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Bindings Drilled too deep? Will this be a problem at all?

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Mrworm10
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So I recently brought my brand new skis to a local shop to get them mounted. The skis are the 13/14 ON3P Jeronimos and they were mounted with Look PX12's. When I got them back, I noticed 1 small blemish, one of the screws from the toepiece was drilled a tiny bit too deep I think and has created a little bump on the base of the ski. Here are some pics because I do deliver:


Last picture really kinda blows the actual bump out of proportion a little bit, it isnt that big. The other two picture represent the size a little better. I know I might just sound really paranoid or something but I just really wanna make sure these babies last as long as possible and if that is something I should take back and show to the shop or not. I figure ON3P has tough/thick enough bases to withstand stuff like this but any advice is taken!

Note: Skis have never touched snow, this is the third day after they were mounted.

+K to all serious replies and thanks in advance!
Jan 6 2015 9:14PM
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Mr.noodle
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If you hit a lot of rails and stuff the screw might poke through the bottom but I've never had this problem so I don't really know
Jan 6 2015 9:24PM
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ThundaKilla
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Definitely bring them back to the shop
Jan 6 2015 11:02PM
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brandonloos_21
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Take them to the shop and tell them they screwed up your skis
Jan 6 2015 11:07PM
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Mrworm10
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ThundaKillaDefinitely bring them back to the shop


brandonloos_21Take them to the shop and tell them they screwed up your skis


And say what? I don't want to get all pissy because they for sure would feel less inclined to help me out and work out a solution. What do you guys think I'd get out of that? I don't think the shope would be able to get me new skis because they are a pretty low-key place.
Jan 6 2015 11:22PM
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B.Quincy
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Your
Screwed.
Jan 6 2015 11:22PM
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.lencon
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Im not sure if ON3P does this, but a lot of ski brands label the screw size on the ski. Maybe the shop used too big of a size? Pretty bad on the shops side tho, shops keep getting worse I feel like. Hard to find good work in places.
Jan 6 2015 11:31PM
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Mrworm10
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.LincolnIm not sure if ON3P does this, but a lot of ski brands label the screw size on the ski. Maybe the shop used too big of a size? Pretty bad on the shops side tho, shops keep getting worse I feel like. Hard to find good work in places.


Yeah, I mean, they were screws that came with the bindings and they used the same ones for the others ski and that one has no blemishes. Kinda surprising because the ON3P's have a hella thick sidewall.
Jan 6 2015 11:33PM
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.lencon
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Mrworm10Yeah, I mean, they were screws that came with the bindings and they used the same ones for the others ski and that one has no blemishes. Kinda surprising because the ON3P's have a hella thick sidewall.


Yeah my friends jmos are super thick too haha. My handmade skis and my friends handmade skis are all super thick all around. And I know that some skis only take a certain screw size, regardless of binding. Because you can have the same width, but play around with the depth. But still, the sidewalls are super thick. But then again with the bases being as thick as they are, theres less sidewall then you think.
Jan 6 2015 11:40PM
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rozboon
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This usually happens when the screws are too long, weird that it would only happen on one screw though. Certain bindings come with some short screws and some long screws (Marker royals maybe? can't remember) that have to go in specific locations and if they've been mixed up it also means you've probably got a screw somewhere that's barely biting into the ski

Mostly you can get away with taking the screw out, throw some epoxy in the hole, put a shorter screw in. Make sure the thread pitch matches the one you just took out and be super careful that the screw goes into the existing thread instead of cutting a new one. If there's still a "nipple" on your base then a good smack with a wooden mallet usually sorts it out. And by "you" I mean your local shop.
Jan 6 2015 11:53PM
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teamdummy
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Ironically, this can happen when the hole wasn't drilled deep enough. The tip of the screw doesn't just bite into to undrilled part like a drywall screw would. As the screw is turned in, the tip pushes and buldges the bases out. I would check to see if the screw is too long. if it isn't.....this could be your problem.
Jan 7 2015 9:20AM
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fresh_prince
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this really sucks man, you might just be able to unscrew the screw a bit so its not to deep
Jan 7 2015 9:25AM
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Pipe_Munky
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teamdummyIronically, this can happen when the hole wasn't drilled deep enough. The tip of the screw doesn't just bite into to undrilled part like a drywall screw would. As the screw is turned in, the tip pushes and buldges the bases out. I would check to see if the screw is too long. if it isn't.....this could be your problem.


THIS!
Jan 7 2015 9:26AM
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veronicaawinston
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Shops fault. Let us know what they say.
Jan 7 2015 3:01PM
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grifrowl
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Mrworm10And say what? I don't want to get all pissy because they for sure would feel less inclined to help me out and work out a solution. What do you guys think I'd get out of that? I don't think the shope would be able to get me new skis because they are a pretty low-key place.


They don't need to give you new skis. An hour in a hotbox with a plate clamped to the base will smooth out the dimple. If they redrill the hole to the correct depth your ski will be about as good as new. It's always a good idea to let the shop know they screwed up, so they can make corrections and it won't happen to customers in the future.
Jan 7 2015 3:19PM
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Frostbyte
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Thats because they don't know how to properly mount skis, they need to knock out the holes after they drill it> They didn;t do this so thats why they got dimpled, that is their fault and they should be replacing your skis.
Jan 7 2015 3:22PM
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Mar-O
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That happened to my old afterbangs when I got them re mounted, I probably should have taken them back but I didn't notice before after a while so I just let them stay that way. It didn't seem to be a huge problem for me tho and the ski hold up fine, it was only really annoying when I waxed them. But yeah as people have said definitively take them back and let them fix it.
Jan 7 2015 4:05PM
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Justo8484
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like others have said, they either didn't drill deep enough and core material pushed out the base, or they did drill deep enough, but didn't make sure there was no debris in the hole before mounting the binding. learned that one the hard way a while ago, but yeah, they can just pull that screw, put it in a hotbox with a clamp on it for a while, then redrill to make sure there's no more junk in there, then remount. if you're super concerned about it after that, they could helicoil it but that's probably not necessary.
Jan 7 2015 5:24PM
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