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Do you believe there is a God?

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milk_man
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Do you believe in God? Do you believe there is one God, or many gods? Or no God at all.. Are we alone on earth?


If there is no God then everything is relative, which means morality is relative. If you don't believe in God then where do you gain your sense of right and wrong? From laws and rules created by the GOVERNMENT?


I want interesting discussion, but preferably no one getting mad and offended. I won't get offended if you won't.
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Jan 15 2015 10:07AM
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joshua
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I think it is unfortunate that issues such as the age of the earth often become the main arguing point between Christians and atheists/agnostics. The Gospel is not about proving carbon dating wrong, or proving science wrong. Its about the sinfulness of man and God's redemptive plan. Keep that in mind OP.
Feb 8 2015 9:28PM
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milk_man
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joshuaI think it is unfortunate that issues such as the age of the earth often become the main arguing point between Christians and atheists/agnostics. The Gospel is not about proving carbon dating wrong, or proving science wrong. Its about the sinfulness of man and God's redemptive plan. Keep that in mind OP.


Definitely! I'm not sure when/how the conversation got switched over to that
Feb 8 2015 9:33PM
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roddy116
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zzzskizzzI actually did prove him wrong, but shockingly you're just another religious person that has trouble reading. science 100% disproves that the earth is 12,000 years old that is literally undisputed with people who are not religious. There you go op show this to your smart churchgoers. http://ncse.com/cej/3/2/answers-to-creationist-attacks-carbon-14-dating the problem is the creation scientists in their hypothesis are already starting from a date and if it doesn't fit in within that date they don't use the data unlike people in science who don't have a bias. I'd rather look obnoxious asshole than an uneducated asshole.


well then if you truly believe what you do, then why do you feel a need to argue with others? you must either be a complete snot, or have self doubt in what you believe.
Feb 8 2015 10:01PM
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deleted5
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roddy116well then if you truly believe what you do, then why do you feel a need to argue with others? you must either be a complete snot, or have self doubt in what you believe.


I know you have a really hard time reading. But we're talking about a creationist believing that evolution doesn't exist, and the earth is 12,000 years old because the Bible says so. Not if the earth is not 12,000 years old that means God isn't real. (just for the record he isn't real) Not only is he on able to defend his points, but he's wrong and that's not an opinion. the Bible is not literal we have proven many things in the Bible incorrect both scientifically and historically. yet op still believes, and blindly follows whatever is told to him while ignoring the facts, and being laughed at and finding nothing wrong with it. I have a huge problem with that if you want to let people be stupid then let them.

But how dare you tell me how to live my life, my atheism is my religion and I will not be silenced by you it's so offensive that you would tell me anything else just let me believe what I want to believe and then let me shove it down the throat of others like making a thread about it on newschoolers. K thaaanks
Feb 8 2015 11:28PM
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzBut how dare you tell me how to live my life, my atheism is my religion and I will not be silenced by you it's so offensive that you would tell me anything else just let me believe what I want to believe and then let me shove it down the throat of others like making a thread about it on newschoolers. K thaaanks


Haha whaaa? I don't get why you get so worked up and feel like you have to defend your beliefs. I'm not trying to convert you... lol, I'm not trying to convert anyone. The purpose of this thread was simply to see what people had to say about God and if they believe in him..why? and if they don't believe in him..why?


But don't pretend that it's just me who believes all this. There are plenty of scientists with the magical "Ph.D" that are creationists. Doesn't mean they are any less smart.

By the way-macro evolution isn't a proven fact.. Even though they teach it in school as if it is. It's a theory.. it just happens to be a theory that the scientific community really likes-and that's why everyone believes it.
Feb 8 2015 11:46PM
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzand blindly follows whatever is told to him


You do that with science and scientists.
Feb 8 2015 11:48PM
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deleted5
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milk_manYou do that with science and scientists.


No I don't blindly because unlike you I actually understand the fundamentals of science so I actually understand what they are saying, and why what they're saying is actually going on. its called research, you do it at something called college, if you ever major in something called science, and you should try it sometime. You clearly don't understand yet you discredit it anyway and believe whatever bullshit you believe that's not true.
Feb 8 2015 11:52PM
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deleted5
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milk_manBy the way-macro evolution isn't a proven fact.. Even though they teach it in school as if it is. It's a theory.. it just happens to be a theory that the scientific community really likes-and that's why everyone believes it.


gravity is also just a theory, should we not teach that in the schools either? fossils is just one of many examples and proof for evolution. Take a day and walk through museum, the more you talk the deeper a hole you dig.

you also never addressed my point of no written records or archaeological records of Jewish people being in Egypt or slaves building the pyramids. neither in the Jewish/hebrew or Egyptian records.
Feb 9 2015 12:05AM
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louie.mirags
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Feb 9 2015 8:44AM
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzgravity is also just a theory, should we not teach that in the schools either?


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation[/img]
Feb 9 2015 3:34PM
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deleted5
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milk_manhttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton%27s_law_of_universal_gravitation
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[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity[/URL]

now address Egypt
Feb 9 2015 3:48PM
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deleted5
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
Feb 9 2015 3:49PM
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vailsux.com
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I firmly believe you're all a bunch a faggots.
Feb 9 2015 4:38PM
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roddy116
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zzzskizzzBut how dare you tell me how to live my life, my atheism is my religion and I will not be silenced by you it's so offensive that you would tell me anything else just let me believe what I want to believe and then let me shove it down the throat of others like making a thread about it on newschoolers. K thaaanks


So your a complete snot... K
Feb 10 2015 4:30AM
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Rice
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DJtearegasHEY ATHEISTS, IF THERE IS NO OXYGEN IN SPACE HOW DOES THE SUN BURN?

Christians: 1
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It's not a burning process, it's a nuclear fusion process involving hydrogen.
Feb 10 2015 7:52AM
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las.
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Hey milk_man, serious question:

If God created the stars on the 4th day (thus presumably also creating orbital rotation), how did he know 4 days had elapsed if the concept of days had not existed until then?
Feb 10 2015 8:59AM
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jackdonovan
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las.Hey milk_man, serious question:

If God created the stars on the 4th day (thus presumably also creating orbital rotation), how did he know 4 days had elapsed if the concept of days had not existed until then?


because the 7 day story is not literal
Feb 10 2015 9:54AM
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louie.mirags
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jackdonovanbecause the 7 day story is not literal


it is scary when people think it did happen. Or that Noah actually had 2 of every animal. Please ignore this post though, that is a dark, dark road to go down
Feb 10 2015 10:15AM
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deleted5
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roddy116So your a complete snot... K
Feb 10 2015 11:20AM
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J.D.
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Hey look guys they found him. Seems like he's in a good mood, so that's good.

http://www.iflscience.com/space/smiley-face-galaxy-cluster-spotted-hubble
Feb 10 2015 11:56AM
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milk_man
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Q.McBrewI firmly believe you're all a bunch a faggots.


I will not argue with this
Feb 10 2015 12:48PM
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SFB
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lol this fuckn thread, you people preach about equality and everyone has right to religion but you shit on christianity and say how retarded they all are and not as good as atheists.
Feb 10 2015 12:56PM
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louie.mirags
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las.Hey milk_man, serious question:

If God created the stars on the 4th day (thus presumably also creating orbital rotation), how did he know 4 days had elapsed if the concept of days had not existed until then?


He ignores these types of questions
Feb 10 2015 1:00PM
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Utard
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SFBlol this fuckn thread, you people preach about equality and everyone has right to religion but you shit on christianity and say how retarded they all are and not as good as atheists.


I don't see why those are mutually exclusive. Just because you have the right to be a massive fucking idiot doesn't make you not a massive fucking idiot.
Feb 10 2015 1:08PM
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louie.mirags
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The referenced post has been removed.


I am just happy you used the right form of you're/your. That doesn't get said enough.
Feb 10 2015 1:27PM
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deleted5
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The referenced post has been removed.


I've made a ton of points in this thread nobody on the other side has addressed them. That does not make me a douche, but hey I'm sure name calling is exactly what Jesus would want to do when presented with critical thinking.
Feb 10 2015 1:37PM
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.frenchy
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zzzskizzzI've made a ton of points in this thread nobody on the other side has addressed them. That does not make me a douche, but hey I'm sure name calling is exactly what Jesus would want to do when presented with critical thinking.


You're asking a bunch of kids on a ski forum very complex questions that are not simple to answer, what the hell do you expect? If you really are this butt hurt about religion go to your nearest church and ask the Priest these questions, if you want them answered so badly.....


You bringing Jesus into this made me lol, that was just straight up silly. I feel bad for you if you think me saying "losers" and "try hards" or even "douche" is name calling compared to other things that I could of said..
Feb 10 2015 1:51PM
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deleted5
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.frenchyYou're asking a bunch of kids on a ski forum very complex questions that are not simple to answer, what the hell do you expect? If you really are this butt hurt about religion go to your nearest church and ask the Priest these questions, if you want them answered so badly.....


You bringing Jesus into this made me lol, that was just straight up silly. I feel bad for you if you think me saying "losers" and "try hards" or even "douche" is name calling compared to other things that I could of said..

A priest couldn't anwser any of those question because we've proven them, and they are not wrong. And a priest doesn't know any more about scince then milkman. But I see because you only said some slighly disrespectful but could have said something worse that makes it ok. I belive you can call anyone any name you want. Your the one with the beliefs from a 2,000 year old book that that says otherwise.
Feb 10 2015 2:29PM
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L0gic
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dom_daqNobody can really answer this question for obvious reasons but I do have an opinion.

I believe that the idea of a "God" (or whatever you call him/ them) and a "heaven" that god only sends the good people to was a strategic (and I would argue helpful) lie started by humans to try to improve human behavior. The purpose of religion is to give people a reason to live good lives; to help others, be compassionate, better humanity, etc. Many people get caught up in the other-worldly bullshit that could maybe be true, but I think deep down everyone finds it a bit doubtful. Religion is really about teaching people how to live, not about teaching people what happens once you die.

My point is that some people need religion to live a good life, and props to them for having the motivation to follow the commandments or rules set by religion to better the life of the follower. But personally, I'd rather live a good life on my own terms; I can be a compassionate, helpful and genuine human being without a holy book or preacher telling me how to do it.

That's my 2 cents on religion, sorry for the rant (hopefully it makes sense).


This is the most truuuuuu post I've ever seen
Feb 10 2015 2:36PM
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Culture+
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I don't believe in the gospel. I don't believe in god.As much as I want to I just cant. Science is the only provable means of belief for myself. Everyone is entitled to his or her own beliefs.
Feb 10 2015 2:39PM
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EmperorKuzco
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22bo6CKJcJM

what the fuck happened to embed code. how long have I been under a rock?
Feb 10 2015 2:52PM
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.frenchy
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zzzskizzzA priest couldn't anwser any of those question because we've proven them, and they are not wrong. And a priest doesn't know any more about scince then milkman. But I see because you only said some slighly disrespectful but could have said something worse that makes it ok. I belive you can call anyone any name you want. Your the one with the beliefs from a 2,000 year old book that that says otherwise.


It helps to have proper grammar, you probably spelt a solid 5 words wrong in a few sentences. And once again you're being a fuckin prick. Just stop posting in this thread and get off your damn high horse man. And there's no need to be disrespectful to Priests, why are you saying that milkman is as smart as priests? You're a moron.


No offense to you milk man haha just that priests usually have to go through a lot to become what they are, and it takes a lot of dedication to do. So comparing a priest to your average Christian really isn't a smart thing to do, but I don't expect anything more from zzskiszz or whatever his irrelevant username is.
Feb 10 2015 2:55PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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.frenchyJust shut the hell up, nobody cares. go be a shit head in a different thread.

.frenchyIt helps to have proper grammar, you probably spelt a solid 5 words wrong in a few sentences.


yet you care about stupid shit like grammer and continue to ignore the real questions?

lol

roddy116So your a complete snot... K


nah hes just correct
Feb 10 2015 3:29PM
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.frenchy
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ski.the.eastgrammer


Try again! :^)


All you atheists act like you're so smart and everything, but y'all fucking SUCK at grammar, damn! :)
Feb 10 2015 3:34PM
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.frenchy
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ski.the.eastyet you care about stupid shit like grammer and continue to ignore the real questions?


Nobody's asked me questions anyways, you dumbass.
Feb 10 2015 3:35PM
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IanAvery-Leaf
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.frenchyTry again! :^)


All you atheists act like you're so smart and everything, but y'all fucking SUCK at grammar, damn! :)


I never stated my beliefs so thats an assumption, correct but still an assumption. Whether or not theres a correlation between atheism and spelling issues I don't care about how I spell on an internet forum, my apologies for not proof reading a quick post. You still understood I meant grammar so it really doesnt matter

.frenchyNobody's asked me questions anyways, you dumbass.

this is true, I just saw this thread today and confused you with milk_man, who I hope for humanities sake we can all agree is the closest to "dumbass" in this thread
Feb 10 2015 3:47PM
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.frenchy
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Lol yea I just think we should let this thread die. I think OP knew what would happen if he made a thread like this
Feb 10 2015 3:56PM
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louie.mirags
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EmperorKuzcohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22bo6CKJcJM

what the fuck happened to embed code. how long have I been under a rock?


https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/754744/Science-is-a-Liar-------sometimes
Click on "help?" to explain how it gets embedded
Feb 10 2015 4:22PM
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louie.mirags
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The problem with debating with people who base their ideas on having faith is that as soon as you prove them wrong, they jump back to the having faith argument. These same religious groups made it taboo to hate on Religion so that people feel guilty exploring other ideas against their faith. I would make it taboo too if my ideals had no actual proof. Gotta have faith, mannnnnnnnnnnnnn
Feb 10 2015 4:42PM
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las.
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jackdonovanbecause the 7 day story is not literal


How should we interpret it then? Saying a specific number is about as literal as you can get. So was it 7 days, or was it not? If it didn't actually mean days, what was it referring to?
Feb 10 2015 5:40PM
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roddy116
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las.How should we interpret it then? Saying a specific number is about as literal as you can get. So was it 7 days, or was it not? If it didn't actually mean days, what was it referring to?


not all translations say days.
Feb 10 2015 6:11PM
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jackdonovan
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las.How should we interpret it then? Saying a specific number is about as literal as you can get. So was it 7 days, or was it not? If it didn't actually mean days, what was it referring to?


im not very religious/ a strong christian but i go occasionally and i take theology in hgh school. I interprete as the way god created earth it has nothing to do with days or time just the way it was created. However, i also dont believe in the 7 day story i believe in evolution but about the creation of the universe or life as it is then i would believe in God.
Feb 10 2015 6:48PM
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las.
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roddy116not all translations say days.


jackdonovanim not very religious/ a strong christian but i go occasionally and i take theology in hgh school. I interprete as the way god created earth it has nothing to do with days or time just the way it was created. However, i also dont believe in the 7 day story i believe in evolution but about the creation of the universe or life as it is then i would believe in God.


Neither of you answered my question. If it wasn't literally 7 days, what was it?
Feb 10 2015 7:43PM
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roddy116
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las.Neither of you answered my question. If it wasn't literally 7 days, what was it?


thats the beauty of argument, tons of people think its seven days, tons of people thinks its something else. Everyones going to say different, If you think you can get an answer I would say thats rather ignorant of you.
Feb 10 2015 7:45PM
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las.
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louie.miragsit is scary when people think it did happen. Or that Noah actually had 2 of every animal. Please ignore this post though, that is a dark, dark road to go down


It's a fair comparison though. They are both equally absurd
Feb 10 2015 7:47PM
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JGWI
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This is a stupid argument.
Feb 10 2015 7:47PM
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las.
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roddy116thats the beauty of argument, tons of people think its seven days, tons of people thinks its something else. Everyones going to say different, If you think you can get an answer I would say thats rather ignorant of you.


I am asking you personally. Did it take literally 7 days, or not? Please expand on your answer
Feb 10 2015 7:52PM
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jackdonovan
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las.I am asking you personally. Did it take literally 7 days, or not? Please expand on your answer


idgaf
Feb 10 2015 8:10PM
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JEWmanji
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2 words: Kanye west
Feb 10 2015 8:17PM
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jackdonovan
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las.I am asking you personally. Did it take literally 7 days, or not? Please expand on your answer


It can be interpreted different ways, idk why you're struggling with this concept so much, most of the bible is not literal but is metaphors and figurative language. You can interpret it the way you want
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