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Wide park skis?

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chunk.
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Im looking for a wide park ski preferably 90-97 mm that stays stable underfoot. I'm 6'3" and 270 so I don't want something too flexy. Any suggestions?
Dec 26 2014 6:30PM
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life_is_hood
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2 things here:

1: Post this in gear talk. it exists for a reason.

2: while we are on the topic of wide park skis, Nordica soul riders are not as soft as McSlay makes them look and ON3P Kartel 98s are also a solid bet.
Dec 26 2014 6:41PM
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fresh_prince
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Go with line blends or al dente's. Both pretty soft though
Dec 26 2014 7:56PM
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Chubz.
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kartel's
Dec 26 2014 8:21PM
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JAHn
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Also gotta say Kartels
Dec 26 2014 8:24PM
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mulz
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fresh_princeGo with line blends or al dente's. Both pretty soft though


Dude asks for with a stiffer flex pattern, and you post up two of the butteriest skis in that category... WTF.
Dec 26 2014 8:35PM
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alistair.garland
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I'd go with either the Kartels or the Al-Dentes.
Dec 26 2014 8:55PM
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Park.
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Hg's
Dec 26 2014 9:23PM
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grifrowl
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Rayzrblaydz
Dec 26 2014 10:11PM
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milk_man
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Collin_ShawI don't want something too flexy.


fresh_princeGo with line blends or al dente's. Both pretty soft though


Al Dentes are some of the softest skis out there haha
Dec 26 2014 10:22PM
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Charlie*
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Cant go wrong with the armada alpha x



Pretty damn sexy too imo
Dec 26 2014 10:29PM
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chunk.
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The moment tahoes are looking pretty sweet. thanks man +k
Dec 26 2014 11:46PM
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brapclap
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Moment, PB&J's

MOMENT SKIS - PB&J 2014 - 2015 from MOMENT on Vimeo.
Dec 27 2014 12:30AM
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ebonyzebra
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k2 shreditor 92?
Dec 27 2014 12:45AM
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Plankton
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I love my al dantes
Dec 27 2014 12:59AM
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chunk.
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Creed.I love my al dantes


you think they're stable enough to hold 270lbs?
Dec 27 2014 1:18AM
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Twandos
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Faction 2.0's might be up your alley but they are a little bigger underfoot but have a symmetrical cut for the park with a decent flex but stays stiff for the heavier weight.

Idk for sure though because I have never ridden them.

maybe someone here who has could off more insight.
Dec 27 2014 1:33AM
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.lencon
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Batalla park reapers in a 183 would be good. 91 underfoot I think with good amount of rocker. Stiffer than most skis listed. Maybe close to a kartel flex?
Dec 27 2014 12:00PM
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Aenomaly
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TwandosFaction 2.0's might be up your alley but they are a little bigger underfoot but have a symmetrical cut for the park with a decent flex but stays stiff for the heavier weight.

Idk for sure though because I have never ridden them.

maybe someone here who has could off more insight.


I got the 2.0s

Only got to ride them for a week, but they feel extremly stable at high speeds and yet playful in the park or on side hits. They work great on rails too, didn't ride any kickers yet though.
Dec 27 2014 1:04PM
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MartianMan
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Most of the options given here you will find much too soft.
Also, one important factor is size. I would not go anywhere shorter than a 185 length.

Best stiffer wide park skis to consider would be:

(In order of skinniest to widest)

Volkl Bridge in a 187
Dynastar Slicer in a 187
ON3P Kartel 98 in a 186
Icelantic Gypsy SKNY in a 190
Moment PB&J in a 188
Dec 27 2014 1:20PM
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Charlie*
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I'm kinda surprised to hear this. The alpha has definitely been considered a park staple for years now...unless they completely redesigned it, it's an amazing park ski (they don't put those 2.5mm edges on for carving - I see tons of them in the park) I have the Halo 2 which is just a softer version of the alpha and it's the best park ski i've ever owned. It may not be intended for center mount, but its hardly a directional ski either...I'd be interested in hearing what you think when you ride them. I thought long and hard about buying a pair myself.
Dec 27 2014 5:29PM
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fahdshred
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The domain is pretty wide and performs very well in the park. It's really soft tough.
Dec 27 2014 10:41PM
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Charlie*
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Looking forward to hearing it.

The alpha is for sure a do all ski, but if you ride much park your gonna be in for a pleasant surprise. My Halo 2s (last years b dog) have the exact same elf shoe shape in the nose, same 95mm underfoot, same 'mini jj' dimensions as the alpha, just softer flex [Mike Hornbeck rode them last year as his park ski] I ride them 1 back from center and I love them. They charge all over the mountain - I love the versatility of the elf shoe technology, floats the tips in the pow, and makes for a sweet platform to butter from (doesn't affect 'the switch' either)

If OP didn't weigh 270lbs, I would have recommended him the B Dogs (the new, softer Halo 2 predecessor) but being a little on the heavier side and wanting something stable underfoot - the same ski just stiffer (the Alpha) was my recommendation. Been riding em (almost daily) for a year now and I'd say I have a pretty good idea on what to expect from this ski (and like I said, best park ski I've ever ridden.) I stand by my recommendation OP, take it or leave it.

Either way I have a feeling you're (Sequoia) gonna be stoked once you ride them. I certainly wouldn't shy away from the park with them. Not to take anything away from the fact that this ski can rip anything, it really excels at everything...my preferred style of ski.
Dec 28 2014 6:24PM
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Bucket_Hat
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life_is_hood2 things here:

1: Post this in gear talk. it exists for a reason.


Contrary to this accusation may suggest, this is in gear talk...
Jan 1 2015 12:59AM
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ismael
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Charlie*Looking forward to hearing it.

The alpha is for sure a do all ski, but if you ride much park your gonna be in for a pleasant surprise. My Halo 2s (last years b dog) have the exact same elf shoe shape in the nose, same 95mm underfoot, same 'mini jj' dimensions as the alpha, just softer flex [Mike Hornbeck rode them last year as his park ski] I ride them 1 back from center and I love them. They charge all over the mountain - I love the versatility of the elf shoe technology, floats the tips in the pow, and makes for a sweet platform to butter from (doesn't affect 'the switch' either)

If OP didn't weigh 270lbs, I would have recommended him the B Dogs (the new, softer Halo 2 predecessor) but being a little on the heavier side and wanting something stable underfoot - the same ski just stiffer (the Alpha) was my recommendation. Been riding em (almost daily) for a year now and I'd say I have a pretty good idea on what to expect from this ski (and like I said, best park ski I've ever ridden.) I stand by my recommendation OP, take it or leave it.

Either way I have a feeling you're (Sequoia) gonna be stoked once you ride them. I certainly wouldn't shy away from the park with them. Not to take anything away from the fact that this ski can rip anything, it really excels at everything...my preferred style of ski.

A really impresive opinion on those skis, i want to understand that thing of the surface contact and the binding mounting position, the base contact start earlier cause of the early rise on the tip right? So that would mean that the binding should be mounted not in the center of the ski but in the recomended point which is 2.5 cm lower? How about the swing weight? And the feeling on the tricks while spinning? Would i be having less contacto point on the tip if i mount them in the real center? How could that affect the functionality of the ski?

(Sorry for asking to much, its just that im in the fight between the alpha and the chronics)
Jan 1 2015 9:08AM
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icydope
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Salomon Rocker2 100
I saw a video with them and they are not bad in the park.
Jan 1 2015 10:40AM
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ismael
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Excellent, i'll be waiting to read it.
Jan 1 2015 4:16PM
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Lemuel
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I love my HG's, but I don't think they would work for you at 270 pounds.
Jan 1 2015 4:50PM
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Park.
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LemuelI love my HG's, but I don't think they would work for you at 270 pounds.


Stiff version
Jan 1 2015 6:45PM
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amo
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ItsKevinI got the 2.0s

Only got to ride them for a week, but they feel extremly stable at high speeds and yet playful in the park or on side hits. They work great on rails too, didn't ride any kickers yet though.


2.0s could be right up your alley. At 102 they're slightly wider than what you specified, but honestly 5mm is hardly noticeable. They're a very stable ski, even at speed, but the rocker gives them a nice playful feel in the park when you throw your weight around. I'm 5'9" 145 riding 178s, so you've obviously a bigger dude, but on the 184 I think you'd be fine.

What kind of riding do you do anyways?
Jan 2 2015 11:16AM
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chunk.
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amoWhat kind of riding do you do anyways?


I spend about half my time in the park and half on groomers and tree runs. I'm from Indiana so I get stuck in a lot of crappy snow conditions so I want something that can float over crud. I mainly hit mid sized jumps up to 35 ft in the park and I tend to stay away from boxes and rails.
Jan 2 2015 3:20PM
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boppin
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Surface double time......... Stiff
Jan 2 2015 7:09PM
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amo
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Collin_ShawI spend about half my time in the park and half on groomers and tree runs. I'm from Indiana so I get stuck in a lot of crappy snow conditions so I want something that can float over crud. I mainly hit mid sized jumps up to 35 ft in the park and I tend to stay away from boxes and rails.


2.0s
Jan 3 2015 8:42PM
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crawley
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Seems like Batalla Reapers would be perfect. They are 91mm underfoot and pretty stiff, great park ski or every condition ski with the rocker and sidecut. The tail rocker is a bit smaller than the tip rocker and it gives them really nice pop, even if you are a big dude.
Jan 3 2015 9:06PM
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amieastcoastyet
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Blends or Chronics
Jan 4 2015 3:14PM
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yungsteeze
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Nothing but good things to say about the alpha xs I have like 20 days on them already. Mine are mounted 2 and a quarter back from center and they perform well in the park and all mountain. Idk if they'll be stuff enough for you tho I only weigh 180
Jan 4 2015 6:41PM
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yungsteeze
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Stiff^
Jan 4 2015 9:55PM
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