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NinetyFourBut it was the skiers trying to turn it into aerials man, not the judges. The judges were rewarding clean stylish tricks. That's completely a step in the right direction, and something to be proud of.
Completely agree that we should be proud of the way vinny was judged but at the same time other than his crazy double grabbed, scremen semen no one else could break Into the 40s without doing a triple. Jesper landed a couple sick fully grabbed stylin double and was rewarded with a 36. So although the judges made a couple steps in the right direction we are still very far from what the skiing community and most pros think the sport should head
NinetyFourBut it was the skiers trying to turn it into aerials man, not the judges. The judges were rewarding clean stylish tricks. That's completely a step in the right direction, and something to be proud of.
False. Kai Mahler did opp carve dub 9 and 12. New-ish tricks (only he has done them before) and he did them perfect with style and didn't get rewarded. He also did a switch dub misty 14 dub japan, flawless and was beat by a sw dub cork 14 mute... While style, creativity and non-vertical innovation landed vinnie on top, and rightfully so, style and creativity was not rewarded across the board.
mattwalkerFalse. Kai Mahler did opp carve dub 9 and 12. New-ish tricks (only he has done them before) and he did them perfect with style and didn't get rewarded. He also did a switch dub misty 14 dub japan, flawless and was beat by a sw dub cork 14 mute... While style, creativity and non-vertical innovation landed vinnie on top, and rightfully so, style and creativity was not rewarded across the board.
mattwalkerFalse. Kai Mahler did opp carve dub 9 and 12. New-ish tricks (only he has done them before) and he did them perfect with style and didn't get rewarded. He also did a switch dub misty 14 dub japan, flawless and was beat by a sw dub cork 14 mute... While style, creativity and non-vertical innovation landed vinnie on top, and rightfully so, style and creativity was not rewarded across the board.
mattwalkerFalse. Kai Mahler did opp carve dub 9 and 12. New-ish tricks (only he has done them before) and he did them perfect with style and didn't get rewarded. He also did a switch dub misty 14 dub japan, flawless and was beat by a sw dub cork 14 mute... While style, creativity and non-vertical innovation landed vinnie on top, and rightfully so, style and creativity was not rewarded across the board.
I hate to try to argue with you because you're Matt Walker, and we're both gingers. But Looking at these highlights I do feel like Bobby and Elias both had some beautifully stomped landings, while Kai's were somewhat flailed looking in comparison.
I don't know what the judge's current take on poles are either. Kai was the only guy skiing without them and I definitely feel like it makes awkward tricks and grabs easier. But shit the judges loved it when Goepper did it in slope last year so...
Mr.BishopThere is a god for the fact that Vinny won. I mean the rest of that comp was a fucking disaster. I'm embarassed to be a newschool skier in todays day and age.
I officially renounce freeskiing. Apparently you turned into ariels so fuck you I'm going back to the old days where shit was rad.
I completely agree with you on the second point. This X-Games as a whole has been fairly disgusting overall. So many unnecessary falls, poor judging, way, WAY too many spins, typical cringe worthy announcing.
The NS community as a whole is not represented by what this comp has become. It's all designed for television directed to the younger demographic/people who rarely ski. For the beacon of light which are the stylish and creative skiers competing, thank you for doing you.
mattwalkerFalse. Kai Mahler did opp carve dub 9 and 12. New-ish tricks (only he has done them before) and he did them perfect with style and didn't get rewarded. He also did a switch dub misty 14 dub japan, flawless and was beat by a sw dub cork 14 mute... While style, creativity and non-vertical innovation landed vinnie on top, and rightfully so, style and creativity was not rewarded across the board.
BTW - I absolutely fucking love your extremely technical eye for the tricks. We need a Matt Walker commentary overlaid on top of contests bigtime.
Mr.BishopBTW - I absolutely fucking love your extremely technical eye for the tricks. We need a Matt Walker commentary overlaid on top of contests bigtime.
Is there a bootleg way to set up a stream with voice audio from someone like Matt? That would be fucking stellar. There are a lot of people that would put out some hilarious commentary to, things like mocking LVV and Uncle E for letting us know that Kai did indeed have no poles.
And in regards to judging, we're all wrong and this is all that matters:
NinetyFourI don't know what the judge's current take on poles are either. Kai was the only guy skiing without them and I definitely feel like it makes awkward tricks and grabs easier. But shit the judges loved it when Goepper did it in slope last year so...
Judges care about that? I didn't think that mattered at all to be honest.
Man, Vinnie is the shit. Super nice guy and definitely deserves it. I love how he kinda downplayed his trick in the interview. "I just added a grab. Not that big of a deal."
superpipe predictions? hopefully noah bowman gets rewarded. anybody know if someone in the finals is injured? because byron deserved to be on top of that starting list.
Reading through the comments here is just about as entertaining as the event itself haha. Not really but good stuff
That was a highly entertaining evening of thrilling big air, but at what cost?! Like someone said, they all deserve Gold!!
Loved that Vinnie got rewarded for his unique stylish trickery.! He so deserved Gold and its a win for freeskiing as well! Style>spins, although Schlopys spins are worthy! Bobby for his RELENTLESS pursuit of the podium, even after blowing up his helmet!! And 3rd, although I'm happy for Elias, there could've been a 3-way-tie. Mahler, Tjader all were amazing. Wonder how everyone's feeling today haha.
moistCan someone explain to me how Vinnie's trick wasn't a 1260?
I counted a 12. But bishop said something about flips. I didn't see him go off axis but that might be what was referred to when he said the judges had a better angle? i don't know.
Mr.BishopThere is a god for the fact that Vinny won. I mean the rest of that comp was a fucking disaster. I'm embarassed to be a newschool skier in todays day and age.
I officially renounce freeskiing. Apparently you turned into ariels so fuck you I'm going back to the old days where shit was rad.
I think this^ is a big overreaction... There are at least two things that separate Arials from Ski Big Air. One being the jump size/shape. Another being the necessity to grab. These are big differences that I don't see changing in the foreseeable future.
Be happy that your guy won, and just try to enjoy the show haha. You have to give it to these guys, that what they are doing is physically incredible.
