of skiers, because they are all in the backseat.
Feb 4 2015 6:20PM
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RagDoll
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Haven't seen much about how the Kartel's ski--Looked them over as I thought they were basically a fat park ski but I'd like to give them a demo when ON3P comes to town. Anyone ridden them? Stiff/stable at speed?

Some other considerations on my end:

Moment Deathwish PB&J=strong contenders but no Moment dealers close by, would love to give these a test or a flex or hear any opinions

Faction Candide 3.0--haven't heard much in the way of reviews but seem like they would be interesting
Feb 4 2015 6:54PM
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joelski
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188 moment pb and j
Feb 4 2015 6:57PM
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B.Quincy
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RagDollHaven't seen much about how the Kartel's ski--Looked them over as I thought they were basically a fat park ski but I'd like to give them a demo when ON3P comes to town. Anyone ridden them? Stiff/stable at speed?

Some other considerations on my end:

Moment Deathwish PB&J=strong contenders but no Moment dealers close by, would love to give these a test or a flex or hear any opinions

Faction Candide 3.0--haven't heard much in the way of reviews but seem like they would be interesting


Idk if 3.0 would be great in varible snow conditions but hb devestators, or yle
Feb 4 2015 10:43PM
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grifrowl
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Check out Kitten Factory's all mountain ski.
Feb 4 2015 11:28PM
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shin-bang
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cobra_commanderyou either suck at skiing, or haven't skied many skis.

Most K2s are 80% skis, you put 60% in, you get 80% back. You put 100% in, you get 80% back. This why they are perfect for about 80% of skiers, because they are all in the backseat.


could you please elaborate on this?? im not quite sure what your saying but i would like to know. ( not trolling at all i promise)
and yea kitten factory all mtn or the chairman
Feb 5 2015 12:15AM
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cobra_commander
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shin-bangcould you please elaborate on this?? im not quite sure what your saying but i would like to know. ( not trolling at all i promise)
and yea kitten factory all mtn or the chairman


K2's have an incredibly large sweet sweet spot for the ski. The ski behaves pretty much the same if your weight is forward, center, or back. This also means the ski has a lower top end. Its much easier to drive a loose clutch, but don't expect great performance out of them. Its a great ski for 80% of the folks out there. Next time you are on your mountain, look around. Most people are on their tails and skidding their tails around. Most K2s are motherfucking perfect for those people. Which is why they are the top selling ski brand.

Occasionally they hit on a real fucking winner of a ski. AK Launcher, Seth Vicious (98mm), Shreditor 112, come to mind. These skis still have a wide sweet spot, but were able to shred.

On other occasions, they come out with skis with a microscopic sweet spot that ski awesome when there, but are too hard for most people to stay in that spot. The First year pettitor is a prime example.
Feb 5 2015 12:30AM
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