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How to tell if the FP adjustment of your FKS is right

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shin-bang
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so basically i needed a remount for my boots to fit my fks. so i dont think my shop set my forward pressure right. it seems a little too lose as when the boot is clipped in, it doesnt touch the two bumpers in the toe piece of the binding. i know how to adjust the fks and that the white indicator tab means really nothing. do i need to adjust it so that my boot toe actually touches the two bumpers? or is it fine how it is. only reply to this thread if you know what youre talking about and have worked with fks before.
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Dec 7 2014 10:25PM
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brov1
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so i work in a ski shop a do calibrations for hours and hour a week so i do know what i am talking about and i dont know were you heard that the forward pressure indicator tab doesn't matter but it does matter, a lot. from experience the very end of the indicator tab should line up perfectly with the lines on either side.
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the tab and markers should be perfectly aligned when the boot is in the binding if it is the forward pressure is perfect. this could be a toe height problem but you skis are likely fine the way they are, and do not try to adjust you binding in any way unless you know exactly what you are doing. for your own safety.
Dec 8 2014 1:22AM
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Muggydude
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It's a known fact fks forward prrssure indicator will not lign up properly on many boots and mounts even when forard pressure is set correctly...
Dec 8 2014 9:29AM
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shin-bang
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MuggydudeIt's a known fact fks forward prrssure indicator will not lign up properly on many boots and mounts even when forard pressure is set correctly...


im glad to know im not the only one that knows this. the shop actually mounted the right heel of the binding about 1/4 cm forward than the other. so the fp will be different on each one. can anyone answer my question on if the boot needs to touch the two bumpers in the toe piece of the binding
Dec 8 2014 5:52PM
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shin-bang
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could someboddy plzzzzzzzzz help me, im going skiing on saturday so i need some sort of help by then. and theres no use taking them back to the shop cus theyre retarded and will just mess with my dins rather than adjusting the fp
Dec 8 2014 11:19PM
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shin-bang
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Tom pietrow? any one? i need help. ^ an answer will receive major k++++++
Dec 9 2014 8:06PM
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rozboon
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FKS140 or 180? I'm not super familiar with doing it on 140's.

When it's right, you should be able to clip a boot in and pull forwards on the cuff and the heel of the boot will juuuust start to rise - you can see this best by watching the brakes because they will start to go down a tiny bit when the pressure comes off the brake assembly - though this should happen without the dildo pivoting at all.
For me this usually happens slightly on the "tight" side of the indicator tab but again it's different for everyone.

If you have 180's, you have to be careful that you haven't tightened them too much because all that happens is the toe piece will start to roll forward when you clip a boot in.

As for the toe, it varies a lot depending on the boot and how worn the toe lugs are, but you shouldn't be able to move the toe of the boot side-to-side at all without the binding itself moving.
Dec 9 2014 9:23PM
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rozboon
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Standard disclaimer, adjusting your bindings according to what someone on the internet says will probably cause your tibia to snap like a candy-cane and will ruin your Christmas. Do so at your own risk.
Dec 9 2014 9:25PM
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shin-bang
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rozboonStandard disclaimer, adjusting your bindings according to what someone on the internet says will probably cause your tibia to snap like a candy-cane and will ruin your Christmas. Do so at your own risk.


rozboon gets 10/10 k+ .when they first adjusted to my first pair of boots, this is exactly how it was. ill just mess with until i get it to the description you just gave me. also, does the toe of my boot need to touch the bumpers in the toe piece? btw im using the 140
Dec 9 2014 11:09PM
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HuckNorris44
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You want the toe contacting the small wings on the toe piece. Not so much the toe starts to spread apart but enough that the toe is fully seated in the toe piece. Put the toe in and push the boot forward with your hand, then push the heel down into the binding. Then set the forward pressure
Dec 10 2014 12:57PM
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Justo8484
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forward pressure aside, sounds like your shop screwed up. are the bindings on really wide skis, and they had to freehand mount them? i've freehanded plenty of FKS/pivot bindings and never had the the forward pressure on the arms of the heels be more than a half turn off from one binding to the next, so if you're saying there's a noticeable difference, visibly, in where the heels are mounted from one ski to the other, you very well might have a tough time getting forward pressure to be spot-on on both skis. the toe of your boot should be in contact with the toe piece in four spots, two of those spots being on the sides. also, if you know how to adjust FKS, you probably wouldn't be asking this question :)
Dec 10 2014 3:44PM
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shin-bang
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Justo8484forward pressure aside, sounds like your shop screwed up. are the bindings on really wide skis, and they had to freehand mount them? i've freehanded plenty of FKS/pivot bindings and never had the the forward pressure on the arms of the heels be more than a half turn off from one binding to the next, so if you're saying there's a noticeable difference, visibly, in where the heels are mounted from one ski to the other, you very well might have a tough time getting forward pressure to be spot-on on both skis. the toe of your boot should be in contact with the toe piece in four spots, two of those spots being on the sides. also, if you know how to adjust FKS, you probably wouldn't be asking this question :)


well at least you somewhat answered my question, and i do know how to ADJUST them, im just not sure how far to adjust them. so you get 1 k+ because you were a jack about it,but you somewhat answered my question, and i actually got them adjusted right before you commented. lol
Dec 10 2014 10:20PM
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shin-bang
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GnarcoYou want the toe contacting the small wings on the toe piece. Not so much the toe starts to spread apart but enough that the toe is fully seated in the toe piece. Put the toe in and push the boot forward with your hand, then push the heel down into the binding. Then set the forward pressure


you have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. yes i know the toe of the binding touches the toe of the boot. and all you FKS users, NEVER EVER DO WHAT HE SAID. when you have the boot in the binding, and try to adjust the forward pressure (you spin the threaded tubes), IT WILL STRIP THE THREADS . i repeat never spin those arms if pressure on the turntable. take the boot out of the binding, flip the "dildo" up, and go one spin on the right arm, one spin on the left arm, never go more than one spin on each side at once. always remember, never adjust the fp on FKS with the boot inside the binding, it will strip the threads. play it safe and take the boot in and out until the FP is properly set. (the little white FP indicator doesnt mean your pressure is set right)
Dec 10 2014 10:31PM
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Iraq_Lobster
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these probems can usually be avoided by NOT buying a binding because of the color, or because all the pro's ride em. Just saying you could have gotten a solid marker or solomon binding that does the same thing an FKS does.
Dec 11 2014 12:14AM
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shin-bang
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Iraq_Lobsterthese probems can usually be avoided by NOT buying a binding because of the color, or because all the pro's ride em. Just saying you could have gotten a solid marker or solomon binding that does the same thing an FKS does.


i actually rode marker for a while. i didnt like them. FKS have more elasticity, lower stack height, better reliabiltity (in my personal experience), and markers have just a plasticy feel that i hate. fks has been around for years and has proven its worth. ive had difficulties in the past with marker, and like the fks 100x more. if i could just stick with the same boot for more than one season they would have been fine. i would buy STH2s and attacks before any other marker binding. and you see the pros using marker too dont we? there was a reason i picked fks, i just need a boot that fits properly and stick with that boot.
Dec 11 2014 12:28AM
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SFBv420.0
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ive got a shitload of fks mounting and adjusting experience
so save your e-cookies for those who give fucs about tthem
clueless noobz shouldn't use dildo binders is the bottom line
and there are these binding tech manuals
and this thing cALLED GOOGLE
-k for being to lazy to search jong
Dec 11 2014 9:37AM
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Justo8484
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a_shaky_gifi actually rode marker for a while. i didnt like them. FKS have more elasticity, lower stack height, better reliabiltity (in my personal experience), and markers have just a plasticy feel that i hate. fks has been around for years and has proven its worth. ive had difficulties in the past with marker, and like the fks 100x more. if i could just stick with the same boot for more than one season they would have been fine. i would buy STH2s and attacks before any other marker binding. and you see the pros using marker too dont we? there was a reason i picked fks, i just need a boot that fits properly and stick with that boot.


i like you. you get it. stack height and elasticity are exactly why i have pivot/fks bindings on all my skis as well.
Dec 11 2014 10:19AM
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PacificRimJob
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Iraq_Lobsterthese probems can usually be avoided by NOT buying a binding because of the color, or because all the pro's ride em. Just saying you could have gotten a solid marker or solomon binding that does the same thing an FKS does.


You're an ignorant idiot... Who says he purchased them because of the colour?

Find me a Marker or Salomon that has a 360 degree heel and I'll give you a cookie, jerkbag.
Dec 12 2014 10:24AM
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tomPietrowski
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DingoSeanYou're an ignorant idiot... Who says he purchased them because of the colour?

Find me a Marker or Salomon that has a 360 degree heel and I'll give you a cookie, jerkbag.


How about, more elasticity, better forward pressure adjustment, much better toe adjustment and cheap and easily replaced brakes. Really fks have had their day in my opinion. Until they get a redesign to address modern skiing I would not often recommend them.
Dec 12 2014 1:26PM
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PacificRimJob
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tomPietrowskiHow about, more elasticity, better forward pressure adjustment, much better toe adjustment and cheap and easily replaced brakes. Really fks have had their day in my opinion. Until they get a redesign to address modern skiing I would not often recommend them.


I mean, fair enough, but I was relaying to the pompous attitude presented... The dude already bought the bindings and slapped them on his skis. No need to be a jackass about it.

Regardless, the FKS/Pivots are just fine for most bigtime applications. I liked mine a lot.
Dec 12 2014 10:01PM
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HuckNorris44
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a_shaky_gifdo i need to adjust it so that my boot toe actually touches the two bumpers? or is it fine how it is.


a_shaky_gifyou have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. yes i know the toe of the binding touches the toe of the boot.


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Dec 12 2014 10:22PM
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scratchskier321
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a_shaky_gifyou have absolutely no idea what youre talking about. yes i know the toe of the binding touches the toe of the boot. and all you FKS users, NEVER EVER DO WHAT HE SAID. when you have the boot in the binding, and try to adjust the forward pressure (you spin the threaded tubes), IT WILL STRIP THE THREADS . i repeat never spin those arms if pressure on the turntable. take the boot out of the binding, flip the "dildo" up, and go one spin on the right arm, one spin on the left arm, never go more than one spin on each side at once. always remember, never adjust the fp on FKS with the boot inside the binding, it will strip the threads. play it safe and take the boot in and out until the FP is properly set. (the little white FP indicator doesnt mean your pressure is set right)


havent seen threads strip before. Can't rly see this being a big deal unless your arms are already mega tight and your way overdoing it.
Dec 13 2014 12:29AM
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