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Pregnant woman goes ham on anti-abortion protesters in London
CliffyByroThey're an organisation that protest against abortion. Like that's how they spend their time. They weren't just randomly doing it
Yeah the guy clearly had it switched on haha
I've been to several anti abortion protests. /Claim
Also yeah, too bad none of them grasped that. That said I understand where he was coming from. I legitimately believe the camera wasn't on to take video of people going into the clinic but instead capture any drama that happened involving them. If they got attacked or somebody said they attacked them they would have a video of said incident. Like people recording cops etc.
theabortionatorI've been to several anti abortion protests. /Claim
Also yeah, too bad none of them grasped that. That said I understand where he was coming from. I legitimately believe the camera wasn't on to take video of people going into the clinic but instead capture any drama that happened involving them. If they got attacked or somebody said they attacked them they would have a video of said incident. Like people recording cops etc.
"been to" as a protester or like just happened to be there?
yeah i agree it's a very good idea to have it, but i think it should only be on if and when police are present or if something starts kicking off. no reason to just be standing on a street with a camera on
Didn't watch the video yet but I drive by a planned parenthood on the way to school multiple times a week. Protesters are outside of the place %75 of the time. I make sure I slow down every time and yell some obscenity related to how they should've been aborted. Yeah I know I'm pretty tuf.
theabortionatorI've been to several anti abortion protests. /Claim
Also yeah, too bad none of them grasped that. That said I understand where he was coming from. I legitimately believe the camera wasn't on to take video of people going into the clinic but instead capture any drama that happened involving them. If they got attacked or somebody said they attacked them they would have a video of said incident. Like people recording cops etc.
My point proven.
It doesn't matter if his intention was to film awesome cars driving by while protesting over another person's personal and rightful choice. He was clearly filming anyone he was facing, including all the women he was harassing during one of the most difficult times of their lives. Its illegal and morally wrong to purposely film someone especially when they're walking into a clinic like that.
I wonder what the religious fanatics would do if people stood outside the churches protesting the morally corrupt and unhealthy behavior religion teaches while holding up a 20ft. tapestry of blood streaming down a naked Jesus with a sword spilling his guts on the cross?
CliffyByro"been to" as a protester or like just happened to be there?
yeah i agree it's a very good idea to have it, but i think it should only be on if and when police are present or if something starts kicking off. no reason to just be standing on a street with a camera on
Somewhere in the middle. Never outside of a clinic as far as I know though. Just rallies on the side of the road with signs and stuff. Christian parents'd. It's been a good 15 years though.
I agree, maybe he was. Maybe he had it on at the end in case shit got crazy. Idk, I don't really care. I go in the back entrance there anyway.
I hate people who give so many fucks about other peoples personal decisions, and sit around on their asses all day outside some clinic when millions of people die in africa from lack of water. /rant
MLJI hate people who give so many fucks about other peoples personal decisions, and sit around on their asses all day outside some clinic when millions of people die in africa from lack of water. /rant
Well if you thought of it as murder it's different than protesting because somebody likes green instead of blue.
That said priorities are a little out there. We have a shit ton of people on this earth, assclowns popping out 19 kids for their stupid reality show, lots of orphans that nobody wants.
I wonder the percentage of people that are strongly against abortions that have adopted a kid. Probably isn't that high.
milk_manAt least they know how to do things peacefully. But why are you mad at the peaceful protestors? They aren't doing anything wrong.
You think spreading hate and shame against people who want the right to make decisions about what they do with their own body isn't wrong? It's not peaceful either, as shown by this video. It's deeply morally offensive, regardless of how these sorts of protesters choose to conduct themselves.
Furthermore, don't you think it's ultra hypocritical that these people are essentially protesting to have more poeple on the earth (and smearing those who think that's probably not a good idea) instead of actually helping the masses who are already in great need and living horribly depressing lives?
I think the strongest point against pro-life, one which presumably people like you and others similar are either failing to understand or choosing to ignore, is this: there is an extreme difference between living and surviving. Do you accept that? Do you understand that pregnancies can be unplanned, and bringing an unwanted baby into the world against the mothers'/parents' will is typically going to ensure that it, at worst, lives a life devoid of financial and loving support, filled with misery and pain?
We're supposed to be living in the first world. Take woman off the animal cycle with which they have been chained to for so long, and give them control of their reproductive organs. Great cure for poverty, too, while we're at it.
/rant
las.You think spreading hate and shame against people who want the right to make decisions about what they do with their own body isn't wrong? It's not peaceful either, as shown by this video. It's deeply morally offensive, regardless of how these sorts of protesters choose to conduct themselves.
Furthermore, don't you think it's ultra hypocritical that these people are essentially protesting to have more poeple on the earth (and smearing those who think that's probably not a good idea) instead of actually helping the masses who are already in great need and living horribly depressing lives?
I think the strongest point against pro-life, one which presumably people like you and others similar are either failing to understand or choosing to ignore, is this: there is an extreme difference between living and surviving. Do you accept that? Do you understand that pregnancies can be unplanned, and bringing an unwanted baby into the world against the mothers'/parents' will is typically going to ensure that it, at worst, lives a life devoid of financial and loving support, filled with misery and pain?
We're supposed to be living in the first world. Take woman off the animal cycle with which they have been chained to for so long, and give them control of their reproductive organs. Great cure for poverty, too, while we're at it.
/rant
How you morally feel does not mean it isn't peaceful.
In terms of more people on the earth these people are also against having promiscuous sex as well. Although some churches still teach "As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth abundantly and multiply in it." - Genesis 9:7 which is fucking ridiculous.
What you fail to understand is that it's all a matter of how you view life and where it's created. If somebody kills a kid or leaves a new born baby in a dumpster those are major crimes. So where does it all begin? There's viewing the fetus as a miniature baby(which it does look like) This isn't the same as saying that a woman's vajayjay belongs to jebus and if she ever looks at it, let's the doctor look at it, or touches it she will for sure burn in hell forever.
There's everything from conception being a baby(Maybe even splooge?) to it's not a baby till it crawls out of your snatch to who cares let it feed itself.
Both sides see it clearly and can't understand why the otherside can't grasp it. But you will never come together because you both have a strong argument that you feel is soundly based. The "It's her body let her do what she want's" and the "Omg you're coathangering a baby over there".
Now matter how many times this issue is hashed out there will always be a divide. Just the way it is
theabortionatorBoth sides see it clearly and can't understand why the otherside can't grasp it. But you will never come together because you both have a strong argument that you feel is soundly based. The "It's her body let her do what she want's" and the "Omg you're coathangering a baby over there".
Now matter how many times this issue is hashed out there will always be a divide. Just the way it is
Except one side uses science and facts and the other side uses a thousand year old text that was written by a collection of 30 dudes and has been translated/re-written dozens of times throughout the generations...
It'll change. The religious right always changes their views once the rest of society cock-slaps the truth in their collective face hard enough. Religion is poison and has always been against the progress of humanity.
JenniferGarnerExcept one side uses science and facts and the other side uses a thousand year old text that was written by a collection of 30 dudes and has been translated/re-written dozens of times throughout the generations...
It'll change. The religious right always changes their views once the rest of society cock-slaps the truth in their collective face hard enough. Religion is poison and has always been against the progress of humanity.
You do realize that not all pro-life people are religious right?
las.You think spreading hate and shame against people who want the right to make decisions about what they do with their own body isn't wrong? It's not peaceful either, as shown by this video. It's deeply morally offensive, regardless of how these sorts of protesters choose to conduct themselves.
Furthermore, don't you think it's ultra hypocritical that these people are essentially protesting to have more poeple on the earth (and smearing those who think that's probably not a good idea) instead of actually helping the masses who are already in great need and living horribly depressing lives?
I think the strongest point against pro-life, one which presumably people like you and others similar are either failing to understand or choosing to ignore, is this: there is an extreme difference between living and surviving. Do you accept that? Do you understand that pregnancies can be unplanned, and bringing an unwanted baby into the world against the mothers'/parents' will is typically going to ensure that it, at worst, lives a life devoid of financial and loving support, filled with misery and pain?
We're supposed to be living in the first world. Take woman off the animal cycle with which they have been chained to for so long, and give them control of their reproductive organs. Great cure for poverty, too, while we're at it.
/rant
That's like saying that people who have an extremely low standard of living would rather be dead. Which is dreadfully untrue. Even the absolute poorest person in America is still better off than a lot of the world.. And people with low quality lives can still be happy. But you're right, just don't give the baby a chance at all. (sarcasm)
JenniferGarnerReligions- We care about unborn babies because they need someone to defend them!
baby is born
Religions- We don't care about your single mother problems. You shouldn't have had a baby out of wedlock!
So. Misinformed. I. Can't. Take. It.
You read that online, and believed it. I'm pretty sure I would know how Christians feel about adoption and single mothers.. The church I go to in my town is accepting of anyone. And whenever strangers come they are warmly welcomed. Stop judging religions by what you read online.
theabortionatorHow you morally feel does not mean it isn't peaceful.
In terms of more people on the earth these people are also against having promiscuous sex as well. Although some churches still teach "As for you, be fruitful and multiply; Populate the earth abundantly and multiply in it." - Genesis 9:7 which is fucking ridiculous.
What you fail to understand is that it's all a matter of how you view life and where it's created. If somebody kills a kid or leaves a new born baby in a dumpster those are major crimes. So where does it all begin? There's viewing the fetus as a miniature baby(which it does look like) This isn't the same as saying that a woman's vajayjay belongs to jebus and if she ever looks at it, let's the doctor look at it, or touches it she will for sure burn in hell forever.
There's everything from conception being a baby(Maybe even splooge?) to it's not a baby till it crawls out of your snatch to who cares let it feed itself.
Both sides see it clearly and can't understand why the otherside can't grasp it. But you will never come together because you both have a strong argument that you feel is soundly based. The "It's her body let her do what she want's" and the "Omg you're coathangering a baby over there".
Now matter how many times this issue is hashed out there will always be a divide. Just the way it is
You've misunderstood me. It's not a peaceful protest when what they're protesting for is blatantly offensive and insulting (in this case in a moral sense, by saying you don't even have the right to choose what you do with your own body). Similarly, look at the WBC. By your definition, their protests are peaceful too. Protesting in a non-violent manner waving obscene signs around does not automatically equal a peaceful protest, as proven by the op video, and to a far greater extent by the cowards that are the WBC protesting/picketing funerals etc.
To where humans come from, I think I understand childbirth quite well actually, thanks to medical science. How conception and gestation and childbirth all work isn't a matter of opinion; it's scientific, observable fact. There's nothing supernatural about it. Your view or opinion is completely irrelevant.
That's all still beside the main point, though. If a pregnancy is unwanted (which could be for various rational, legitimate reasons), regardless of what age you consider the fetus to become a human being, the decision to keep or terminate it should be solely with the mother. It's astonishing how people arguing against that can even think they have a foot to stand on
You read that online, and believed it. I'm pretty sure I would know how Christians feel about adoption and single mothers.. The church I go to in my town is accepting of anyone. And whenever strangers come they are warmly welcomed. Stop judging religions by what you read online.
No, only from what I experience in the real world. "all are welcome into our church on Sunday.... oh social programs, welfare, food stamps, section 8 affordable housing... WASTE OF TAXPAYER MONEY! SHOULDA KEPT IT IN YOUR PANTS! SINNER!"
las.You've misunderstood me. It's not a peaceful protest when what they're protesting for is blatantly offensive and insulting (in this case in a moral sense, by saying you don't even have the right to choose what you do with your own body). Similarly, look at the WBC. By your definition, their protests are peaceful too. Protesting in a non-violent manner waving obscene signs around does not automatically equal a peaceful protest, as proven by the op video, and to a far greater extent by the cowards that are the WBC protesting/picketing funerals etc.
To where humans come from, I think I understand childbirth quite well actually, thanks to medical science. How conception and gestation and childbirth all work isn't a matter of opinion; it's scientific, observable fact. There's nothing supernatural about it. Your view or opinion is completely irrelevant.
That's all still beside the main point, though. If a pregnancy is unwanted (which could be for various rational, legitimate reasons), regardless of what age you consider the fetus to become a human being, the decision to keep or terminate it should be solely with the mother. It's astonishing how people arguing against that can even think they have a foot to stand on
No I think you misunderstood me. I mentioned what you're talking about. To you it's a decision about their body. To them it's a decision for the life or death of a baby. You're on different sides of the coin here. They feel what you support is morally shit and you feel the same way as them. You're likely never going to come together on this though.
And can people stop talking about the wbc please? Everybody talking about them, getting butthurt about them, writing articles about them is the only thing that keeps them going. Either ignore them or do something about it. They would have given up years ago but it;s so easy for them to get national maybe even world attention.
You can keep yelling on your soapbox but they're going to keep doing the same thing from there's.
las.You think spreading hate and shame against people who want the right to make decisions about what they do with their own body isn't wrong? It's not peaceful either, as shown by this video. It's deeply morally offensive, regardless of how these sorts of protesters choose to conduct themselves.
Furthermore, don't you think it's ultra hypocritical that these people are essentially protesting to have more poeple on the earth (and smearing those who think that's probably not a good idea) instead of actually helping the masses who are already in great need and living horribly depressing lives?
I think the strongest point against pro-life, one which presumably people like you and others similar are either failing to understand or choosing to ignore, is this: there is an extreme difference between living and surviving. Do you accept that? Do you understand that pregnancies can be unplanned, and bringing an unwanted baby into the world against the mothers'/parents' will is typically going to ensure that it, at worst, lives a life devoid of financial and loving support, filled with misery and pain?
We're supposed to be living in the first world. Take woman off the animal cycle with which they have been chained to for so long, and give them control of their reproductive organs. Great cure for poverty, too, while we're at it.
/rant
never understood why people cared so much about what other people do with their bodies. the whole pro-life/pro-choice debate to me is the equivalent of worrying about how someone takes a shit.
theabortionatorNo I think you misunderstood me. I mentioned what you're talking about. To you it's a decision about their body. To them it's a decision for the life or death of a baby. You're on different sides of the coin here. They feel what you support is morally shit and you feel the same way as them. You're likely never going to come together on this though.
And can people stop talking about the wbc please? Everybody talking about them, getting butthurt about them, writing articles about them is the only thing that keeps them going. Either ignore them or do something about it. They would have given up years ago but it;s so easy for them to get national maybe even world attention.
You can keep yelling on your soapbox but they're going to keep doing the same thing from there's.
Good luck.
The difference between the two positions, though, is that one is logical and humane, whilst the other is barbaric and morally bankrupt religious bullying. There aren't two ways about that, either.
Thankfully, the world is progressing and usually these disgusting habits eventually eradicate themselves, but yeah, you're probably right. Arguing on the Internet about it was naive and clumsy of me
las.The difference between the two positions, though, is that one is logical and humane, whilst the other is barbaric and morally bankrupt religious bullying. There aren't two ways about that, either.
Thankfully, the world is progressing and usually these disgusting habits eventually eradicate themselves
Throughout history religion has proven itself to be only against equality and progression for the good of humanity. I want someone to prove how religion has been beneficial to this planet. The only claim is giving humanity morals which is something that would exist without some book. Everything else the church has done has been to prevent human progress. Science, civil rights, immigration, learning, asking questions, gender equality, women's rights, etc.
If you look throughout history at all the important events of human history, religion has always been the ones against it and Christians and the Catholic church are the worst offenders.
JenniferGarnerThroughout history religion has proven itself to be only against equality and progression for the good of humanity. I want someone to prove how religion has been beneficial to this planet. The only claim is giving humanity morals which is something that would exist without some book. Everything else the church has done has been to prevent human progress. Science, civil rights, immigration, learning, asking questions, gender equality, women's rights, etc.
If you look throughout history at all the important events of human history, religion has always been the ones against it and Christians and the Catholic church are the worst offenders.
I won't argue that terrible things haven't been done in the name of religion, however I think you are being a bit naive if you truly think religion hasn't ALSO benefited society in some pretty significant ways. For instance, the influence of Christianity throughout the last 2000 years has been credited with an increased regard for human life, women's rights, charity, compassion, education, liberty, justice, and economic freedom, Furthermore, Christianity deserves credit for significant contributions to art, architecture, and literature.
“‘The [Christian] Gospels are the very building blocks of our civilization.
Without them Giotto would not have painted his frescoes in the Arena
Chapel at Padua; Dante would not have written Divine Comedy; Mozart
would not have composed his Requiem; and Wren would not have built
St. Paul’s Cathedral. The story and message of these four books~along
with the Judaic tradition of the Old Testament~pervade not only the
moral conventions of the West but also our system of social organization,
nomenclature, architecture, literature and education, as well as the
rituals of marriage and death which shape our lives…Christians and
non-Christians alike.’” -Carsten Thiede and Matthew D’Ancon
CirilloDidn't watch the video yet but I drive by a planned parenthood on the way to school multiple times a week. Protesters are outside of the place %75 of the time. I make sure I slow down every time and yell some obscenity related to how they should've been aborted. Yeah I know I'm pretty tuf.
hehe this made me smile
milk_manSo. Misinformed. I. Can't. Take. It.
You read that online, and believed it. I'm pretty sure I would know how Christians feel about adoption and single mothers.. The church I go to in my town is accepting of anyone. And whenever strangers come they are warmly welcomed. Stop judging religions by what you read online.
I have to agree with the person you are fighting with. until I was like 13 my parents made me go to my grandparents church and it was dreadful. they look down on anyone that is divorced or is a single parent. they do not allow gays to become members of this church and will shame anyone that is pro-choice (whether they are male or female) PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE WE ARE ALL EQUAL!! no matter what decisions you make
