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DeebieSkeebiesDont sit there and say the left is innocent. Theyre just as guilty as fox and the right for creating outrage.
JenniferGarnerThe hundreds of cases a year of cops gunning down unarmed citizens because they were "scared" and the obvious racial tensions that have been building up over the past 50 years is causing outrage. Fox News does a brilliant job of convincing their target audience (middle to upper class white people) there isn't an issue when there clearly is one, or causing outrage and fear over non-issues.
At the end of the day, you're a moron if you take CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. as literal truth. Its all garbage. The U.S. was built upon racism and still functions on that notion. If you don't think racism is still a very serious issue in today's society, then you're guilty of being the most ignorant and horrible type of person.
CirilloAnd also there was clearly enough anger to drive a man to murder two cops for no reason other than being cops.
Lord_Byroni think it would shock most of you living in the sheltered white world that you do how common this anger is.
Lord_Byroni think it would shock most of you living in the sheltered white world that you do how common this anger is.
Maybe try asking what creates anger that illogical and extreme. Or keep trying to attack the symptoms, since that has worked so well throughout history.
CirilloClassic going with the sheltered argument.
Lord_Byronis it wrong? Maybe its classic because its true. How the fuck do you think you have ANY idea what its like to be discriminated against by authorities? If it was happening to all you white people daily, youd be furious. You would all be pissed enough to defend a cop killer.
So unless that is your reality, and it is mine and millions of others, how the fuck do you think you know what youre talking about.
BombogenesisYou are so immeasurably stupid... It's actually mind boggling.
Lord_Byrongoing with the not responding to any of what i said. Classic.
BombogenesisWhy would I respond to anyone who tries to justify the shooting of two innocent police officers day before Christmas because of some perceived bad hand that you've been dealt? You're a bad person and perpetuating some serious stereotypes right now, just stop.
Lord_Byron"You're a bad person and perpetuating some serious stereotypes right now" hahahahahaha. Have you ever had cops follow you to your own house in a wealthy white neighborhood and try to arrest you for robbing it? Have you ever had a family member get stabbed for wearing a wire the cops made him wear? Been the only person charged with possession in a car full of kids? Had a cop pull over friends leaving your house to try to prove you're selling weed? Been forced to the ground, put in handcuffs, and get charged with nothing because you did nothing wrong?
BombogenesisYou're right, I'm wrong. Those are all definitely justifiable reasons to defend a cop killer. My bad.
Lord_ByronBeen the only person charged with possession in a car full of kids? Had a cop pull over friends leaving your house to try to prove you're selling weed? Been forced to the ground, put in handcuffs, and get charged with nothing because you did nothing wrong?
Barefootin_Fiendso let me get this straight....you had drugs on you and got busted, but you think it's because you are black. not because you actually broke the fucking law? then, after being busted with drugs, you're surprised that the cops look in to whether or not you're pushin? HOW DARE THEY!!!
Lord_Byrondrugs in the car, not actually mine, and the cops were in two entirley different states. And everything was dropped/purged/expunged after my white parents sent an expensive lawyer. In both situations, I broke no laws and was found to have broken no laws. Yet I was the only one the cops went after.
So yeah, it seems a bit fucked.
akt416its shitty that things like this happen really. unfortunatly there are always gonna be people with their own beliefs and theres nothing we can do to change that, but the thing is racism wont stop until everyone sees everyone as the same. the fact alone that people are still refered to as "blacks" is racism in itself.
this isnt the way to solve problems, but you can see how things like this could put a cop on his toes when he deals with situations involving blacks
akt416its shitty that things like this happen really. unfortunatly there are always gonna be people with their own beliefs and theres nothing we can do to change that, but the thing is racism wont stop until everyone sees everyone as the same. the fact alone that people are still refered to as "blacks" is racism in itself.
this isnt the way to solve problems, but you can see how things like this could put a cop on his toes when he deals with situations involving blacks
Lord_Byronis it wrong?
Sno.Referring to black people as black people isn't any more racist than referring to white people as white people. There are different races in this world and acknowledging that in itself isn't racist. It's the attitudes and prejudices that people associate with "black" or "white" that is racist. Black people don't want their differences, their culture, their heritage, or their race taken away from them and for everyone to be considered exactly the same. They're just sick of their differences being associated with inferiority or stereotypes. Diversity is a good thing. Stereotypes and discrimination is what's bad. Let's not associate ridding discrimination with taking away people's identities.
ZimmermanStop treating cop killing like its any worse than normal human killing. It's not.
ZimmermanStop treating cop killing like its any worse than normal human killing. It's not.
Lord_ByronAnd maybe instead of spending all the time being pissed at the cop killer, you could try being pissed at the much bigger injustice that created it.
akt416the fact alone that people are still refered to as "blacks" is racism in itself.
zzzskizzzby 2050 white people are going to be a minority in America. As of today there are more white people dying than white babies being born. That won't solve racism, but I have
A feeling it'll help it.
BombogenesisYou are so immeasurably stupid... It's actually mind boggling.
Sno.Wat? Not every murder is the same on the average person emotional justice scale. There's a difference between two cops being massacred and say...a child shooting their molester? Come on, man! Not all murders are equally disturbing.
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ZimmermanThat wasn't my claim. I'm saying that that they were cops doesn't make the crime worse than if they were not and that this doesn't warrant as much attention as it's getting. In NY there is no death penalty for murder unless you kill a cop. It's bullshit.
To those complaining against "hypocrisy" of protesters not protesting the cops deaths: It isn't hypocritical because the number of people murdered by cops is a lot greater than two.
That being said I still agree with most of you that this is awful and doesn't help anyone or anyone's cause.
ZimmermanThat wasn't my claim. I'm saying that that they were cops doesn't make the crime worse than if they were not and that this doesn't warrant as much attention as it's getting. In NY there is no death penalty for murder unless you kill a cop. It's bullshit.
To those complaining against "hypocrisy" of protesters not protesting the cops deaths: It isn't hypocritical because the number of people murdered by cops is a lot greater than two.
That being said I still agree with most of you that this is awful and doesn't help anyone or anyone's cause.
JenniferGarnerWhere did he write that? I love bipartisan jackoffs like you. You say something negative and true about the biggest propaganda network in the world and instead of agreeing, the ones who associate themselves with the "red party" go, "omg but like CNN race baits and like causes outrage!"
No, the networks aren't causing outrage, neither is Al Sharpton- who a lot of people regardless of race absolutely hate. The hundreds of cases a year of cops gunning down unarmed citizens because they were "scared" and the obvious racial tensions that have been building up over the past 50 years is causing outrage. Fox News does a brilliant job of convincing their target audience (middle to upper class white people) there isn't an issue when there clearly is one, or causing outrage and fear over non-issues.
At the end of the day, you're a moron if you take CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. as literal truth. Its all garbage. The U.S. was built upon racism and still functions on that notion. If you don't think racism is still a very serious issue in today's society, then you're guilty of being the most ignorant and horrible type of person.
ZimmermanThat wasn't my claim. I'm saying that that they were cops doesn't make the crime worse than if they were not and that this doesn't warrant as much attention as it's getting.
.MASSHOLE.I would argue that there is a difference between killing a cop and killing an innocent person. A cop is there to protect and serve, and depending on the location, putting their life on the line every day they put on their uniform. They do this not for themselves, but for the betterment of their community.
DeebieSkeebiesi should have elaborated a bit more, but i don't think i was saying the right has a clean slate themselves. i think i was getting at the idea that both sides paint pictures, but its not the case at all right now, so its old news. water under the bridge, fart in the wind, whatever you wanna call it.
what i wanna know is why Byron thinks killing cops is going to solve the problem. its nothing against you or anything, im just curious to know why you think it solves the issue. Obviously our law enforcement agencies are fucked up along with a strong sense of racism that still lives in America, but i don't think fighting fire with fire eradicates our problems completely. That's just going to make cops want to shoot black people even more.
.Hugo.Byron just thinks he knows the ghetto life because he is 1/4 black, even though hes lived in wealthy areas his entire life
zzzskizzzby 2050 white people are going to be a minority in America. As of today there are more white people dying than white babies being born. That won't solve racism, but I have
A feeling it'll help it.
JenniferGarnerYour ignorance in the face of these important social issues is really mind boggling... oh wait, your a white kid that grew up in an upper middle class family. Shocking you're a dumb shit.
Lord_Byron2 down, few thousand more to go!
"I'm gonna give pigs wings", lmao what a boss
Lord_ByronThank god, can't wait
akt416Why is calling black people "black" racist? Is calling white people "white" racist? If anything, African-American is a more racist, offensive term than black because it implies that a black person can never just be an American, they always have to be noted as "African" first. Even blacks whose families have lived in America for hundreds of years aren't black Americans, but "African-Americans," while a white person who has just immigrated in America is called "white," and, implicitly, is a white American, not a "European-American." Also, not all black people come from Africa, so that assumption, which calling any black person in America "African-American" makes, is pretty racist in and of itself. I have black friends who were born in Jamaica and other islands in the Caribbean and moved to the U.S. when they were young. Should they also be called "African-American?"
youre missing what im saying, when people think of blacks and whites and any other race, theres differences that anyone could think of. im not talking physical differences but stereotypes. no race or religion or any other social group should have to listen to other people telling them whats the right way to live, nor have to give up any cultural traditions they have, but the stereotypes are what need to go if we want to actually end racism. i have nothing against any race because i really couldnt care less what the rest of the world thinks of them, but theres always gonna be people with shitty opinions on stuff and we cant change that
.MASSHOLE.A cop is there to protect and serve, and depending on the location, putting their life on the line every day they put on their uniform. They do this not for themselves, but for the betterment of their community.
akt416youre missing what im saying, when people think of blacks and whites and any other race, theres differences that anyone could think of. im not talking physical differences but stereotypes. no race or religion or any other social group should have to listen to other people telling them whats the right way to live, nor have to give up any cultural traditions they have, but the stereotypes are what need to go if we want to actually end racism. i have nothing against any race because i really couldnt care less what the rest of the world thinks of them, but theres always gonna be people with shitty opinions on stuff and we cant change that
JenniferGarnerRight, all cops are doing it for the betterment of their community... yes, none of them are doing it for the full medical coverage or for their ridiculous pension plans that bankrupt small towns, or because its the highest paid job they can get straight out of highschool.
Whenever someone says cops are underpaid, I laugh at them and tell them to look up how an officer's pension plan is worked out. I also laugh when they say they're risking their lives everyday like its Iraq. Most officers go their whole careers without firing a single shot and most officers are making 60-80k a year on pension plans by working special jobs like construction zones "controlling traffic" and overtime for two hard years... since pensions are determined on their two highest paid years. I personally know a police chief in a very small town who retired in his 50s and makes 120k a year on his pension.
Its also funny to see that most incidents where an officer kills an unarmed citizen because he "feared for his life" are in suburban areas with very low crime rates and almost always involves a minority.
I don't get why this site is full of kids who support the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality... then again they're all white, middle class boys who have never encountered a person of color who has had to deal with all the bullshit that comes with having a darker skin color.
JenniferGarnerRight, all cops are doing it for the betterment of their community... yes, none of them are doing it for the full medical coverage or for their ridiculous pension plans that bankrupt small towns, or because its the highest paid job they can get straight out of highschool.
Whenever someone says cops are underpaid, I laugh at them and tell them to look up how an officer's pension plan is worked out. I also laugh when they say they're risking their lives everyday like its Iraq. Most officers go their whole careers without firing a single shot and most officers are making 60-80k a year on pension plans by working special jobs like construction zones "controlling traffic" and overtime for two hard years... since pensions are determined on their two highest paid years. I personally know a police chief in a very small town who retired in his 50s and makes 120k a year on his pension.
Its also funny to see that most incidents where an officer kills an unarmed citizen because he "feared for his life" are in suburban areas with very low crime rates and almost always involves a minority.
I don't get why this site is full of kids who support the "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality... then again they're all white, middle class boys who have never encountered a person of color who has had to deal with all the bullshit that comes with having a darker skin color.
