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Women's Skiing-keeping the sport at its roots.

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LadyPink
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I have been using this site for years but never posted anything, mostly just watching videos and ski world updates, but over time i have finally decided to get a account solely to speak my mind about women's skiing.

First of all: women's skiing at-least deserves equal prize money at all events. NO excuses, they work just as hard or harder then most male skiers

My main point of this thread is to point out how women truly keep the sport near it's roots. Skiers are constantly complaining about how much of a "robot" that guy looks like, or "triples" were never meant to happen. Some ask "why can't skiing be like skateboarding, we have progressed skiing way farther then it ever should have"

Anyways my point being women time after time prove this with there original tricks and constant smooth style. The Olympics proved this. Most girls instead of doing doubles elected to keep it smooth with 5, and 7s, making the competition much more style based and not a inhuman robot triple show which the men flaunted. I mean there spinning so much it may as well be aerials. everyone who preached skiing is to far progressed needs to look at how women skiing because they are revolutionizing style while truly keeping our sport at its roots with their bag of tricks. Lastly the men are pushing it to far where injury risk is too high, they are going to ruin the sport for everyone because the olympic committee already wants to get rid of Slopestyle due to injury risk.

3 Conclusions.

1. Women skiing is much more style based then mens
2. Women deserve at-least equal prize money and should be better recognized for their contributions to the sport.
3. Watching a Smooth grabbed 5 or 7 is much more enjoyable then a blurry triple

Looking to hear other peoples opinions. It is something i feel strongly about and would enjoy discussing with others,

Cheers guys,

Lady Pink,
Dec 9 2014 10:19AM
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Download-My-Apps
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I agree that women deserve equal opportunity for prize money. But I don't think its fair to generalize that they work harder then men.

For sport gender equality there needs to be an even playing field, I think maybe that might be a better alternative to your argument rather than shitting on male skiing.
Dec 9 2014 12:12PM
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Laurent.
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LadyPinkFirst of all: women's skiing at-least deserves equal prize money at all events. NO excuses, they work just as hard or harder then most male skiers


Yes there is. What sports people are paid is relative to the amount of money they generate. Sport is not a charity, it's precisely the same reason why female catwalk models earn much higher than their male counterparts.
Dec 9 2014 12:28PM
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Blurst
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Tell me Joss' triple at the bottom didnt have ridiculous steeeee

https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/742369/Magnificent-Ski-Slopestyle-Technique-As-Joss-Christensen-Wins-Gold---Sochi-2014-Winter-Olympics
Dec 9 2014 12:30PM
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roach1324
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girls didn't do doubles in the olympics because almost none of them can do them, not because they were trying to protect the roots of our sport
Dec 9 2014 12:36PM
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kshaughn
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The problem with your argument that competition payouts should be equal is the inequality in the fields. I'd first like to say that yes, in a perfect world women will get the same paycheck as men, but this isn't a perfect world.

Let's look at the X-Games, for example. There are hundreds of male skiers training throughout the year and hoping to get into those 26 or so qualifying spots, and each of them have a realistic chance of winning. They have a televised qualifying round and then a televised finals.

For the women, there was only a finals which I don't believe was televised (only on ESPN3) and there were 8 women in it. And, realistically, the women at the top of skiing are far enough ahead of everyone that you pretty much know who is going to win before it happens.

ESPN and the X-Games are a business and if they don't generate any revenue, the athletes aren't going to get paid, and TV contracts and ratings mean everything. Commercial time for the big prime time events like Men's SKI/SNB Pipe is going to cost a whole lot more than commercial time for smaller events in the middle of the afternoon because ratings are highest during prime time and for popular events. The NBA just signed something like a $4B TV contract for the next few years and the players get paid millions because of how much the league is making. The WNBA doesn't generate nearly as much money, and the salary for the women reflect that. Right or wrong, skiing is in the entertainment business and it is the job for all of these athletes. Just like anyone else in the entertainment business, your salary and prize money is based on the amount of revenue you are generating for the host.
Dec 9 2014 12:37PM
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iH8pow
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If women work harder than men, then why are they not throwing double and triple corks, future spins, just getting all-out ridiculous? I agree with the part saying skiing has become aerials, but I don't see how you can say women work harder than men yet the progression hasn't shown that.

How many women have broken their ankles over chads gap, let alone hit it? Women are just as capable of going fast as men are so there is no reason they can't be shooting the gap, but you don't see them out doing that.

It's all about money in the end anyways.
Dec 9 2014 12:40PM
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TheButterHashira
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If there are 50 dudes and 50 girls at a contest then fuck yeah make the payouts equal, but when only two girls show up you can't expect equal prizes.

ESPN can afford to pay the girls equally so they probably should.
Dec 9 2014 12:50PM
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iH8pow
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Ok I take back the part about Chads gap. Newschoolers suggested a story similar to this thread. I read it. The author pointed out that women can't go as fast as men because of their weight differential. At first I thought "aw, good point--now I feel like an asshole" but then I started to think about all the 12-13 year old kids that absolutely kill it and they are tiny.
Women should be paid the same as men--there shouldn't be a mens and a womens competition. It should all be co-ed. Problem solved....
Dec 9 2014 1:00PM
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GANGBANG420
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Yeah the girls totally did 5s and 7s because they think dubs are stupid, and not because they can't do dubs... Btw style isn't waving your arms around uncontrollably in the air
Dec 9 2014 3:01PM
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This is just my opinion but I really want women's big air
Dec 9 2014 4:59PM
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chronic_illness
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Mr.SaltyThis is just my opinion but I really want women's big air


This would be awesome. Someone make it happen.
Dec 9 2014 5:03PM
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sbarlett
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LadyPinkWatching a Smooth grabbed 5 or 7 is much more enjoyable then a blurry triple


You may enjoy this more, however comps are pretty much all about technicality and hardness of tricks now. Whether or not you think that a "stylish" 5 is better than a triple, that's not how these events are scored.
Also, pretty sure that any women's slopestyle competitor would throw a dub over a 5 or 7 any day if they could.
Dec 9 2014 5:55PM
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firecrotch
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LadyPinkthey are revolutionizing style


ok
Dec 9 2014 6:05PM
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El_Barto.
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By roots do mean like Mosely and Hall winning the XGames way back when with tricks that are garbage by todays standards?

Id say yes, women are very true to the garbage trick standards of our founding fathers.
Dec 9 2014 6:08PM
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El_Barto.
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also lol at "at least equal prize money". You gotta be trolling. I try just as hard as Warren Buffet...where my 80 billion dollars
Dec 9 2014 6:11PM
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Girays_Brother
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HAHAHAH this thread is too funny
Dec 9 2014 6:31PM
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[tk]
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Highlighted some problems I have with your argument.

"women's skiing at-least deserves equal prize money at all events"

I'm all for equal prize money, but typically there are less women than men at these competitions. So they actually have a higher chance of winning the prize money. There are less women paying entry fees at these things. Just something to keep in mind.

"NO excuses, they work just as hard or harder then most male skiers"

Obviously some sexism coming off here.

"My main point of this thread is to point out how women truly keep the sport near it's roots."

You can't claim women are keeping skiing true to its roots when there aren't any women even doing the same stuff as men. We have seen that they literally can not do some of the same tricks, so is it really a choice by them? And should we give them props for that?

"women time after time prove this with there original tricks and constant smooth style."

Original tricks as in...not original at all? "Basic" is the word you were looking for.

"everyone who preached skiing is to far progressed needs to look at how women skiing because they are revolutionizing style while truly keeping our sport at its roots with their bag of tricks."

I get the style thing, yes, it's cool they can keep it more simple and focus on style. Your argument would be exceptionally stronger if the word "women" was replaced by "B-Dog and E-Dollo." They are truly pushing the sport while keeping to its roots. Watch Keynote Skier if you haven't seen it yet. Also maybe this is just me, but I would much rather watch Henrik do a nose butter trip than someone go off the same size jump and do a 5.

"the men are pushing it to far where injury risk is too high, they are going to ruin the sport for everyone because the olympic committee already wants to get rid of Slopestyle due to injury risk."

Men are going to ruin the sport for everyone because of injury risk? I lol'd. Last winter was the first year we even had slopestyle in the olympics if you don't remember. I don't really even consider it part of "the sport."

To clarify, a lot of girls are better skiers than me and I think they are killing it. I agree with your argument as a whole but I think you just got caught up in some things.
Dec 9 2014 6:48PM
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-emile-
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the only ''roots'' women skiing is keeping is the shitty tricks men used to do 10 years ago
Dec 9 2014 6:49PM
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methscratchface
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what does this have to do with sandwich making?
Dec 9 2014 6:50PM
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losh
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LadyPinkMy main point of this thread is to point out how women truly keep the sport near it's roots.


roots of a sport founded mostly by men.
Dec 9 2014 6:52PM
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amo
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Agree that in an ideal world men and women should receive equal payouts. Can't remember the last time I saw an original trick from a girl. And I can think of like one or two girls who ski that have smooth style. Most 5s and 7s the girls threw in the Olympics were far from smooth, and the fact that they were throwing 5s and 7s doesn't make the competition more style based, they're judged on difficulty and technicality of tricks either way. Don't wanna bash, but it seems like a limit of ability rather than a choice of style.
Dec 9 2014 6:53PM
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NSwidow
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I have a few thoughts on this. I don't actually think it is fair that they get the same prize money. This is why- Let's say there's a rail jam, and its (arbitrarily) $30 to enter. Lets say 30 guys enter and 10 women enter. The money put into the kitty from entry money from the men is $900. For women, it's $300. Lets say first prize for the guys is $500, second is $300 and third is $100, that's the $900 right there. (Again this is arbitrary as obviously there are the sponsors etc who donate swag and some prize money) then for the women it should be something like $150 for first, $100 for second and $50 for third. That equates to the same amount as the men. That is fair. Why should the prize money be equal to a not equal competition? You say the girls work harder, yet the boys have to work SO much harder to podium. It's relative.

And I don't think the girls are spinning 5's and 7's to "keep us at our roots". I don't think the girls are standing at the top saying to themselves "Hmm, nah, I won't throw a 10 off the last, I'll just dial it back to a 7". I do see where you're coming from, but it feels a little like excuses being made for lack of progression. This is not me at all hating on women's skiing. I think there are some amazing girl skiers who deserve more recognition then they have but beacause they're a woman they're overlooked, but I just don't really agree with the OP.

When we have just as many girls in the comps as guys, then DEFINITELY we deserve the same prize money. And when the girls CAN throw bigger tricks but simply choose not to, I'll agree its about style.
Dec 9 2014 7:02PM
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El_Barto.
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Anyone saying women deserve equal money is a retard. The sport is dominated by men and mens money. Once women pump as much money into skiing as men do then they will deserve to earn as much.

Seriously, they dont contribute 50% yet you think they should recieve 50%. Idiots, idiots everywhere
Dec 9 2014 7:03PM
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OGhallvard
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haha this is a great thread. we need more of this.
Dec 9 2014 7:11PM
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kshaughn
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NSwidowI have a few thoughts on this. I don't actually think it is fair that they get the same prize money. This is why- Let's say there's a rail jam, and its (arbitrarily) $30 to enter. Lets say 30 guys enter and 10 women enter. The money put into the kitty from entry money from the men is $900. For women, it's $300. Lets say first prize for the guys is $500, second is $300 and third is $100, that's the $900 right there. (Again this is arbitrary as obviously there are the sponsors etc who donate swag and some prize money) then for the women it should be something like $150 for first, $100 for second and $50 for third. That equates to the same amount as the men. That is fair. Why should the prize money be equal to a not equal competition? You say the girls work harder, yet the boys have to work SO much harder to podium. It's relative.

And I don't think the girls are spinning 5's and 7's to "keep us at our roots". I don't think the girls are standing at the top saying to themselves "Hmm, nah, I won't throw a 10 off the last, I'll just dial it back to a 7". I do see where you're coming from, but it feels a little like excuses being made for lack of progression. This is not me at all hating on women's skiing. I think there are some amazing girl skiers who deserve more recognition then they have but beacause they're a woman they're overlooked, but I just don't really agree with the OP.

When we have just as many girls in the comps as guys, then DEFINITELY we deserve the same prize money. And when the girls CAN throw bigger tricks but simply choose not to, I'll agree its about style.


I like you. You're logical.
Dec 9 2014 7:21PM
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joriza.ski
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brownskinterrorHAHAHAH this thread is too funny


sooooo funny. no one gets it
Dec 9 2014 7:22PM
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[tk]
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joriza.skisooooo funny. no one gets it


We all get we're just not sure if trolling or not..
Dec 9 2014 7:34PM
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rtl32
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joriza.skisooooo funny. no one gets it


Actually everyone gets it.

"I want the same rewards, pay, and recognition as men but we don't have to do the same things for it"

I am with NSwidow on this. One woman throw the same tricks and are doing the same things as mean I am down for equal everything, but at my age and gender if I can do the same tricks a female Olympian is doing, then they shouldn't..
Dec 9 2014 7:50PM
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MAWman
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LadyPinkI have been using this site for years but never posted anything, mostly just watching videos and ski world updates, but over time i have finally decided to get a account solely to speak my mind about women's skiing.

First of all: women's skiing at-least deserves equal prize money at all events. NO excuses, they work just as hard or harder then most male skiers

My main point of this thread is to point out how women truly keep the sport near it's roots. Skiers are constantly complaining about how much of a "robot" that guy looks like, or "triples" were never meant to happen. Some ask "why can't skiing be like skateboarding, we have progressed skiing way farther then it ever should have"

Anyways my point being women time after time prove this with there original tricks and constant smooth style. The Olympics proved this. Most girls instead of doing doubles elected to keep it smooth with 5, and 7s, making the competition much more style based and not a inhuman robot triple show which the men flaunted. I mean there spinning so much it may as well be aerials. everyone who preached skiing is to far progressed needs to look at how women skiing because they are revolutionizing style while truly keeping our sport at its roots with their bag of tricks. Lastly the men are pushing it to far where injury risk is too high, they are going to ruin the sport for everyone because the olympic committee already wants to get rid of Slopestyle due to injury risk.

3 Conclusions.

1. Women skiing is much more style based then mens
2. Women deserve at-least equal prize money and should be better recognized for their contributions to the sport.
3. Watching a Smooth grabbed 5 or 7 is much more enjoyable then a blurry triple

Looking to hear other peoples opinions. It is something i feel strongly about and would enjoy discussing with others,

Cheers guys,

Lady Pink,


All I read was "Im a cranky feminist and I think men should be suppressed for there accomplishments and women should be praised for there minor ones".

Theres inequality for a reason on this subject.

If a women wants to break out as a top paid snow-sports athlete all she has to do is the same as a male counterpart.
BE BETTER THEN EVERYONE.

There isn't a singal pro skier that shouldn't be pro, they all kill it, and all earn the measly money they make.

To say a group of people that perform at a lower level should make the same is a joke.
Does your boss make what you make? NO. Cause the mofucker has skills you don't!!!!

And to say the fact that women are trying to be stylish with tricks and that's whats holding back salary potential is beyond ridiculous.
Whens the last time Hornbeck threw a triple? Ill wait.... Oh never.... And he still gets the best sponsorships. With just style....hmmm

Maybe women should just be better at skiing if they want more recognition!
Dec 9 2014 7:52PM
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GPO
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LadyPinkI have been using this site for years but never posted anything, mostly just watching videos and ski world updates, but over time i have finally decided to get a account solely to speak my mind about women's skiing.

First of all: women's skiing at-least deserves equal prize money at all events. NO excuses, they work just as hard or harder then most male skiers

My main point of this thread is to point out how women truly keep the sport near it's roots. Skiers are constantly complaining about how much of a "robot" that guy looks like, or "triples" were never meant to happen. Some ask "why can't skiing be like skateboarding, we have progressed skiing way farther then it ever should have"

Anyways my point being women time after time prove this with there original tricks and constant smooth style. The Olympics proved this. Most girls instead of doing doubles elected to keep it smooth with 5, and 7s, making the competition much more style based and not a inhuman robot triple show which the men flaunted. I mean there spinning so much it may as well be aerials. everyone who preached skiing is to far progressed needs to look at how women skiing because they are revolutionizing style while truly keeping our sport at its roots with their bag of tricks. Lastly the men are pushing it to far where injury risk is too high, they are going to ruin the sport for everyone because the olympic committee already wants to get rid of Slopestyle due to injury risk.

3 Conclusions.

1. Women skiing is much more style based then mens
2. Women deserve at-least equal prize money and should be better recognized for their contributions to the sport.
3. Watching a Smooth grabbed 5 or 7 is much more enjoyable then a blurry triple

Looking to hear other peoples opinions. It is something i feel strongly about and would enjoy discussing with others,

Cheers guys,

Lady Pink,


I think you better post this in the lady gabber where the real action takes place
Dec 9 2014 8:39PM
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Pmoore
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Start random collection of unorganized thoughts:

Unfortunately that is just not how the world works.

Womens skiing has gotten marginally better over the last few years with some of the new women coming in and pushing that side of things.

I hate that people jump down your throat with calls of feminist and such, makes them sound unintelligent.

Pretty faces was a good move for womens skiing, they made a fun movie that was, to be honest, better than I expected. PF however did fall short of even a lot of amateur movies this year from a purely skiing standpoint. That should not be the focus though, I really hope they keep making womens only movies because there is no chance in the recent future (or maybe ever) for women to be on the same level as men in ski movies, that is why they should keep the two parts of the sport separated so that people can be judged against their piers.

Disclaimer: I said they should separate women in skiing, this does not portray my views on women in society.

END Random collection of unorganized thoughts.

P.S. If this angered you as a women please take a deep breath and realize that you get angry too quickly because this was just a realistic view on the state of women in skiing here in 2014
Dec 9 2014 8:55PM
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Mingg
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Women are/should be payed proportionally. Like stated above, if 10 women are in a comp compared to 30 men, then there is less competition and therefore less money. Theres not much money in skiing as it is.

There also is always the option to ride with guys, at least at local comps. I did that last season and it was pretty rad. If you wanna ski for the money, then I guess thats the way to go.

I don't think it's based on style. I think women just are not at the level of men and thats why those tricks were thrown. Please don't take this the wrong way but women just are not at the same level. Take the best 5 girls and the best 5 guys and the guys will out ski the girls(at least in park- i really do not know a whole lot about the bc/ big mountain side of things). We just have not progressed as much. I'm not trying to hate on women's skiing. I think a lot of these girls kill it and they're fucking awesome for it. But the truth is guys have progressed way more than girls. But that also does not mean girls can't/ won't progress in the upcoming years.
Dec 9 2014 10:22PM
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ZeMagnificentKev
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1. No, its not. you mentioned skateboarding, just, take a look at womans skateboarding.
2. No, no, send me to the Olympics then, I got mute 5's down to a science
3. Not better than a smooth double grabbed double, bitch
im sorry ladies, but as soon as I see a lady that obviously say's fuck it huck it as much as guy does,and I really don't see why I haven't seen that, step yo game up, then ill respect your shit.
Dec 9 2014 10:28PM
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Chubz.
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LadyPink1. Women skiing is much more style based then mens
2. Women deserve at-least equal prize money and should be better recognized for their contributions to the sport.
3. Watching a Smooth grabbed 5 or 7 is much more enjoyable then a blurry triple


ha...ha...haahaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


waaaattttt..



If i was a girl skier i would be embarrassed from this thread. Girls didn't throw those tricks because nobody could do those tricks. It's not a style thing and if you think it is you need to do some more research in your own sport.


I'm all for girls getting into skiing and throwing sicks tricks and progressing the sport, brooke potter absolutely threw it down at r2r and i couldn't be more stoked for her..that girl kills it. She needs way more recognition in the industry.
Dec 9 2014 10:36PM
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Trowbruhdge
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Reality Check: The guys triples looked cleaner then the girls 5's or 7's in the Olympics..
Dec 9 2014 10:51PM
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casual
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A bad Lindsayjibber imitation? Yawn.
Dec 9 2014 10:53PM
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robbinJAHood
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I agree that it sucks when I throw down as hard as I can and place but barely get something to be considered a prize. but I also understand the fact that there are never enough females in the comp so it makes it tough. oh well, ya win some and ya lose some. if only winning $150 from a ski competition is the worst part of your day, id say you had a pretty good day.
Dec 9 2014 11:02PM
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Mingg
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Girls are not at the same level as guys. Its a fact. But is it really that big of a deal?

I really do want the girls side of the sport to progress and I know it will with time. But is it such a big of a deal right now that we have to get all defensive about it and demand money or spots in movies just to prove that girls have potential?

Key word: Potential.
I do not believe girls have reached their potential yet and until then, theres really no point in arguing for more respect.

Let the girls side of things progress so that we have a lot(more) to show on behalf of us. THEN, you can argue that we should have more opportunity for money/ movies.
Dec 9 2014 11:04PM
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LynxNation
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NSwidowI have a few thoughts on this. I don't actually think it is fair that they get the same prize money. This is why- Let's say there's a rail jam, and its (arbitrarily) $30 to enter. Lets say 30 guys enter and 10 women enter. The money put into the kitty from entry money from the men is $900. For women, it's $300. Lets say first prize for the guys is $500, second is $300 and third is $100, that's the $900 right there. (Again this is arbitrary as obviously there are the sponsors etc who donate swag and some prize money) then for the women it should be something like $150 for first, $100 for second and $50 for third. That equates to the same amount as the men. That is fair. Why should the prize money be equal to a not equal competition? You say the girls work harder, yet the boys have to work SO much harder to podium. It's relative.

And I don't think the girls are spinning 5's and 7's to "keep us at our roots". I don't think the girls are standing at the top saying to themselves "Hmm, nah, I won't throw a 10 off the last, I'll just dial it back to a 7". I do see where you're coming from, but it feels a little like excuses being made for lack of progression. This is not me at all hating on women's skiing. I think there are some amazing girl skiers who deserve more recognition then they have but beacause they're a woman they're overlooked, but I just don't really agree with the OP.

When we have just as many girls in the comps as guys, then DEFINITELY we deserve the same prize money. And when the girls CAN throw bigger tricks but simply choose not to, I'll agree its about style.


I totally agree with this. I hate to bash on fellow female skiers and I have been stoked on some of the footage coming out this year from the ladies out there, but we are no where near the skill levels of men in skiing. I think we're keeping the "sport at its roots" because we are far below where we can/ will take women's skiing.

There are some ladies out there holding it down for us, and have been for years, Burke (RIP) and Backstrom to name a few, and have shown that we can throw down in big mountain and pipe and that we shouldn't be ignored but that doesn't mean we have to ignore the obvious. We are still awkward with a lot of things. We're years behind what some of the guys can throw down on rails, we aren't at the point where laid out tail presses are our forte but that doesn't mean we won't.


It's just a matter of time but until we deserve the same recognition and prizes that the guys have worked for, then we shouldn't get it.
Dec 9 2014 11:44PM
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Breaking_Rad
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LadyPinkI have been using this site for years but never posted anything, mostly just watching videos and ski world updates, but over time i have finally decided to get a account solely to speak my mind about women's skiing.

First of all: women's skiing at-least deserves equal prize money at all events. NO excuses, they work just as hard or harder then most male skiers

My main point of this thread is to point out how women truly keep the sport near it's roots. Skiers are constantly complaining about how much of a "robot" that guy looks like, or "triples" were never meant to happen. Some ask "why can't skiing be like skateboarding, we have progressed skiing way farther then it ever should have"

Anyways my point being women time after time prove this with there original tricks and constant smooth style. The Olympics proved this. Most girls instead of doing doubles elected to keep it smooth with 5, and 7s, making the competition much more style based and not a inhuman robot triple show which the men flaunted. I mean there spinning so much it may as well be aerials. everyone who preached skiing is to far progressed needs to look at how women skiing because they are revolutionizing style while truly keeping our sport at its roots with their bag of tricks. Lastly the men are pushing it to far where injury risk is too high, they are going to ruin the sport for everyone because the olympic committee already wants to get rid of Slopestyle due to injury risk.

3 Conclusions.

1. Women skiing is much more style based then mens
2. Women deserve at-least equal prize money and should be better recognized for their contributions to the sport.
3. Watching a Smooth grabbed 5 or 7 is much more enjoyable then a blurry triple

Looking to hear other peoples opinions. It is something i feel strongly about and would enjoy discussing with others,

Cheers guys,

Lady Pink,


Here is all that needs to be said about this:

If a girl pops on the scene that can throw the same tricks at Henrik, Goepper, Wallisch with the same style...game over, this girl is a millionaire times plenty. Everybody would have that for lunch and order seconds and thirds. They'd have sponsors and $$$ out the ass. If that girl is a "marketer's dream" add a few zeros.

Everything else is B.S. They, like every 20th-75th ranked dude on the world tour, needs to bust ass and innovate to get what they get. Everything else should be considered charity, really. Be good, by stylish and innovate.

That's really it.

P.S. Don't know who said it, but yeah rolling up the windows isn't 'keeping it real.'
Dec 10 2014 1:13AM
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rtl32
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Breaking_RadIf a girl pops on the scene that can throw the same tricks at Henrik, Goepper, Wallisch with the same style...game over, this girl is a millionaire times plenty. Everybody would have that for lunch and order seconds and thirds. They'd have sponsors and $$$ out the ass. If that girl is a "marketer's dream" add a few zeros.


I actually think that if a girl like that did come into the scene, she would probably get paid MORE than what guys would be. Not in comp prizes or sponsors but she can also do more stuff because she is a woman. Look at Mancuso or Lindsey Vonn. Womans and mens racing are pretty head to head, but you don't see Miller or Aksel modeling (exception: Hirschel but it's not through skiing) in ski boots and a bathing suit. Vonn and Mancuso have, and there will probably do it again or some other woman racer will take their place.

I think that one day womans freestyle skiing will catch up to mens, just like womans racing has, but it is going to take some time.
Dec 10 2014 1:28AM
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DIX~
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NS is still this easy to troll? I thought you were better than this guys
Dec 12 2014 12:00AM
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NinetyFour
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DIX~NS is still this easy to troll? I thought you were better than this guys


We haven't seen a troll this elaborate in a long God damn time... In a way, it's, somewhat refreshing?
Dec 12 2014 12:19AM
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mski
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woo! I'm in!
Dec 12 2014 12:21AM
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scratchskier321
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Janina kuzma is narly.... Competes on FWT and the pipe circuit... Already won GP copper this yr and qual'd 4th for dew finals... Check out this nomination for line of the yr... http://vimeo.com/111720367
Dec 12 2014 1:10AM
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SFBv420.0
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isn't there a special forum for these special threads?
Dec 12 2014 8:17AM
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270on420out
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Gather round everyone!! We're gonna watch some amazing style from the great women keeping this sport at its roots.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6RqabI_Wbc

Watch this video of Devin Logan. Her first trick was a beautiful 540. Stylish and keeping this sport at its roots!!!!

Now let's watch one of the men.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3vvRmfKsOxw

The inferior male continues to oppress this sport with his triple cork!! :(



-Berta Lovejoy. Feminist, Promoter of Equality,
Dec 12 2014 8:34AM
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CrotchKiller
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is this a troll?

funny stuff either way
Dec 12 2014 9:46AM
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connecticunt
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I understand this is a troll but good god that was so cringeworthy to read. Just like reading extreme feminism articles where someone is bitching about how men are useless and we should wipe then out already. Like nah. That's the kind of thinking that prevents us from progressing as a movement.

Yes it sucks that I know I'll never be able to throw down as hard as the guys I ride with. But I also know that it's an unfortunate fact that I will never be able to spin big. I weigh 120 maybe with all my gear on, it's hard for me to get a enough momentum to spin more than a 3. That being said, I'm not going to run my mouth about how my 3 is better than his 7 because I worked harder for it. Skiing isn't a sport where everyone is meant to get a participation prize. And I don't need someone to kiss my ass and hold my hand to feel good about my riding.

Instead of bitching about how we should be looked at as equals, we need to get out there and put in the effort to make it happen.
Dec 12 2014 10:18AM
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connecticuntYes it sucks that I know I'll never be able to throw down as hard as the guys I ride with. But I also know that it's an unfortunate fact that I will never be able to spin big. I weigh 120 maybe with all my gear on, it's hard for me to get a enough momentum to spin more than a 3. That being said, I'm not going to run my mouth about how my 3 is better than his 7 because I worked harder for it. Skiing isn't a sport where everyone is meant to get a participation prize. And I don't need someone to kiss my ass and hold my hand to feel good about my riding.

Instead of bitching about how we should be looked at as equals, we need to get out there and put in the effort to make it happen.


Valid point about jumps. I've noticed I usually will come up short on bigger jumps even if I straight line into them. It's probably a weight/momentum thing that many guys don't need to worry about.

Also, I've always had this thought in the back of my mind. Girls are generally smaller, shorter. With a lower center of gravity, shouldn't rails be easier for us? I feel like we could really progress more on rails given that advantage. I'm not at the level to go out and make that happen, but I think if girls are gonna do something big in skiing it'll be with rails.
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