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Yet another shin bang thread

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numptynoo
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So I've had a pair of Salmon Questmax 100 (beginning to think they're too stiff) 2013/2014 for a year now and have had next to no problems. In the last couple of months I have upped my freestyle game and have started to experience terrible shin and calf bang.

So far we have tried the following:

Booster strap fitted and done up on the inside of the shell

Added foam all around the liner to reduce the volume (guilty of having chicken legs)

Already have footbeds


The boots are okay for the first day but then after a couple of runs into my second day it becomes painful to even stand still in the boots as i get a shooting pain running up the outsides of my shin/calf.

Thanks
Dec 2 2014 11:28AM
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Huck_Norris
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No matter what you do, if you ski backseat you're gonna get shinbang... Maybe shim your heels to give you more forward lean?? I dunno man, maybe that's off base but you're clearly trying in the boot fit department so I can't fault you there! Perhaps your custom footbeds didn't give you enough forward lean though- if they had too flat a ramp angle that could happen. If this came about after you did that, I'd say that's probably your problem so go talk to the guys who made them and tell them what you're experiencing.


Just a thought. Good luck!
Dec 2 2014 11:46AM
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numptynoo
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Huck_NorrisNo matter what you do, if you ski backseat you're gonna get shinbang... Maybe shim your heels to give you more forward lean?? I dunno man, maybe that's off base but you're clearly trying in the boot fit department so I can't fault you there! Perhaps your custom footbeds didn't give you enough forward lean though- if they had too flat a ramp angle that could happen. If this came about after you did that, I'd say that's probably your problem so go talk to the guys who made them and tell them what you're experiencing.


Just a thought. Good luck!


I defiantly notice how bad it gets when i land back seat so in a way its helped me land a bit more clean.

I'll try a shim this week because I've started to run out of things to try haha.
I've had the footbeds since i got the boots so i'm not sure if its them.



I've tried full tilts on but the intuition liners don't agree with my chicken legs and i get a pressure on the outside of my legs which i think could put me in the same situation if i was to buy them.
Dec 2 2014 11:54AM
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tomPietrowski
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Are you completly sure they are the right size? Usually shin issues can occur with a boot which is a little big or does not fit well over te instep. When this is the case you may find you are not properly flexin the cuff and instead your banging into it before flexing occurs. As huck said placin the foot higher in the heel could possibly help. What type of footbeds do you have in the boots. Your foot may still not be in neutral whic is makin the issue worse. They are a pretty soft boot though so I would think it's a fit or simply a technique issue which means you can hopefully resolve it.
Dec 2 2014 12:11PM
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numptynoo
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tomPietrowskiAre you completly sure they are the right size? Usually shin issues can occur with a boot which is a little big or does not fit well over te instep. When this is the case you may find you are not properly flexin the cuff and instead your banging into it before flexing occurs. As huck said placin the foot higher in the heel could possibly help. What type of footbeds do you have in the boots. Your foot may still not be in neutral whic is makin the issue worse. They are a pretty soft boot though so I would think it's a fit or simply a technique issue which means you can hopefully resolve it.


Well I used to work in ellis brigham and got them fitted in there so if they're the wrong size then i would be very surprised. I have a very high instep so i'm sure that its not that there's too much space there. I have surefoot custom footbeds.

I've started landing with my feet more shoulder width apart which helps but as soon as i have a hard slam i'm done for the day.
Dec 2 2014 12:29PM
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tomPietrowski
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alastair.halwardWell I used to work in ellis brigham and got them fitted in there so if they're the wrong size then i would be very surprised. I have a very high instep so i'm sure that its not that there's too much space there. I have surefoot custom footbeds.

I've started landing with my feet more shoulder width apart which helps but as soon as i have a hard slam i'm done for the day.

Why did you go surefoot for footbeds if you worked at brighams? I would guess a fair bi of the issue is due to the footbeds. Surefoot donf surport the full medial arch only the rear of the medial arch. This mean the foot is nearly always still pronated which will be dropping the instep and will also be meanin your tib/fib wI'll be rotating I the cuff. Maybe look at changin the footbeds to somthing whic better keeps you in neutral and see if that helps. Where in te uk are you?
Dec 2 2014 1:00PM
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numptynoo
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Sorry i meant surefit, its been a long day haha.
I'm in the Milton keynes area.
Dec 2 2014 1:11PM
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tomPietrowski
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alastair.halwardSorry i meant surefit, its been a long day haha.
I'm in the Milton keynes area.


Surefit? Do you mean the sidas footbeds Brigham make? You should go see mark Watson in the MK shop.
Dec 2 2014 3:43PM
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Holte
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Try only landing switch for a couple days to help isolate the problem. If you don't get shin bang, the problem probably isn't [primarily] with the boots. It's kind of a pain in the ass to land switch all day, but sometimes it's hard to tell if you're landing a little backseat, especially if you're trying new stuff.
Dec 2 2014 7:57PM
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Flyingnugget
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I found some thick socks and cut them in half so they are like a face tube. I put it around my lower ankle which takes pressure off my upper shin. I also put insoles in my boots.

You can also buy thin soccer shin guards and wear them in your boots. They distribute the pressure over a greater surface area.

I know its hard to land clean when you're trying new stuff. Last year I landed really back seat and it felt like my shins broke.
Dec 2 2014 8:25PM
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rtl32
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FlyingnuggetI found some thick socks and cut them in half so they are like a face tube. I put it around my lower ankle which takes pressure off my upper shin. I also put insoles in my boots.

You can also buy thin soccer shin guards and wear them in your boots. They distribute the pressure over a greater surface area.

I know its hard to land clean when you're trying new stuff. Last year I landed really back seat and it felt like my shins broke.


That is a horrible idea.

Putting a tube sock around your lower ankle s only masking the problem. Additionally, you should never wear thick socks in your boots. In fact if you are fitted well and are able to have good circulation, you shouldn't even get cold in them, ever.

If you have enough room to put shin guards in your boots you need to downsize.

As usual, landing back seat will give you shin bang in ANY pair of boots.
Dec 2 2014 9:04PM
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Flyingnugget
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rtl32That is a horrible idea.

Putting a tube sock around your lower ankle s only masking the problem. Additionally, you should never wear thick socks in your boots. In fact if you are fitted well and are able to have good circulation, you shouldn't even get cold in them, ever.

If you have enough room to put shin guards in your boots you need to downsize.

As usual, landing back seat will give you shin bang in ANY pair of boots.


I wear thin wool ski socks..
I have never had cold feet..
The few inch tube sock is the same as adding foam around the ankle. It can be used when you have flat feet or low volume feet.
Shin guards come in different shapes and sizes. Some are just foam, and some are just a hard cup. You can even make your own.
Dec 2 2014 10:19PM
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numptynoo
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Tried a shin eliminator and landing switch most of the day and it has massively reduced the pain. To the point that i can live with it.

Thank you all for your help.
Dec 5 2014 5:16PM
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