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Felony Hat-Trick

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benyannelli
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I know NS is not the place for legal advice but figured this would at least entertain you guys.

2 Months ago I got in a fight with a kid and my friend took his bag.
We got Charged with 2nd Degree Assault, Aggravated Robbery, and Conspiracy to Commit Robbery (All 3 are felonies). I spent 6 Days in Jail before getting bailed out (Routt County), and I had to move back to home to NJ from CO because I got kicked out of my res hall at cmc steamboat.

Today i just got my first plea offer: 10 Months in Jail, 4 years probation (deferred judgement on felony), 300 hours community service, and I have to pay restitutions for medical bills

I would be pleaing guilty to robbery (f4 deferred judgement) and a 3rd degree assault misdemeanor. If i completed the probo successfully then after 4 years the felony wouldn't be on my record.

My Questions to NS:
Has anybody else been in a similar situation?
Whats the worst thing you've been arrested for and what was the outcome?
Do you think I will get a better plea offer as the case goes on?
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Jan 7 2015 9:59PM
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timmi
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I've never been arrested because I'm not shitty
Jan 7 2015 10:03PM
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benyannelli
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timmiI've never been arrested because I'm not shitty


but your from Canada where you can pretty much get away with anything
Jan 7 2015 10:04PM
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Old-schooler.
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Get a lawyer...
Jan 7 2015 10:06PM
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benyannelli
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Old-schooler.Get a lawyer...


got 2
Jan 7 2015 10:08PM
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Sky.
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timmiI've never been arrested because I'm not shitty


Not all people who are arrested are shitty, you sound shitty.
Jan 7 2015 10:08PM
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Old-schooler.
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People get arrested all the time, doesn't mean they are shitty. I'm starting to think you're the shitty one here.
Jan 7 2015 10:09PM
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Peter.
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ben_dovergot 2


so do what your lawyer says. odds are he knows more about this stuff than some random kid on newschoolers
Jan 7 2015 10:12PM
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kshaughn
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ben_doverDo you think I will get a better plea offer as the case goes on?


I mean there is always a chance for that but you can't guarantee it. You also never know what your friend is going to do- he could be offered a lighter sentence in exchange for more information you.

If you don't take the plea deal and you go to court, you have to weigh the outcomes. What are the odds you will be found not guilty (that might be tough depending on the evidence)? If found guilty in court, what will your sentence probably be? If 10 months in jail is significantly better than the worse possible outcome, then I say take the plea deal. If you think the odds are in your favor to be found not guilty, then maybe keep going and take it to trial.

You also have to consider the longer this gets played out, the higher your bill will be from your lawyers.
Jan 7 2015 10:16PM
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kshaughn
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ben_doverDo you think I will get a better plea offer as the case goes on?


I mean there is always a chance for that but you can't guarantee it. You also never know what your friend is going to do- he could be offered a lighter sentence in exchange for more information you.

If you don't take the plea deal and you go to court, you have to weigh the outcomes. What are the odds you will be found not guilty (that might be tough depending on the evidence)? If found guilty in court, what will your sentence probably be? If 10 months in jail is significantly better than the worse possible outcome, then I say take the plea deal. If you think the odds are in your favor to be found not guilty, then maybe keep going and take it to trial.

You also have to consider the longer this gets played out, the higher your bill will be from your lawyers.
Jan 7 2015 10:16PM
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Casey
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Listen to your lawyers. The deferral is probably the most important thing. A felony on your record will haunt you for life. Your next pre trial hearing will probably your lawyer and the prosecutor hammering out how long your jail sentence will be. If I were you I would check into counseling and go to rehab. Any bargaining chip to sway the judge in your favor. Get some upstanding people to write letters to vouch for your character. You know, scummy fake bullshit that everyone does to convince the judge they aren't a total piece of shit even though they clearly are. Good luck.
Jan 7 2015 10:35PM
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benyannelli
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CaseyListen to your lawyers. The deferral is probably the most important thing. A felony on your record will haunt you for life. Your next pre trial hearing will probably your lawyer and the prosecutor hammering out how long your jail sentence will be. If I were you I would check into counseling and go to rehab. Any bargaining chip to sway the judge in your favor. Get some upstanding people to write letters to vouch for your character. You know, scummy fake bullshit that everyone does to convince the judge they aren't a total piece of shit even though they clearly are. Good luck.


thanks for the advice. I am alreaqdy in an outpatient rehab becaue I am a "weed addict" 62 days clean
Jan 7 2015 10:37PM
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crotchvent
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Don't drop the soap.






Don't have any real advice to give but I wish you luck.
Jan 7 2015 10:39PM
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swaggerboi
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honestly, go to jail. it would be so bad ass. youll have that to brag about all the rest of your bad ass life.
Jan 7 2015 11:04PM
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Caucasian_Asian
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crotchventDon't drop the soap.


OP's username is relevant.
Jan 7 2015 11:08PM
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crotchvent
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Caucasian_AsianOP's username is relevant.


Haha totally didn't notice his username at first.
Jan 7 2015 11:15PM
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Rusticles
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So you're telling me that they're going to pin 3 felonys on you for getting in a fight and stealing a kids bag? Seems a little steep, no? Is there more to the story? Was it more of a two on one beat down and the kid is clinging to life? Just seems like you should be getting a better plea?? Dunno, I'm no expert
Jan 7 2015 11:17PM
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benyannelli
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RusticlesSo you're telling me that they're going to pin 3 felonys on you for getting in a fight and stealing a kids bag? Seems a little steep, no? Is there more to the story? Was it more of a two on one beat down and the kid is clinging to life? Just seems like you should be getting a better plea?? Dunno, I'm no expert


it wasnt an unfair fight but he sustained a broken jaw which is why we got 2nd degreee
Jan 7 2015 11:19PM
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Rusticles
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ben_doverit wasnt an unfair fight but he sustained a broken jaw which is why we got 2nd degreee


A broken jaw? Seriously? Maybe it's because I'm from Canada but I'm surprised it's gone this far. You had a beef with this kid got in a fight punches were thrown and his jaw got broken? Is he getting charged? What's your friend getting?
Jan 7 2015 11:24PM
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Bombogenesis
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Color me stupid but that sounds like a lot of punishment for a rather mundane crime. I mean, it's an animalistic instinct to fight and we are animals. Sure, were supposed to be held to a higher more civil standard due to our advanced intelligence but that is a freaking doozy. Is it mostly the robbery?
Jan 7 2015 11:28PM
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DirtYStylE
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Tell the kid your sorry so he won't press charges. Otherwise your fucked. Have fun in jail
Jan 7 2015 11:34PM
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TOAST.
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Miss 1 ski season or miss multiple. Also I think the skiing part is the least of your worries.
Jan 8 2015 9:00AM
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Steezy_IN_KC
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Yikes, how badly did you hurt the kid?!

I'd take the plea. I don't think they are going to get any better from here.
Jan 8 2015 9:25AM
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iSmokeweed
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give the judge a warm handjob
Jan 8 2015 9:37AM
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JAHBRADOR
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Get ready to eat bowl after bowl of ass salad
Jan 8 2015 9:49AM
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CrotchKiller
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Why would you take the kids bag after you just beat his ass?
Jan 8 2015 9:53AM
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steezysteeze
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OP please give us the story on how this all went down.
Jan 8 2015 12:12PM
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49566738265
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Did you conspire to beat this kid up and steal his shit? Because if you did I don't know why you think you'll win and you should take the plea offer to save time, money, and possibly time.
Jan 8 2015 12:45PM
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icculus.
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get an attorney or lawyer?
Jan 8 2015 1:05PM
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Yaraelpoof.png
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Hey op your username is relative to what you will be doing in prison. Getting prison raped you criminal scum
Jan 8 2015 1:22PM
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steeze4days
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ben_dovergot 2


From the sound of your situation, You're gonna need 3 bud.
Jan 8 2015 1:29PM
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benyannelli
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CrutchKillerWhy would you take the kids bag after you just beat his ass?


did not know that my friends had taken his bag untill i got into his car
Jan 8 2015 1:49PM
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The.Doctor
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Put it on your friend, give them info before he does, Bobs your Uncle youre scott free and skiing, Jimmy!
Jan 8 2015 1:55PM
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Panda_with_Guns
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lol whaaat. My roommate at school is facing 9 felonies for car hopping and he probably wont even have to go to jail says his lawyer. good luck OP!
Jan 8 2015 4:26PM
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notspoicey
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Wait...are you the one who made the thread about you and your band wanting to move to boulder from new jersey, because the cops were after you???

9/10 pretty sure you're the same guy
Jan 8 2015 4:40PM
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