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Proper way to react to noobs in landing, etc...?

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artrud
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Just watched a video of someone running into a little noob in the terrain park...

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https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/744416.0/Kid-gets-rocked-on-landing

To be perfectly honest, I have reacted in similar ways when this has happened to me but I cant help but wonder if there is a better way to handling everything. Sure the consequences are very high when something like this happens, you have every right to be upset, and everyone is lucky to ski away unhurt when this happens. With that, I think if everyone is unhurt there has to be a better way of reacting which shows more character and ultimately adds positivity to the your local terrain park.

Perhaps offer to spin a lap with the kid to show him a cpl basics about park safety or at the very least take him aside to talk (not yell) at him. Ultimately the kid is likely new to skiing, stoked about riding park one day, and he/she was nervous about going in the park in the first place and is now probably scared outta their mind after something like this.

Also, not picking on the guy in the vid just been seeing a lot of similar reactions in these types of vids.

Thoughts on another approach?

**This thread was edited on Dec 23rd 2014 at 12:45:09pm
Dec 22 2014 6:10PM
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S.J.W
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I don't blame the skier for losing his shit, however he did say he apologised. Good on him for saying sorry.
Dec 22 2014 6:12PM
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artrud
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ChubbyBoyI don't blame the skier for losing his shit, however he did say he apologised. Good on him for saying sorry.


That's great and glad he did. I guess I was trying to get at something a bit more general here. Just feel like ppl are so quick to yell, throw punches, etc... and that's not why I go to the mtn
Dec 22 2014 6:18PM
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.jif
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Every time it happens I just try to stay calm and give a short but sweet lecture about what could happen.
Dec 22 2014 6:26PM
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freestyler540
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If im on course and getting ready to send it I yell. Just a move over or heads up is enough. Then I lecture them on park safety.
Dec 22 2014 6:58PM
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Casey
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I kind of feel like he should've seen the kid wandering around on the knuckle and held up. But its obviously the kids responsibilty to stay out of the way. In this situation I think the guy yelled at the kid because nailing someone in that situation is scary as fuck and he was probly super hyped on adrenaline. I did that to a woman whole pulled out in front of me and caused a car accident once. But after everyone calmed down a bit I was like I'm sorry I called you a fucking idiot the situation just really scared me. Seems like thats kind of what happened here.
Dec 22 2014 7:25PM
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trannyfinder.edu
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Pee in their butts
Dec 22 2014 7:54PM
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TheButterHashira
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I have said dirty things to people in the landing before, probably not the most effective way of keeping them from doing it again.
Dec 22 2014 8:11PM
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snowmosexual
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I hope this thread just turns into kids getting wrecked in the landing
Dec 22 2014 9:35PM
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Gr0mo
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i have said some choice words to kids and or their parents about park etiquette. I think you have every right to be monumentally pissed at someone for doing something like making a snow angel in the landing.

To me this is no different then blowing a stop sign or pulling out into an intersection to early in a car. You made a mistake and your actions can have serious consequences. Ignorance is not an excuse.
Dec 23 2014 10:37AM
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skier58284
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CaseyI kind of feel like he should've seen the kid wandering around on the knuckle and held up. But its obviously the kids responsibilty to stay out of the way. In this situation I think the guy yelled at the kid because nailing someone in that situation is scary as fuck and he was probly super hyped on adrenaline. I did that to a woman whole pulled out in front of me and caused a car accident once. But after everyone calmed down a bit I was like I'm sorry I called you a fucking idiot the situation just really scared me. Seems like thats kind of what happened here.


The kids were standing still, it looked like they were there to watch. Any reasonable skier would assume they were there to watch the guy that took the video, people do that a lot. There is no way for the guy that took the video to have assumed that was going to happen.
Dec 23 2014 11:36AM
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tacotom
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i mean this is a big problem at my local hill, little kids like to stand on the knuckles as if they were observation decks. and in doing so they are putting themselves at risk.
people need to use there heads, seriously.
Dec 23 2014 11:53AM
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J.D.
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tacotomi mean this is a big problem at my local hill, little kids like to stand on the knuckles as if they were observation decks. and in doing so they are putting themselves at risk.
people need to use there heads, seriously.

I agree, if you use the heads of the kids standing on the knuckle you end up with legendary shots like this.

https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/301203.0/Cab-7-small-girl-tap--2
Dec 23 2014 2:28PM
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youngdtay
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This year, park ettiquette is at an all-time low at my hill, it's crazy. I've witnessed more snakes, collisions, morons sitting in landings, and people dropping into features with visibly unclear landings in the first 3 days of my mountain's park being open this season, than in the last two seasons combined. Usually, if I see some goddamn dinks sitting in the landings of stuff I'll just ski by them telling them to "please get out of the way of the landings", but that has proven to be a wasted effort this season. I heard being excessively rude, and tranny-ing the offenders' skis/snowboards works though, so maybe I should give those things a try.
Dec 23 2014 6:52PM
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jfagan
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Shouldn't that stuff be in the park rules, posted on a sign somewhere?
Dec 23 2014 7:04PM
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theabortionator
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artrud23That's great and glad he did. I guess I was trying to get at something a bit more general here. Just feel like ppl are so quick to yell, throw punches, etc... and that's not why I go to the mtn


What is going on? NS is on a pseudo positivity kick recently.

Either, we're total dicks and should kill everyone or no matter what happens it's all about love guys.

Between this and the other thread. I could hear what he said. I don't think we have to be assholes but we don't have to jump to the other side and congratulate the kid for getting in the way, being a rolling hazard.

This is why having separate parks for different ability levels is clutch. Then you can point them toward the smaller stuff and explain that you can't just roll around on knuckles.

Honestly I think you're entitled to yell. People can get seriously hurt from shit like this.
Dec 23 2014 8:30PM
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tacotom
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J.D.I agree, if you use the heads of the kids standing on the knuckle you end up with legendary shots like this.

https://www.newschoolers.com/watch/301203.0/Cab-7-small-girl-tap--2


im so glad you understood my super dry humor lol
Dec 23 2014 10:25PM
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GrahamGould
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It's hard to keep it together sometimes, but you have to realize that some people honestly don't understand what is and isn't safe in these situations, and getting mad isn't going to help anything.
Dec 23 2014 11:29PM
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life_is_hood
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You don't have to be a complete ass (if you're having a shit day by all means go ahead) but we can't be super nice and supportive to little johnny jabroni when he does something with potentially very serious consequences. People can easily get seriously injured in this situation, especially when more spinning is involved. The people who stand in dangerous areas like that need to be yelled at a bit so they understand how wrong/dangerous what they did is, otherwise they will just blame the "out of control kids" and go do it again tomorrow.
Dec 24 2014 2:58AM
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Powstagram
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Kill them
Dec 24 2014 8:02AM
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The_Polock
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life_is_hoodYou don't have to be a complete ass (if you're having a shit day by all means go ahead) but we can't be super nice and supportive to little johnny jabroni when he does something with potentially very serious consequences. People can easily get seriously injured in this situation, especially when more spinning is involved. The people who stand in dangerous areas like that need to be yelled at a bit so they understand how wrong/dangerous what they did is, otherwise they will just blame the "out of control kids" and go do it again tomorrow.


Faq.
Dec 24 2014 8:37AM
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toastyteenagers
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Maybe spike their hot cocoa
Dec 24 2014 9:52AM
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Drail
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Someone over on big lines did a write up about idiots in the backcountry that I think can carry over well to the park.

http://biglines.com/featured/call-backcountry-idiots-without-making-feel-like-idiots/

People will always be more responsive and wiling to listen if you aren't a complete dick to them. Politely inform them that they might be doing something stupid and give them alternative options without telling them what to do/not do.


Or you know, just hit the jump, hit the kid, almost killing them, than swear at them all aggressive like. That'll teach em!
Dec 24 2014 11:53AM
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.FRY.
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Give em the sneaky snake. They'll never see it coming.
Dec 24 2014 12:41PM
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.Morton
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The referenced post has been removed.


This may seem like a stupid question but how are you supposed to land if the knuckle is roped off?
Dec 24 2014 2:24PM
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theabortionator
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Eastern.SkierThis may seem like a stupid question but how are you supposed to land if the knuckle is roped off?


You rope the from the edge of the take off to edge of knuckle. Straight across. You can only get to the knuckle by hitting the jump.

I did this when I worked at gore because the problem was really really bad.
Dec 24 2014 2:30PM
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toastyteenagers
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surprise euthanasia
Dec 24 2014 2:45PM
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.Morton
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theabortionatorYou rope the from the edge of the take off to edge of knuckle. Straight across. You can only get to the knuckle by hitting the jump.

I did this when I worked at gore because the problem was really really bad.


Oh I see, makes a lot more sense now.
Dec 24 2014 2:45PM
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joshua
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I fully agree that people shouldn't stand on the landing, but isn't in the fine print on park signage that you are supposed to use spotters to ensure the landing is clear?
Dec 24 2014 5:08PM
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artrud
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DrailSomeone over on big lines did a write up about idiots in the backcountry that I think can carry over well to the park.

http://biglines.com/featured/call-backcountry-idiots-without-making-feel-like-idiots/

People will always be more responsive and wiling to listen if you aren't a complete dick to them. Politely inform them that they might be doing something stupid and give them alternative options without telling them what to do/not do.


Or you know, just hit the jump, hit the kid, almost killing them, than swear at them all aggressive like. That'll teach em!


great (short) read, thanks for posting! this can be applied to so many situations on the mtn
Dec 24 2014 5:33PM
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Ebunk_theskunk
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joshuaI fully agree that people shouldn't stand on the landing, but isn't in the fine print on park signage that you are supposed to use spotters to ensure the landing is clear?


haven't ever seen that in any parks i have been to, plus then whoever is spotting doesn't get to hit the feature which kind of ruins the whole point of hitting the jump in the first place... also not really possible if you're shredding solo
Dec 24 2014 8:00PM
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steeze4days
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Tell their mom, that'll teach em!
Dec 25 2014 6:26AM
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glidecam420
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always start a fight. skiing needs more fights.
Dec 25 2014 8:23AM
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TOAST.
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Flipping out and yelling doesn't help anyone. You have to explain to them what they did wrong and what they should do different. If you are yelling they are just thinking "wow this asshole is yelling a lot"
Dec 25 2014 12:38PM
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