Ive noticed alot of hate on newbs on NS and its not always unwarranted, but you ve got to give them a chance and here's their 'chance'. An automated message is sent to them the first time they log in explaining how NS works, NS ethics, and a short tutorial (Written by an intelligent surly NS veteran). If they are still idiots, at least we gave them a chance to be competent and they wont have an excuse for it. Feedback?