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how many americans died from ebola recently? (1, and one visitor from another country) how many americans were/are scared of ebola? (about 40%, according to polls)
how many unarmed black men are killed by white cops in america? how many unarmed black CHILDREN are killed by white cops in america?
unfortunately, your government actually chooses not to keep track of these numbers, so i can't tell you. all i can say is that it happens almost every single day.
so this is what an epidemic looks like. this what black americans are afraid of. this is the nightmare every black american is now living in. how it isn't a nightmare for the rest of you, too, is beyond me. i live in canada and this shit keeps me up all night. i can only imagine how my jamaican cousins that moved to america to study feel, all i know is that they think it's time to leave, and i agree. do you?
the "go back to where you came from" mentality strikes an ironic chord with me (the irony of white americans all being immigrants chord was struck a while back), in that if all of the persecuted and marginalized groups in america did actually go elsewhere, what would america be? i imagine a nation in which crusty old racists clean their own toilets, for a change.
J.D.But after getting some more info, and watching the thing closely, with the sound ("I can't breathe" is just chilling) it's pretty clear that they... killed the guy. For no reason. And I think any reasonable person of any race who HAS taken the time to look at the facts there probably agrees.
the timing on this shit was pretty perfect. right after Bill O'Reilly said "wait, that's fucked up."
Both of those should be reason enough for him to be killed.
What a fucked up thing to post. You should have a chance to lose weight first before being killed. Fat people are useless pieces of shit that do nothing but drain our economy and our natural resources. Even the bible is against fat people. The only people who are fine with fat people are other fat people.
also you guys kind of hurt the argument of it not being a cold-blooded murder when you suggest that's the kind of action you would have taken. like, according to this forum, about 90% of NS would kill a man for no reason, but a cop who breaks protocol and training and ignores pleas for restraint is not capable of such thoughts? sure. keep talking in circles, trying to justify people's murders with irrelevant information, it makes everything i'm saying pretty fucking evident. what's to prevent shitheads like you trolls from becoming shitty cops? not much.
k-robalso you guys kind of hurt the argument of it not being a cold-blooded murder when you suggest that's the kind of action you would have taken. like, according to this forum, about 90% of NS would kill a man for no reason, but a cop who breaks protocol and training and ignores pleas for restraint is not capable of such thoughts? sure. keep talking in circles, trying to justify people's murders with irrelevant information, it makes everything i'm saying pretty fucking evident. what's to prevent shitheads like you trolls from becoming shitty cops? not much.
90% of NS has been suckling on the fox news teet for too long...
I gather that all this says is police aren't allowed to use tear gas on protestors, except that they still are allowed to, so long as they first make a determination that the protestors are intending to cause a disturbance of the peace.
That's pretty fair, you shouldn't use tear gas on ANYONE unless you have good reason to think they're going to engage in a disturbance of the peace or something similar.
It says you are such an idiot that people don't even know how to respond to your posts; the points are just so mind numbingly idiotic that the best option is usually to just ignore you
JenniferGarnerIts hard to manage money or to know how to succeed when you were never given a chance at a proper education that teaches you all those things. Throwing money at a problem never solves it.
This thread is full of so much racism and ignorance that its mind-blowing. Read through and count how many times kids refer to people with dark skin as "the blacks" or "blacks". Yeah, not racist at all.
So is calling white people "whites" racist? Cause god knows Ive heard that plenty of times. Fact is I think there are quite a few black racists too. In fact, Id say a majority of them are. I don't get how group A can have a name for group B and its racist, but if group B has a name for group A it isn't. So how does that work?
Granite_StateSo is calling white people "whites" racist? Cause god knows Ive heard that plenty of times. Fact is I think there are quite a few black racists too. In fact, Id say a majority of them are. I don't get how group A can have a name for group B and its racist, but if group B has a name for group A it isn't. So how does that work?
Sam, you cannot be racist against whites in the US. You can certainly be prejudiced, but that's not the same thing.
rtl32It says you are such an idiot that people don't even know how to respond to your posts; the points are just so mind numbingly idiotic that the best option is usually to just ignore you
Or they're genius and you're all too stupid to grasp my concepts.
When everyone else in the world seem like idiots and you think you're a genius, chances are, you're the idiot. Unless you're me than everyone else are really that stupid.
*CUMMINGS*Sam, you cannot be racist against whites in the US. You can certainly be prejudiced, but that's not the same thing.
No you are right. I guess I'm looking at it on a more simplistic level. Just curious how even calling someone "black" is considered racist. I feel, if anything, calling them African Americans is far more insulting opposed to calling them black.
"Two NYPD Officers Beaten Near End of Peaceful March"
look, I can do it too.
yeah but can you charge a police officer for beating up an old man because he jaywalked and couldn't understand why he was being harassed for crossing the street? i bet you can't. i bet the whole fucking justice system couldn't even charge a single police officer for killing an unarmed person in the street. but if you punch a cop, your ass goes to jail, if he doesn't shoot you first.
k-robyeah but can you charge a police officer for beating up an old man because he jaywalked and couldn't understand why he was being harassed for crossing the street? i bet you can't. i bet the whole fucking justice system couldn't even charge a single police officer for killing an unarmed person in the street. but if you punch a cop, your ass goes to jail, if he doesn't shoot you first.
none of the protesters who beat those cops from the article I posted were arrested...
seriously though, obviously the solution to these problems isn't violence. although i'm sure the broken nose this cop has suffered is an egregious affront to his normally not-broken nose, the mothers of children killed at the hands of police officers are a hell of a lot more pissed than anyone, and they have yet to resort to violence (unless they were the perpetrators of said nose-breaking, in which case, go moms), but you won't hear that in the news.
yeah man the world would definitely be so much safer without the police.
it's so easy to pick out one or two cops who are actually not good people, or the ones who make a mistake, but you are completely blind to the amount of good they do in the world. you really think the media is going to make reports on the police officers who go out of their way to make a positive change in peoples' lives? no, because what's interesting nowadays to this generation is how horrible the government is and how brutal all the police are, and how we all need to be afraid of them coming to our house and murdering us in our sleep. it's pathetic.
two of the nicest, most honest people I know are cops and genuinely want to help people and do it every day. they do a job that most people can't or won't do in order for others to feel safe and protected
plyswthsqrrlsyeah man the world would definitely be so much safer without the police.
it's so easy to pick out one or two cops who are actually not good people, or the ones who make a mistake, but you are completely blind to the amount of good they do in the world. you really think the media is going to make reports on the police officers who go out of their way to make a positive change in peoples' lives? no, because what's interesting nowadays to this generation is how horrible the government is and how brutal all the police are, and how we all need to be afraid of them coming to our house and murdering us in our sleep. it's pathetic.
two of the nicest, most honest people I know are cops and genuinely want to help people and do it every day. they do a job that most people can't or won't do in order for others to feel safe and protected
yeah dude and one police officer hugged one protestor. but what did it change? nothing.
plyswthsqrrlsyeah man the world would definitely be so much safer without the police.
you might consider that your world and mine are completely different. i don't think i've ever been safe in my life, especially not around a fucking cop.
k-robyou might consider that your world and mine are completely different. i don't think i've ever been safe in my life, especially not around a fucking cop.
And obviously saying fuck the police and hating on them is going to change that.
MLK would be ashamed of you.
"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
k-robseriously though, obviously the solution to these problems isn't violence. although i'm sure the broken nose this cop has suffered is an egregious affront to his normally not-broken nose, the mothers of children killed at the hands of police officers are a hell of a lot more pissed than anyone, and they have yet to resort to violence (unless they were the perpetrators of said nose-breaking, in which case, go moms), but you won't hear that in the news.
You did say violence isn't there answer, then directly condoned it under certain circumstances. So, you more or less were impartial about its effect.
Nice try though KRob. Seriously. Your logic throughout these threads is quite impressive.
"stop trolling" i post an example of police brutality in which officers aren't charged, and you post an example of a cop getting his nose broken during the unrest that's been started by cops hurting innocent people and not being charged. fuck off with your accusations of trolling J.D., you posted that Eric Garner deserved to die and a week later changed your mind. this is a thread about rampant and evident police brutality, not the two cops you know that haven't been running around shooting unarmed people. not to mention it's MY FUCKING THREAD, you're the ones trolling it by pretending well-documented police brutality and not-so-well-documented killings of unarmed citizens by police have never happened. every 28 hours. every 28 fucking hours, and that's why it's higher on my list of things to give a fuck about than a cops broken nose, or my broken hand, or your friends the good cops.
it's about innocent people being killed in the street by the people we're supposed to trust to protect us from being killed in the street. it's about police officers being convicted when they take out unarmed civilians, specifically those of colour. i know there's good cops, but hey guess what, even they get killed by bad cops. they shoot little kids. THEY SHOOT LITTLE SLEEPING GIRLS IN THE HEAD BECAUSE THEY IGNORE THEIR TRAINING AND BREAK PROTOCOL, AND THEY GET AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THEY'RE COPS.
but nothing's wrong. that's obviously just how it's supposed to be (in america).
.MASSHOLE.You did say violence isn't there answer, then directly condoned it under certain circumstances. So, you more or less were impartial about its effect.
oh yeah, and this thread isn't just me arguing with people who think that killing unarmed people in the street is ok. i'm literally arguing that you shouldn't be shot in the street for eating a sandwich, and you guys are arguing the opposite. so who's impartial about the effects? you care more about cops broken noses than dead children.
k-roboh yeah, and this thread isn't just me arguing with people who think that killing unarmed people in the street is ok. i'm literally arguing that you shouldn't be shot in the street for eating a sandwich, and you guys are arguing the opposite. so who's impartial about the effects? you care more about cops broken noses than dead children.
I never argued the opposite. I have said before that cops need to be held accountable for their actions, but you seem to have forgotten that. But you are advocating that a violent approach by those who feel threatened or upset by the police in certain situations. Could not the same be said for the police?
.MASSHOLE.I never argued the opposite. I have said before that cops need to be held accountable for their actions, but you seem to have forgotten that. But you are advocating that a violent approach by those who feel threatened or upset by the police in certain situations. Could not the same be said for the police?
honestly i can't differentiate between all your shitty icons, i just see "cops are good. unarmed black children are bad. eric garner made $100 tax-free so he should be suffocated. mike brown might have stolen a pack of cigs and turned around after he was shot at multiple times, so he should be killed. beating up old chinese men is okay as long as a completely unrelated incident in which a cops nose was broken happened."
i didn't even notice your username til i just looked at it now. the only reason i noticed J.D. is because he's green and he's been here a long time, and he's supposed to have some knowledge of justice. i'm just reading and responding to shitty arguments, i don't care whose is whose. i am glad you're one of the 4 people in the thread who thinks cops should be held accountable, so i don't know why you keep picking on the joke i made about how a broken nose here or there isn't shit compared to the murder of little kids. you forget that i'm not the one who brings up these irrelevant cases of cops not hurting innocent people?
k-robhonestly i can't differentiate between all your shitty icons, i just see "cops are good. unarmed black children are bad. eric garner made $100 tax-free so he should be suffocated. mike brown might have stolen a pack of cigs and turned around after he was shot at multiple times, so he should be killed. beating up old chinese men is okay as long as a completely unrelated incident in which a cops nose was broken happened."
i didn't even notice your username til i just looked at it now. the only reason i noticed J.D. is because he's green and he's been here a long time, and he's supposed to have some knowledge of justice. i'm just reading and responding to shitty arguments, i don't care whose is whose. i am glad you're one of the 4 people in the thread who thinks cops should be held accountable, so i don't know why you keep picking on the joke i made about how a broken nose here or there isn't shit compared to the murder of little kids. you forget that i'm not the one who brings up these irrelevant cases of cops not hurting innocent people?
not one single person in this thread has ever said that either garner or brown should have been killed because of their petty crimes, I have no idea where you get that from.
brown robbed a convenience store, assaulted the owner, assaulted a cop, and proceeded to charge an officer with his weapon drawn. All physical evidence from the scene supports this sequence of events, that is what happened, and there was no crime committed by the officer. end of fucking story
garner, however, is a different story. yes, he was resisting arrest, but I'm not a cop so I can't say whether or not the force used was or was not a part of their training (some people say yes, some say no). I reserve judgement on his case, which is why I am not referencing it in my arguments (because hey, it really COULD be one of those few cases of excessive police force that do go unpunished, it DOES happen). You're blindly condemning all officers because of the mistakes of a few, which really were extraordinary circumstances.
I posted an article where "peaceful protesters" assaulted two cops after you posted one example of police "assaulting" a civilian, the two correlate. you're trying to build your argument about how awful the police force is, I'm countering by arguing they do their best in a profession which is widely hated by the general public and have to be on edge all day, every day.
I guess moral of my story is, I really hope you one day understand just what police officers go through in regards to their training (which is crazy) and every day work
*ignores training and protocol, accidentally shoots little girl in head, no consequences* it's okay though because some cops are good. good cops following their training and protocol negates the effect of having your child killed. nothing is wrong.
dude, i see your point, but my point is that there is a problem. i don't care if you don't think there is, because there is. i don't care if some cops go around making some people's days brighter, that's nice i guess, but it's not a problem. i have already stated that i have had countless encounters with police officers and not one of them was dumb or rude enough to shoot me with anything but a tazer, but those were canadian cops who were armed with non-lethal weapons that they chose to use instead of shooting me. so many cops shoot unarmed people in the states that they won't even keep track of how many times it happens, because if people knew, then they'd actually be pissed. right now, they just protest, in the hopes that something will change, but if their fellow citizens keep pretending that shooting unarmed civilians every 28 hours isn't a problem, and just a result of having to deal with people who actually do pose a threat (hey guess what, canadian cops do that too, and they don't go around killing everyone they see, but that's probably because the justice system here would actually convict them if they did that, because that's not what cops are supposed to do), then nothing will change. which i'm sure, is fine for like, 100% of the members on this site, including me, but it's not fine for the victims or their families.
if you are a grown-ass man with a gun and a bunch of other non-lethal weapons at your disposal, not to mention training in restraint and basic martial arts, i fail to see how someone smaller than you, unarmed, and in some cases, children, could possibly pose the threat these murderers have said they did, but maybe that's just me, a guy who doesn't carry weapons and isn't scared of random unarmed people who walk down the street. i can't say for sure, but i highly doubt that if i was a cop, i would shoot an unarmed man while he ran away from me, and then shoot him again when he turned and put his hands up, and then shoot him again when he knelt, and then shoot him again as he fell, all of this while he was over 30 feet away from me. and i think that if i did do that, i would deserve no less than a bullet in the head, which i would probably promptly give myself, and if that didn't happen, then i'd probably at least deserve a trial in a court of law.
i do not believe Darren Wilsons version of what happened. most of the world doesn't (it reeks of bullshit, ask a forensic pathologist). the coroner doesn't. the witnesses don't. but NS does, and FOX News does, and the police department that employed Darren does. you think i have to explain this on any other website on the internet? no, because this is the only site i frequent that doesn't think there's a huge fucking problem (i wonder if that has something to do with the overwhelming demographic of newschoolers. nahhhhh.). hell, people in syria and pakistan and afghanistan think that this is a big fucking problem, and they've got more than enough of their own problems, but hey guess what, the world takes notice when government employees start waging war on their people, the same as they do when it happens in any other country. china has to censor it's people to keep them from learning things that SOME americans willingly ignore.
again, not saying there aren't good cops, check out all these examples of cops not shooting people:
and back to the bad cops:
Trayvon was stalked. Aiyana was Sleeping. Oscar was riding a train. Renisha was crying for help. Kendrick was at school.
A father of four was killed Tuesday night while returning home with food for his children.
The incident left an unidentified white officer unharmed and unarmed Rumain Brisbon, 34, dead with two bullet wounds in his torso at a north Phoenix apartment complex.
According to Phoenix police, the officer was responding to a suspected drug deal when he came in contact with Rumain. The driver, later identified as Rumain, exited his car and seemed to remove something from the rear of the SUV.
Brandon Dickerson, who was in the car with Brisbon shortly before the shooting and witnessed some of the incident, said he never saw the officer try to talk with Brisbon.
Still, the officer drew his gun and pointed it at Brisbon, causing him to flee from fear. The officer chased him on foot and ‘a struggle ensued' when he caught up.
“During the struggle, Brisbon put his left hand in his pocket and the officer grabbed onto the suspect’s hand, while repeatedly telling the suspect to keep his hand in his pocket," he said. "The officer believed he felt the handle of a gun while holding the suspect’s hand in his pocket.”
A woman inside an apartment opened a door at that moment, and the officer and Brisbon tumbled inside, Crump said. Two children, ages 9 and 2, were in their bedroom. The officer then shot Rumain twice in the torso.
The item in Brisbon’s pocket turned out to be prescribed pills.
The media smear campaign has already begun. Brisbon was previously convicted for a burglary that occurred in 1998 and spent 5 years on probation. Although this has nothing to do with the shooting, the media is working hard to slander Rumain’s name.
here's some evidence of great police work, solved the case with no evidence at all, not even the gun:
back to the douchebags:
something from 1991 (assuming that's before most of you were born) to lighten the mood:
and now for the rapist cops:
Highway Patrol Captain George Brown says the best “tip” for women to not get raped by a cop is to “follow the law in the first place so you don’t get pulled over.” http://youtu.be/BO8g8akPWcY (Last third of the video).
Three serial rapists in 3 weeks arrested in Oklahoma, all cops.
some more facts for you guys to ignore (because someone posted them on twitter, much like how a witness who posted the events of mike brown's death within 3 minutes of it happening was ignored):
btw, that's your taxes that pay for police brutality. although i guess cops pay taxes too, so they are at least footing a percentage of the $3 billion paid out for brutality.
something that i already know isn't going to go over well because a lot of the posts in this forum say the stuff on the left, but don't get agitated. it's just how you sound, i know you're not the least bit prejudiced:
just something we notice:
White people: Omg. So just because he was a "racist" and a "slaveowner" and "helped wage genocide against Native Americans", he wasn't a good person? He was still our President. Leave him alone.
White people: Omg. So just because he was a "racist" and "beat the shit out of both of his wives" he was a bad person. He's still John Lennon. He was like, an activist. Do your research, and leave him alone.
White people: I heard he stole some cigarillos. He deserved to die.
White people: He was selling illegal cigarettes. He deserved to die.
Bob McCulloch is just a guy committing some harmless perjury:
it's actually totally okay to shoot people with their hands up, so even if Mike Brown did have them up, it doesn't matter: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-shoot-man-multiple-times-traffic-stop-obeying-officers-commands/
This week, Houston police shot an unarmed man multiple times because he was acting suspicious and not obeying their commands. Two officers fired multiple shots at 38-year old Mike Walker, with some of those shots being fired even after it was obvious that he did not have a gun.
The shooting occurred in the parking lot of a convenience store on Buffalo Speedway and West Fuqua, in front of multiple witnesses.
Walker was the passenger in a car that was pulled over for making an illegal lane change, but whether or not the driver was actually guilty of any traffic violations has not yet been proven. When the driver of the vehicle saw the police lights behind him, he pulled into a nearby Sunny’s Food Store.
According to police, they ordered the occupants of the car to sit still and put their hands up, and then they claim that Walker ignored their orders and reached under his seat. That’s when police immediately opened fire.
At that point, Walker, after already being shot, got out of the car and began to strip off his clothes. Clearly unarmed and not posing a threat, another officer got involved and shot him several more times.
“When I was about to walk into the store, I heard gunshots, so immediately I turned around and grabbed my son and got us both on the ground,” witness Laquesha Spencer told 2 News.
“I’m telling him ‘Lay down, they are going to shoot you. They are going to kill you.’ And I guess he was in shock, he had already been shot three times, because I heard multiple gunshots,” Spencer said.
There were a number of witnesses who overwhelmingly agreed that the police used excessive force and unnecessarily escalated the situation.
In a statement to the media, Houston Police Department spokesman Victor Senties said:
“They saw the doors open up, one of the officers gave repeated verbal commands to stay inside the vehicle, then the officer went to brace the door to keep him (the passenger) inside. At one point he had his arm all the way under the seat, right up to the elbow, as if he was trying to grab something. The officer gave him commands to show his hands … at that point the officer was in fear of his life and that of his partner. The second officer seeing the suspect try to reach into his waistband and into his sweater as if he was trying to locate something. He also feared for his safety and once he was out of the area, where there were people behind him the officer discharged his weapon as well.”
However, many witnesses dispute this struggle, and say that the man was simply ignoring officers, but not being aggressive in any way.
According to the victims mother, the police would not let her into the hospital to see her son, and had guarded his room for hours after the shooting.
“I was there ’till about 5 a.m. this morning, they have a police officer in his room and they won’t let me in there. He didn’t even have a gun. He’s never owned a weapon, he didn’t have one on him,” 53-year-old Laura Walker told reporters.
After shooting Walker, Police then arrested the driver and impounded his car to search for weapons, but they have not said if the driver, or Walker will face any charges.
Walker is currently being treated at Ben Taub Hospital where he is listed in serious, but stable condition.
and to cap it off, here's a heartwarming story about a baby's encounter with law enforcement:
This past spring, a SWAT team raided the home where Alecia and Bounkham Phonesavanh were sleeping with their four young children, releasing a “flash-bang” grenade that critically injured their toddler. Now, the family says they’re facing about $1 million in medical bills that they aren’t able to pay.
The Georgia SWAT team was trying to locate Bounkham Phonesavanh’s 30-year-old nephew, who was suspected of selling methamphetamine. After being tipped off by a confidential informant, drug agents got a “no-knock” search warrant, a controversial police tactic that allows officers to burst into private homes unannounced. After struggling to beat down the door of the home with a battering ram, they threw in a grenade; it landed in the 19-month-old toddler’s playpen.
The child, nicknamed “Bou Bou,” suffered serious burns and slipped into a medically induced coma after the grenade exploded. He was in a coma for five weeks, and hadextensive surgeries to repair his face and torso. Doctors are still trying to assess whether he will have lasting brain damage.
And while Bou Bou was fighting for his life, his family was accumulating significant medical debt from his intensive treatment. The Phonesavanhs have set up a online fund to solicit donations to help pay the bills, which they say are approaching the $1 million mark.
“Before this we didn’t owe anybody anything,” Alecia Phonesavanh told ABC News this week. “And now after all this, they have completely financially crippled us.”
Officials in the Georgia country where the raid occurred maintains have refused to paythe Phonesavanhs’ bills, saying they are legally prohibited from doing so. A section of the state constitution stipulates that local government cannot “grant any donation or gratuity or to forgive any debt or obligation owing to the public.”
The Phonesavanh family’s ordeal has sparked a national conversation about the over-militarization of the police and the lasting health consequences of the tactics that officers use during what are supposed to be non-lethal operations. It’s not uncommon for SWAT teams to inflict injury on innocent bystanders when they raid homes looking for drugs. According to the ACLU, the vast majority of SWAT raids are conducted on search warrants for drugs, even as the War on Drugs has increasingly lost support among political leaders and the American public.
Flash grenades in particular have a track record of harming children. In 2012, a 12-year-old girl in Montana suffered first degree burns after police detonated a flash grenade next to her bed. In 2010, a 7-year-old girl was killed in Detroit during a SWAT raid; her family says she was burned with a grenade before she was accidentally shot by the police.
“They made the mistake,” Alecia Phonesavanh told ABC News; there were no drugs or weapons found inside the home after the SWAT raid. “And we got the backlash of everything.”
awwww, doesn't it just make you want to hug a cop?
k-rob"stop trolling" i post an example of police brutality in which officers aren't charged, and you post an example of a cop getting his nose broken during the unrest that's been started by cops hurting innocent people and not being charged.
I did? I don't remember posting that.
Some of your posts are honestly held opinions but a lot of other shit is just you trying to get a rise out of people. Stick to the former.
Some of your posts are honestly held opinions but a lot of other shit is just you trying to get a rise out of people. Stick to the former.
i think you know i didn't mean you, and you're not the first person to suggest i'm trolling, which is why i didn't directly quote you.
the point was i'm not trolling, and as for getting a rise, i'm simply hoping for a human reaction to tragedy, not these "yeah but not all cops are bad" or "cops can't be racist" or "they probably deserved it" responses. there's a reason nobody will comment on the deaths of the children i mentioned, and if i had to guess i'd say it's because it's easier to pick on the deaths of eric or mike as being justified, for whatever reason, even though none of the crimes either committed should warrant being publicly executed, the same as playing with a toy gun or sleeping isn't something that little kids aren't allowed to do without being killed. yet, no convictions, and there won't be any if people keep pretending this doesn't happen, or that it should.
