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CashBrah
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Ive never had this problem happen before because i always got them mounted at a different place, but i made sure that they knew i wanted them true center. A week later I get them back and without checking i take them home. When i got home i noticed that the boot arrow was pointing at 2cm back. I signed a paper at the shop saying that I gave them permission to work on my skis. The skis were never purchased at the shop, but the bindings were. So I'm wondering if they are going to refund the money and buy me new skis or if I am going to have to buy new ones.
Dec 13 2014 11:46AM
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Caucasian_Asian
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Did you write down where you wanted them? On the sheet? And specify which "center" you wanted? Did you draw a line on the skis where you wanted them mounted?

You might get them remounted for free.
Dec 13 2014 12:14PM
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onenerdykid
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For starters, you don't have to buy new skis and the shop does not owe you new skis. You are, however, entitled to some sort of compensation.

Before that happens, we need more details. What skis are they? Is there a mark that says "center"? Were you clear what type of center you wanted (balance center, sidecut center, camber center, length center)? Did you physically mark on the ski where you wanted the boot sole?

If you simply said "center" without marking on the ski what exact version of center you meant, then it might not be entirely their fault. Knowing what ski it is and what markings on are on the top sheet will help us.
Dec 13 2014 12:16PM
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CashBrah
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onenerdykidFor starters, you don't have to buy new skis and the shop does not owe you new skis. You are, however, entitled to some sort of compensation.

Before that happens, we need more details. What skis are they? Is there a mark that says "center"? Were you clear what type of center you wanted (balance center, sidecut center, camber center, length center)? Did you physically mark on the ski where you wanted the boot sole?

If you simply said "center" without marking on the ski what exact version of center you meant, then it might not be entirely their fault. Knowing what ski it is and what markings on are on the top sheet will help us.


2013 volkl ledges, If remounting them is an option, what kind of effect is it going to have on them. I made sure he knew i meant the center length of the ski. I showed him the marking point but didnt physically write it. They are my 2nd pair of ski for this season so if they are able to be remounted that should be fine,
Dec 13 2014 12:52PM
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VD.
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CashBrah2013 volkl ledges, If remounting them is an option, what kind of effect is it going to have on them.


Not a huge amount of difference, most techs will put three sets of holes in your skis without any qualms.
Dec 13 2014 5:17PM
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FreedGucci
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It's ok to remount skis a couple of times, the tech will just plug up the old holes and you'll be good to go
Dec 13 2014 6:15PM
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mikemoose
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i have the exact same ski and my shop did the same, they were mounted an inch or two back from true center. However it doesnt seem to make a huge difference to me
Dec 13 2014 7:14PM
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onenerdykid
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mikemoosei have the exact same ski and my shop did the same, they were mounted an inch or two back from true center. However it doesnt seem to make a huge difference to me


I think you're either exaggerating or just not aware of spatial distances. A shop might be off by a few millimeters or a centimeter, but not in inches. 2 inches (5cm) back from center is a huge amount that you would most certainly feel, especially if the other ski was mounted correctly.
Dec 14 2014 6:03AM
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CashBrah
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Thanks for the help, I ended up going back and the guy refused to mount them dead center because he claims they are asymmetrical sidecut even though every site explain that they are symmetrical. I have a friend that knows what he's doing and is working on them now.
Dec 14 2014 4:52PM
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steeze4days
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Sorry noob over here!

Whats the big deal about having your bindings mounted ever so slightly off centre?
Is there any advantage on having bindings mounted true centre?
Whats the standard for mounting?
are most bindings mounted true centre?
Dec 14 2014 4:55PM
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onenerdykid
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steeze4daysSorry noob over here!

Whats the big deal about having your bindings mounted ever so slightly off centre?
Is there any advantage on having bindings mounted true centre?
Whats the standard for mounting?
are most bindings mounted true centre?


Having your bindings mounted at center is very beneficial for skiing both forwards and backwards (switch). However, some (like myself) argue that you should only mount your bindings at center if your ski was designed to be ridden at center, as is the case with fully symmetrical skis (symmetrical shape and/or flex). Skis that are asymmetrical are better off being mounted not at length center since they were never designed for that. But, many people still do it and like it.
Dec 14 2014 5:05PM
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steeze4days
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onenerdykidHaving your bindings mounted at center is very beneficial for skiing both forwards and backwards (switch). However, some (like myself) argue that you should only mount your bindings at center if your ski was designed to be ridden at center, as is the case with fully symmetrical skis (symmetrical shape and/or flex). Skis that are asymmetrical are better off being mounted not at length center since they were never designed for that. But, many people still do it and like it.


Thanks man, appreciate it bud!
Dec 14 2014 5:09PM
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amieastcoastyet
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CashBrahIve never had this problem happen before because i always got them mounted at a different place, but i made sure that they knew i wanted them true center. A week later I get them back and without checking i take them home. When i got home i noticed that the boot arrow was pointing at 2cm back. I signed a paper at the shop saying that I gave them permission to work on my skis. The skis were never purchased at the shop, but the bindings were. So I'm wondering if they are going to refund the money and buy me new skis or if I am going to have to buy new ones.


Ask for TRUE CENTER
All your problems will be solved like mine hopefully will when i drop my skis off at the shop tomorrow.
Dec 15 2014 2:40PM
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Sparta
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CashBrahIve never had this problem happen before because i always got them mounted at a different place, but i made sure that they knew i wanted them true center.


amieastcoastyetAsk for TRUE CENTER
All your problems will be solved like mine hopefully will when i drop my skis off at the shop tomorrow.


that is literally what the op asked for. as said a thousand times already, don't just mention where you want them mounted, physically put a mark on the topsheet (or masking tape first then mark) where you want the midsole of the boot placed.

plus, what the hell does TRUE center mean? all of the different types of center are true, none of them are false. just be specific with which one you want.
Dec 15 2014 3:08PM
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amieastcoastyet
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plus, what the hell does TRUE center mean? all of the different types of center are true, none of them are false. just be specific with which one you want.[/QUOTE]

Center on the ski
disregard what the manufacture recommends
Dec 16 2014 8:52AM
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