Rail progression

For swaps, start with surface swaps. Blind surface swaps are easier than front imo. Start with those, then try front surface swaps. When you're comfortable with that, pop a little(almost pretend you're gonna 2 off, but not at the end of the rail/box/tube). Pedal/scissor the same way you would when spinning off.

When you get swaps on lock, try different variations of swaps to 2 out. (Front swap front 2. Front swap, back 2. Back swap front 2. Back swap back 2)

Also, you could try coming on switch, lip slides, switch lip, and urban on.

thanks, i was trying front swaps thinking they would be easier, got lip slides and switch lip slides on lock. any tips for surface swaps on tubes. i kept catching the tip of my ski on the side of the tube

alta3773thanks, i was trying front swaps thinking they would be easier, got lip slides and switch lip slides on lock. any tips for surface swaps on tubes. i kept catching the tip of my ski on the side of the tube

I have the same problem. I'm inconsistent with them on tubes for that reason. You sort of need to pedal/ scissor, get the spin started and then bring your feet back to flat, and use your momentum and upper body to finish the spin. I'm not sure if that's how other people do it, but I've had more success doing it that way.

alta3773thanks, i was trying front swaps thinking they would be easier, got lip slides and switch lip slides on lock. any tips for surface swaps on tubes. i kept catching the tip of my ski on the side of the tube

you can sw lip but you can't switch up..?

for the surface swaps just grip and get yourself rotating but keep your skis closer together so you don't get caught up.

and yeah OP you're doing the right progression by going to 2's on and swaps. Just practice. try front 4 out too.

Mingg is a master she'll teach you everything. ;)

Minggurban on

I've heard this thrown around on NS a few times; is "urban on" just sliding rails that don't have straight lips? like hitting down rails from the side, etc.? or am I missing something

SnowMiserI've heard this thrown around on NS a few times; is "urban on" just sliding rails that don't have straight lips? like hitting down rails from the side, etc.? or am I missing something

Yup, exactly. You just come on from the side of rail.

anyone got any tips for ray charles? I can kfed ellen and brittany all relatively easy. The closest ive come to it is doing a back swap to switch, i just cant get the back 2

jackdonovananyone got any tips for ray charles? I can kfed ellen and brittany all relatively easy. The closest ive come to it is doing a back swap to switch, i just cant get the back 2

can you BS 270 from your unnatural stance?

it depends on the size of the rail and your style.

If it's a really small rail I'll stop my upper body half way through the first switch up, so my shoulders are facing straight up hill. Then when I feel like I'm close to the end I start to twist my upper body back the other way and do most of the spinning with my lower body.

If it's a longer rail and I have more time I'll commit fully to the BS switch up, bringing my shoulders around and looking for the end of the rail. If I nail the switch up and I'm still locked on the BS 270 is pretty effortless, just scissor and turn your head back up hill.

It takes a lot of practice and it's definitely the hardest of the switch up+270 out combos, so just keep at it.

am i the only one around here that thinks that "urban on" is just the right way to hit a rail and that straddling it is should just be called "Gaper on" idk maybe i am just pretentious or something.

YOU-FUCKING-FUCKcan you BS 270 from your unnatural stance?

it depends on the size of the rail and your style.

If it's a really small rail I'll stop my upper body half way through the first switch up, so my shoulders are facing straight up hill. Then when I feel like I'm close to the end I start to twist my upper body back the other way and do most of the spinning with my lower body.

If it's a longer rail and I have more time I'll commit fully to the BS switch up, bringing my shoulders around and looking for the end of the rail. If I nail the switch up and I'm still locked on the BS 270 is pretty effortless, just scissor and turn your head back up hill.

It takes a lot of practice and it's definitely the hardest of the switch up+270 out combos, so just keep at it.

i can back 2 from my unnatural stance, but after the backswap i lose my edge and slip off instead of doing a back 2

alta3773am i the only one around here that thinks that "urban on" is just the right way to hit a rail and that straddling it is should just be called "Gaper on" idk maybe i am just pretentious or something.

there's already a name for straddling the rail, it's called retarded.
also urban on just specifies that the rail is above the lip, of course its the right way to hit it.