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I really liked thme when I had some. They are pretty stiff but I never found them overpowering in the park. One thing I really like is the carbon cuff. i do find you can put more pressure in the back of the cuff then other boots. You may ask why this is useful but landing backseat or buttering it really helps you prevent washing out. They are a pretty high volume fit but if the shape works for you they are a feet all roun boot both I and out of the park.