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cornholioi didn't see any new laws mentioned but if you're referencing the resisting arrest part that's always been illegal
skiforce1Resiting arrest doesnt allow a cop to do an illegal chokehold on you that leads to your death.
cornholio"Police union officials and Pantaleo's lawyer have argued that the officer used a takedown move taught by the police department, not a chokehold, because he was resisting arrest and that Garner's poor health was the main reason he died."
cooperate with police and you won't find yourself in that situation. there's no way in hell the cop just walked up behind some random dude and choked him out. don't be a dipshit and stuff like this won't happen to you.
cornholiocooperate with police and you won't find yourself in that situation. there's no way in hell the cop just walked up behind some random dude and choked him out. don't be a dipshit and stuff like this won't happen to you.
cornholio"Police union officials and Pantaleo's lawyer have argued that the officer used a takedown move taught by the police department, not a chokehold, because he was resisting arrest and that Garner's poor health was the main reason he died."
cooperate with police and you won't find yourself in that situation. there's no way in hell the cop just walked up behind some random dude and choked him out. don't be a dipshit and stuff like this won't happen to you.
Moon_ShoesThere are different ways to take down an uncooperative suspect. That guy didn't deserve to lose his life for resisting arrest because he was selling cigarettes unlawfully.
JeremyClarksonYou're the dipshit. These fucking jackboot thugs circled around this guy like a pack of wolves to their prey. Then, one of the cunts goes for the neck and starts choking him TO DEATH. There is a difference between attacking a police officer and resisting. This criminal with a badge got away with MURDER.
cornholioi'm not saying he deserved to lose his life, but i do stand by my point that he would be alive today if he had cooperated
skiforce1When the cops are at you everyday , one day you are going to get sick of it and wont cooperate which happens very often in this country.
cornholiowhat are you doing where the cops are at you everyday?
cornholioi'm not saying he deserved to lose his life, but i do stand by my point that he would be alive today if he had cooperated
skiforce1For me when that was happening, going back and forth to work and driving the speed limit with a car that was legal. The fact that I was driving an older car past midnight made me a target. After the third DUI check you start wanting to just keep driving when you see the lights turn on behind you.
saskskierI feel like you probably aren't telling us something.
I've been pulled over only a few times in my 14 years of driving and each time was because I did something wrong. I don't know anyone who has randomly been pulled over for DUI checks, let alone multiple times.
skiforce1For me when that was happening, going back and forth to work and driving the speed limit with a car that was legal. The fact that I was driving an older car past midnight made me a target. After the third DUI check you start wanting to just keep driving when you see the lights turn on behind you.
Lé.Skiingwhich was reported as hearsay.
cornholio"Police union officials and Pantaleo's lawyer have argued that the officer used a takedown move taught by the police department, not a chokehold, because he was resisting arrest and that Garner's poor health was the main reason he died."
cooperate with police and you won't find yourself in that situation. there's no way in hell the cop just walked up behind some random dude and choked him out. don't be a dipshit and stuff like this won't happen to you.
k-robit's also illegal to film the police murdering someone now, as the guy who filmed it so the whole world could see what these cowards did is now facing an indictment, what a joke.
skiforce1For me when that was happening, going back and forth to work and driving the speed limit with a car that was legal. The fact that I was driving an older car past midnight made me a target. After the third DUI check you start wanting to just keep driving when you see the lights turn on behind you.
toastyteenagersThis is fucked up,
but can we please focus on all the good cops do?
omnidataProtests in 3.... 2... 1...
cool_nameDisclaimer, I haven't watched any videos on this or read into it, but isn't a choke hold a fairly common way to subdue someone non- lethally.it clearly didn't work that way this time, but it has a fairly proven tract record of just knocking the person out
.Hugo.i was expecting the cop to be holding him till he passed out the way everyone is all up in arms. he had him in the chokehold for 15 seconds and the guy never said "i cant breathe" until after the chokehold was released...
MiomoWhen you're a 400lb asthmatic, you shouldn't be resisting arrest. You think he died because someone put an arm around his neck? No. It wasn't an effort to choke him, it was an effort to subdue him and bring him down. The officer knows he's being filmed, you really think he'd be stupid enough to choke the guy out? No, of course not. He died because he was, as stated above, a 400lb asthmatic.
And if you believe the officers, or any officer for that matter, would get up because the guy said he couldn't breathe, then you're dead wrong. If a police officer did get off someone who was complaining, they'd be putting their own life at risk. I've seen videos of people complaining about how they were in pain or can't breathe during a forced arrest, and they're always full of shit. I'm not saying that this guy is, but maybe he shouldn't have resisted police. You can't win in that situation, especially when you're literally surrounded. The force they used was necessary and even perhaps required.
.Hugo.i was expecting the cop to be holding him till he passed out the way everyone is all up in arms. he had him in the chokehold for 15 seconds and the guy never said "i cant breathe" until after the chokehold was released...
.Hugo.i was expecting the cop to be holding him till he passed out the way everyone is all up in arms. he had him in the chokehold for 15 seconds and the guy never said "i cant breathe" until after the chokehold was released...
Steezy.jpegIt could be because when you are REALLY choking, you actually cannot talk. There is no air coming out of your lungs for you to make words with. Now imagine being in that situation... Just FUCKED.
cornholio"Police union officials and Pantaleo's lawyer have argued that the officer used a takedown move taught by the police department, not a chokehold, because he was resisting arrest and that Garner's poor health was the main reason he died."
.Hugo.i was expecting the cop to be holding him till he passed out the way everyone is all up in arms. he had him in the chokehold for 15 seconds and the guy never said "i cant breathe" until after the chokehold was released...
louie.miragsHis hands were up in the air while he is getting choked. That is why people are up in arms. Not to mention he was just selling lucys. Cigs are expensive as fuck in NY.
Yup. I agree it is fucked
Volkl_OneThis incident is so much more egregious than Michael Brown and yet I've heard almost nothing about it.
Guy was selling cigs. And now he's dead. Brooke Baldwin on CNN says "well, he didn't comply with police 100%." Fuck you, Brooke Baldwin! Arrest him for resisting then, he doesn't deserve to be choked to death. You can hear him on the tape begging. Saying that he can't breathe.
This is so insane.
.Hugo.His hands are up because he keeps pulling them away when the officers are trying to handcuff him. If a 350 lb man was resisting arrest and previously said "this ends today", would you let go of him before you get him under control and on the ground?
And cigarettes are expensive everywhere. Its illegal to sell loose cigs, whether you think its a big deal or not.
Bottom line, if he doesnt resist he is living today. Do i think he deserved to die? No, but he could have prevented it just as easy or easier than the cops could have
louie.miragsI just brought up the petty crime because who doesn't break petty crimes? Cops love to speed in their personal vehicles. I know a cop who drives plastered! I mean so fucking wasted. Some cops play illegal poker games... We all do something illegal.. And he is getting harassed by cops for selling lucys. Where there are tons and tons of people selling lucys in NYC. I know there was a complaint about him but the way the cops act is crazy. They have this mentality that it is them verses the civilians. My opinion is based on having cop friends and working as a dispatcher at a police station while in college. The cops would joke around about their new tasers and say they couldn't wait to tase someone. I have buddies who at once were stoners and now bust stoners. I am not afraid to admit that because if I know a few multiply that by thousands of cops across the US. The system is just ass backwards....
Off topic - people should be able to do what they want if it doesn't interfere with anybody else's well being. That will solve a lot of problems..
.Hugo.Bottom line, if he doesnt resist he is living today. Do i think he deserved to die? No, but he could have prevented it just as easy or easier than the cops could have
saskskierJoking around about wanting to taze someone is completely different than actually wanting to.
I'm a social worker and we joke around about all kinds of abuse and apprehending kids, but that doesn't mean anyone actually wants to do it or be involved in those situations.
When you work a high risk, high stress job dealing with the worst side of humanity, humour comes out in different ways and it often ends up being pretty dark. It's just a coping mechanism.
yuckman, its not like resisting arrest is uncommon, or a life-threatening action. cops are very very used to arresting people against their will and keeping them alive throughout the whole process.
J.D.4. Police officer subdued dude, using the method he was trained to use in these situations.
