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Do you believe there is a God?

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milk_man
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Do you believe in God? Do you believe there is one God, or many gods? Or no God at all.. Are we alone on earth?


If there is no God then everything is relative, which means morality is relative. If you don't believe in God then where do you gain your sense of right and wrong? From laws and rules created by the GOVERNMENT?


I want interesting discussion, but preferably no one getting mad and offended. I won't get offended if you won't.
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Jan 15 2015 10:07AM
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Brule.
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/759590/Neil-deGrasse-Tyson--Atheist-or-Agnostic-
Mar 4 2015 5:21PM
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miroz
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Brule.https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/759590/Neil-deGrasse-Tyson--Atheist-or-Agnostic-


Amen. But perhaps more up your alley:

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/759614/The-Planets---Check-It-Out--With-Dr--Steve-Brule---Adult-Swim
Mar 4 2015 6:17PM
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milk_man
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CirilloI then told him how fossil fuels take hundreds of millions of years to form and if the world was only 6000 years old the fuel he puts in his car shouldn't exist. His response to this was that fossil fuels taking that long to form was basically a lie from god testing his faith and that they're really not that old.


If there was a catastrophic event that quickly covered tons of vegetation with mud, it wouldn't take nearly that long for fossil fuels to form.


And actually in my case, yes it is the same person
Mar 4 2015 7:36PM
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deleted5
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milk_manIf there was a catastrophic event that quickly covered tons of vegetation with mud, it wouldn't take nearly that long for fossil fuels to form.


And actually in my case, yes it is the same person


Lol wut?
Mar 4 2015 8:04PM
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzLol wut?


Yup
Mar 4 2015 8:10PM
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butterfactory
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I don't believe there is a god, but I still go to church sometimes and help people out because christian values are dope.
Mar 4 2015 8:15PM
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milk_man
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butterfactorybut I still go to church sometimes and help people out because christian values are dope.


For sure dude
Mar 4 2015 8:27PM
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987321654hgfd
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milk_manIf there was a catastrophic event that quickly covered tons of vegetation with mud, it wouldn't take nearly that long for fossil fuels to form.


Even if it sped the process up 1000x it would still take hundreds of thousands of years. Still significantly longer than 6000 years.
Mar 4 2015 9:03PM
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milk_man
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CirilloEven if it sped the process up 1000x it would still take hundreds of thousands of years. Still significantly longer than 6000 years.


How is there any way to prove that?
Mar 4 2015 9:16PM
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SupremeDeity
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CirilloEven if it sped the process up 1000x it would still take hundreds of thousands of years. Still significantly longer than 6000 years.


stfu the earth is only 2000 years old
Mar 4 2015 9:38PM
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987321654hgfd
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SupremeDeitystfu the earth is only 2000 years old


I think you mean 2015 years old.
Mar 4 2015 9:47PM
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Chvf
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Yes, there is one god and his name is Candide Thovex.
Mar 4 2015 10:11PM
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milk_man
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This thread has gone nowhere for 12 pages
Mar 4 2015 10:45PM
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yeahno
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milk_manHow is there any way to prove that?


nifty thing called science
Mar 4 2015 10:46PM
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deleted5
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milk_manYup


this entire thread has just been me explaining things to you I'm getting pretty tired and bored of it. so I will just leave that Point alone and state you're wrong that's not how it works. I'm actually quite curious to put that idea into your head.
Mar 4 2015 10:52PM
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzthis entire thread has just been me explaining things


You're so good at doing that, I feel honored to have you in this thread
Mar 4 2015 10:55PM
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deleted5
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milk_manYou're so good at doing that, I feel honored to have you in this thread


I don't care if you feel honored. Take in the information and learn it then sit down and have a critical thinking session.
Mar 4 2015 11:21PM
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miroz
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milk_manThis thread has gone nowhere for 12 pages


Here's the deal.

You are free to believe whatever you want, and I respect that right. To each their own. However, don't say that science supports those beliefs, because it doesn't. In this situation, you don't get to have your cake and eat it, too. You've been trying to argue for creationist science, but the only response that needs to be given is that "you can find evidence for anything if you set out looking for it." That's not science, and the fact that not only is there no consensus about it but that there is in fact large consensus against it only belittles your point.

inb4 frenchy tells me I'm butthurt: believe what you want, please. I don't care. But don't call it science.
Mar 5 2015 12:41AM
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toastyteenagers
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ok here's my .02$
im Christian, even if your not religious the bible has some good stories and good morals too.

inb4 angry reply by zzz
Mar 5 2015 12:53AM
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-benedetto
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I was going to avoid this thread until I saw this meme and just have to post it in good fun.

Mar 5 2015 8:20PM
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deleted5
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toastyteenagersok here's my .02$
im Christian, even if your not religious the bible has some good stories and good morals too.

inb4 angry reply by zzz


I'm only angry if you believe God created the world in 7 days the earth is 12,000 years old Jesus was born from a virgin and God sent a flood that cover the entire world.
Mar 5 2015 9:00PM
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzI'm only angry if you believe God created the world in 7 days the earth is 12,000 years old Jesus was born from a virgin and God sent a flood that cover the entire world.


Why do you care so much about what other people believe?
Mar 6 2015 12:24PM
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louie.mirags
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milk_manWhy do you care so much about what other people believe?


I will answer that. Because some people who believe that (or pretend to believe that for votes) run this country. That is fucking scary.
Mar 6 2015 12:57PM
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987321654hgfd
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milk_manWhy do you care so much about what other people believe?


Well this thread was started to discuss this topic. I wouldn't just call some random person out on the street for their beliefs unless they're getting at me about mine.

louie.miragsI will answer that. Because some people who believe that (or pretend to believe that for votes) run this country. That is fucking scary.


This.

It's also hard to listen to someone believe something that is so obviously wrong. Reading someone believe in a virgin giving birth, or that the earth is ridiculously young is like reading about someone who staunchly believes the sky is green. It's not, virgins cannot give birth and the earth is old as fuck. Scientifically proven.
Mar 6 2015 1:08PM
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las.
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milk_manWrong. You speak as if there is no scientific evidence for a young earth.


There isn't. You're delusional

.frenchyInsecure? No not at all, I am just finding it hilarious that you atheists are still replying to this thread hahahahaha, wanna get your post count up or something?


It's just the way you always respond to these types of threads - not actually contributing anything, only laughing nervously and insulting people who you don't agree with or understand. You're obviously extremely insecure about your beliefs. If you're not though, why don't you just leave the thread? What are you trying to prove?

milk_manWhy do you care so much about what other people believe?


Says the person who started a thread asking others about their beliefs. Aside from that, it's necessary to confront this sort of toxic ignorance and try to eradicate it from the world, for the sake of human kind's progression and survival.
You can believe whatever supernatural rubbish you want - just keep it to yourself. Don't try and teach it to innocent children, and don't try to have laws passed whereby the rest of us are forced to listen to and tolerate your stupefying nonsense
Mar 6 2015 5:46PM
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dmski
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toastyteenagersThis thread is going to be 3 pages long


How wrong you were.
Mar 6 2015 6:20PM
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toastyteenagers
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dmskiHow wrong you were.


right
Mar 6 2015 8:37PM
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minihef
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toastyteenagersok here's my .02$
im Christian, even if your not religious the bible has some good stories and good morals too.


It also has lots of cruel and brutally violent stories and morals too. If you use your own innate moral compass to ignore or reject all of those then why do you even need the nice bits of the bible? You're already one step ahead of the bible morally by rejecting all the shitty things God did.
Mar 7 2015 12:38PM
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milk_man
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minihefIf you use your own innate moral compass to ignore or reject all of those then why do you even need the nice bits of the bible?


Humans justify all sorts of cruel and stupid things. That's why we need a law set in place that even the government can't dismantle. And that is the basic law that Christians go by
Mar 8 2015 10:00AM
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deleted5
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milk_manHumans justify all sorts of cruel and stupid things. That's why we need a law set in place that even the government can't dismantle. And that is the basic law that Christians go by


Right like the Crusades.
Mar 8 2015 11:40AM
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airplaneface
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Brule.https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/759590/Neil-deGrasse-Tyson--Atheist-or-Agnostic-


Dang, this video is sick. Everyone in this thread should listen to the first minute of this video and then continue to yell at each other.
Mar 8 2015 12:02PM
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toastyteenagers
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milk_manChristianity isn't an Old Testament religion


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Mar 8 2015 1:08PM
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milk_man
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zzzskizzzRight like the Crusades.


Ok Obama
Mar 8 2015 8:23PM
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minihef
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milk_manHumans justify all sorts of cruel and stupid things. That's why we need a law set in place that even the government can't dismantle. And that is the basic law that Christians go by


The basic law 'good Christians' live by completely disregards the massive swathes of the bible which condone actions which any decent person would consider immoral by modern standards.

Slavery, genocide, rape, infanticide, extreme violence are all enacted or encouraged by the god of the bible, but the vast majority of people reject or ignore those aspects because they are in contravention of people's own innate morality.

Therefore to claim that the bible is a prerequisite for good behaviour is asinine and ignores the

To prove these assertions wrong simply give one example of a moral behaviour that Christians are capable of that atheists aren't?

Furthermore your point about a religious law needing to be above the government is in direct contravention to the American Constitutions which establishes a separation of church and state by asserting that no religin should ever
Mar 9 2015 1:56AM
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minihef
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milk_manHumans justify all sorts of cruel and stupid things. That's why we need a law set in place that even the government can't dismantle. And that is the basic law that Christians go by


The basic law 'good Christians' live by completely disregards the massive swathes of the bible which condone actions which any decent person would consider immoral by modern standards.

Slavery, genocide, rape, infanticide, extreme violence are all enacted, encouraged or condoned by the god of the bible, but the vast majority of people reject or ignore those aspects because they are in contravention of people's own innate morality.

Therefore to claim that the bible is a prerequisite for good behaviour is asinine and ignores the fact that humans decide for themselves what is moral rather than taking instruction from a book.

To prove my assertions wrong simply give one example of a moral behaviour that Christians are capable of that atheists aren't?

Furthermore your point about a religious law needing to be above the government is in direct contravention to the American Constitutions which establishes a separation of church and state by asserting that no religion should ever take precedence in government.
Mar 9 2015 2:00AM
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-benedetto
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las.There isn't. You're delusional



It's just the way you always respond to these types of threads - not actually contributing anything, only laughing nervously and insulting people who you don't agree with or understand. You're obviously extremely insecure about your beliefs. If you're not though, why don't you just leave the thread? What are you trying to prove?



Says the person who started a thread asking others about their beliefs. Aside from that, it's necessary to confront this sort of toxic ignorance and try to eradicate it from the world, for the sake of human kind's progression and survival.
You can believe whatever supernatural rubbish you want - just keep it to yourself. Don't try and teach it to innocent children, and don't try to have laws passed whereby the rest of us are forced to listen to and tolerate your stupefying nonsense




This thread is like cancer but this guy has the cure! Great post.
Mar 9 2015 8:19AM
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louie.mirags
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milk_manHumans justify all sorts of cruel and stupid things. That's why we need a law set in place that even the government can't dismantle. And that is the basic law that Christians go by


you mean like the Christians who hate on gays and bomb abortion clinics? Or like the crusades and holy wars of the past? Or the Christians who sold indulgences to get rich? Or the priest who touched little boys? Or the rich pastors who drive cadillacs and their only income is donations?
Mar 9 2015 10:46AM
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milk_manThis thread has gone nowhere for 12 pages


How is there any way to prove that?
Mar 9 2015 11:22AM
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louie.mirags
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Mr.SaltyHow is there any way to prove that?


gotta have faith
Mar 9 2015 11:51AM
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FerrisBueller
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milk_manOh so humans didn't come from chimpanzees at all? We are finally agreeing on something lol.. no you just don't understand my point


milk_manYou've been speaking this whole time as if we are a small, blind minority. But look at the facts




You need to fucking educate yourself man and learn what is real and what is fiction. The Earth is ~4.6 billion years old (and so is the sun and the other planets in this solar system). Our universe is 13.8 billion years old. There are ~100 billion stars in our galaxy and there are more than 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe. Each star (100 billion * 100 billion = 10^22 total stars) it is estimated to have on average two planets orbiting them. It is absolutely beyond ridiculous to believe and think that the Earth is 12,000 years old. Some "god" or source energy may have created the universe 13.8 billion years ago, but he has had nothing to do with your measly existence other than set the laws of physics and chemistry that are conductive to your existence. I am a very spiritual person, but the fact that you have such a closed mind to the reality that awaits you tells me that you are not very far along your spiritual evolution process. I am just trying to help educate you and bring to your attention the place that your paradigm should reside.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium-lead_dating

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
Mar 24 2015 1:18AM
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-benedetto
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https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/763433/Duncan-Trussell-goes-to-God--39-s-house
Mar 25 2015 4:03PM
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milk_man
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Round 13 of discussion anyone? lol
Sep 7 2015 6:14PM
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milk_manRound 13 of discussion anyone? lol


Sep 7 2015 6:56PM
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SterlingArcher
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there is no God only Zuel
Sep 7 2015 7:05PM
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milk_man
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https://www.facebook.com/NBCNews/posts/1629049327115091

This may cause many people to believe in God
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TheHamburglar
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People believe in gods in their attempts to allay their fear of death, personal failures, etc. Those who put their faith in a god don't like to take responsibility, and rest easier with the idea that humans and our actions are not purely autonomous.

Anyone who still believes in god in 2016 is a freak.
Dec 21 2016 4:13PM
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milk_man
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TheHamburglarPeople believe in gods in their attempts to allay their fear of death, personal failures, etc. Those who put their faith in a god don't like to take responsibility, and rest easier with the idea that humans and our actions are not purely autonomous.

Anyone who still believes in god in 2016 is a freak.


Many, many people still believe in God. Also pretty much everything you said is blantantly false. How old are you?
Dec 21 2016 4:24PM
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TheHamburglar
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milk_manMany, many people still believe in God. Also pretty much everything you said is blantantly false. How old are you?


I know plenty of people believe in god, even in America. They also somehow elected a human Cheez-it, so that doesn't say much.

You can't prove what I said was false, just like I can't prove it's true. It's my opinion, stupid. I'm 25, you're about 16.
Dec 21 2016 4:27PM
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milk_man
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TheHamburglarI know plenty of people believe in god, even in America. They also somehow elected a human Cheez-it, so that doesn't say much.

You can't prove what I said was false, just like I can't prove it's true. It's my opinion, stupid. I'm 25, you're about 16.


I can prove it's false. You said people believe in God because of blah, blah, blah. Well, that's not why I believe in God, so you're wrong.

19 but have the accomplishments of 21.
Dec 21 2016 4:32PM
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TheHamburglar
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milk_manI can prove it's false. You said people believe in God because of blah, blah, blah. Well, that's not why I believe in God, so you're wrong.

19 but have the accomplishments of 21.


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