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Using two different skis

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RubberSoul
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a non-skier friend asked me this last night and made me realize i couldnt confidently give him an answer.

if i used two pretty different skis, one on each foot, what would they behave like? would i be able to get used to it and it wouldnt be a huge deal? or would the differences in side cut (let's assume theyre the same length ish at least) be hard to overcome?
Nov 25 2014 11:31AM
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mcgroth898
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please dont use two different skis. everything will be messed up. flex patterns in the skis, side cut, construction overall. Just buy a pair of skis
Nov 25 2014 11:47AM
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gimmiedatpow
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probably youd kinda get used to it but it would still suck because one ski would do a smaller turn than the other one
Nov 25 2014 12:23PM
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RubberSoul
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mcgroth898please dont use two different skis. everything will be messed up. flex patterns in the skis, side cut, construction overall. Just buy a pair of skis


i don't think you understood my post, im not going to actually do it. it's food for thought and made me realize how little i know about ski tech (despite being the best skier on this site)

gimmiedatpowprobably youd kinda get used to it but it would still suck because one ski would do a smaller turn than the other one


yeah, that's the first (and kind of only) thing that came to mind, the difference in sidecuts. would that be correctable after a couple runs?
Nov 25 2014 1:12PM
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Bogs
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RubberSoul(despite being the best skier on this site)


Just goes to show that sometimes natural talent beats out study and knowledge.

Obviously the type of skis you use would impact whether or not you could make it work, but if you had, say, a slalom ski with a ~15 m turn radius on one foot, and a surfy pow ski with a ~25 m turn radius on the other foot, it would be pretty tough. The slalom ski would always want to keep the edge engaged and finish a turn, and the pow ski would want to get off edge and either slarve/slash or just go straight.

Judging on how big of a difference I can feel when on a dedicated carving ski vs. a twin tip, and how the skis want to turn, I just don't think it would work. If you had an AR7 on one foot, and a Volkl Wall on the other, you'd probably be alright, but using two skis that are designed to do different things probably wouldn't really work.
Nov 25 2014 2:04PM
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RubberSoul
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WattsJust goes to show that sometimes natural talent beats out study and knowledge.

Obviously the type of skis you use would impact whether or not you could make it work, but if you had, say, a slalom ski with a ~15 m turn radius on one foot, and a surfy pow ski with a ~25 m turn radius on the other foot, it would be pretty tough. The slalom ski would always want to keep the edge engaged and finish a turn, and the pow ski would want to get off edge and either slarve/slash or just go straight.

Judging on how big of a difference I can feel when on a dedicated carving ski vs. a twin tip, and how the skis want to turn, I just don't think it would work. If you had an AR7 on one foot, and a Volkl Wall on the other, you'd probably be alright, but using two skis that are designed to do different things probably wouldn't really work.


okay great answer, that's pretty much exactly what i imagined when i thought about it, the engaging and disengaging of each turn would be really weird assuming theyre significantly different skis

thanks dude!
Nov 25 2014 2:09PM
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joelski
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a couple years ago i went up the lift with someone with two different skis on, he said that he worked at the mountain (whistler) and that he scrounged them from lost and found and patrol at end of season. he also said that he worked at teaching blind people how to ski and that he taught them on fat skis cause it was more forgiving and a more natural feeling. always the skis he had if i remember correctly were one rossi and one kastle ski. both were probably a mid fat between 105mm-110mm. he skied them in pow and hardpack and he said he had been doing it for years and that it took some getting used to but didn't make too much of a difference.
Nov 26 2014 1:33AM
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.lencon
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I'm gonna try this for a few runs once my hill opens just for fun and I'll let you know what happens.

But it probably won't trun out well because my skis that have similar turning radii are almost 15 cm apart in length and the skis that have similar lengths are like 10 radii apart haha this will be fun.
Nov 26 2014 5:15AM
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RubberSoul
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joelskia couple years ago i went up the lift with someone with two different skis on, he said that he worked at the mountain (whistler) and that he scrounged them from lost and found and patrol at end of season. he also said that he worked at teaching blind people how to ski and that he taught them on fat skis cause it was more forgiving and a more natural feeling. always the skis he had if i remember correctly were one rossi and one kastle ski. both were probably a mid fat between 105mm-110mm. he skied them in pow and hardpack and he said he had been doing it for years and that it took some getting used to but didn't make too much of a difference.


hm yeah i imagine if they're similar enough skis it won't be a huge bother. but your talking about pow vs hardpack etc make me think about the difference between this experiment in different conditions.. would pow make it more or less noticeable? im guessing less. but idk, i have so much to learn about ski tech

.LincolnI'm gonna try this for a few runs once my hill opens just for fun and I'll let you know what happens.

But it probably won't trun out well because my skis that have similar turning radii are almost 15 cm apart in length and the skis that have similar lengths are like 10 radii apart haha this will be fun.


please do! yeah report back if you happen to try it some time. i know i prob wont be able to cause all the riding buddies of mine i can think of have different boot sizes
Nov 26 2014 9:54AM
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Park.
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the stack height of the skis (race skis have plates so you have more leverage) vs a pow ski with FKS on them would also affect it. everything else That I can think of has already been covered. skis are meant to do the same thing in the end, which is slide down the hill so you shouldnt see any serious problems in the spectrum of not even being able to ski.
Nov 26 2014 12:02PM
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Bogs
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RubberSoulwould pow make it more or less noticeable? im guessing less. but idk


I dunno, but now I'm picturing some guy skiing in two feet of blower with a 65 mm carving ski on one foot, and a 115 mm pow ski on the other, and it's pretty funny.
Nov 26 2014 12:32PM
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joelski
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i think that if you try this you should make sure that both skis are waxed and grinded the same way or else you would have one ski that continually wants to slow down and one that would want to speed up
Nov 26 2014 7:10PM
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shin-bang
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step 1. you try to turn
step 2. your left ski starts to carve
step 3. your right ski just kind of smears a small turn
step 4. your left ski still is carving while your right ski drags and you rip your groin muscle
step 5. you start tomahawking/ spinning down the mountain, completely eating crap
step 6. everyone on the lift starts laughing
step 7. your groin muscle is seriously injured and you have been humiliated
setp 8. ???????
step 9. loss
plz dont do this. after skiing on different types of skis, (powder boards, park skis, all mtn setups) i can tell you that this would not be a good idea
Nov 26 2014 9:11PM
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NEPTR
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I've done this before and it wasn't too bad... unlike everyone thinks one of your turns isn't going to be a ton shorter or noticeably shorter, because you have the other ski on it dictates the sharpness of turn you can make
Nov 26 2014 9:31PM
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shin-bang
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KBoneI've done this before and it wasn't too bad... unlike everyone thinks one of your turns isn't going to be a ton shorter or noticeably shorter, because you have the other ski on it dictates the sharpness of turn you can make


well if your going like 10mph. but say your hauling down a ridge or something...... not safe lol
Nov 26 2014 10:08PM
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DominatorJacques
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You would be fine if you ski only one foot at a time.
Nov 26 2014 10:28PM
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BigBadWolf
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This thread was meant for me

IT FUCKING SUCKS

I ride 1 AR7 171 and 1 Line afterbang 177 and its the worst combo ever. Dont get me wrong, they are my beater skis and im waiting to mount up the new ones but i have used this set up from march till now and it sucks

It is so hard for me to learn any trick due to the different weights under each foot. I can ski just fine i just cannot do tricks with ease anymore. Switch ups are the hardest thing ever when you have two completely different skis

I dont know if i could get 2 more different skis. the flex patterns are so fucking different it is hard for me to get a good press on anything. The side cuts also glide differently so sometimes ill fuck up a turn or something.

Overall, dont do it. Its not worth it and just go get new skis. It is weird as fuck and is definitely hard to overcome.
Nov 27 2014 2:04AM
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shin-bang
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BigBadWolfThis thread was meant for me

IT FUCKING SUCKS

I ride 1 AR7 171 and 1 Line afterbang 177 and its the worst combo ever. Dont get me wrong, they are my beater skis and im waiting to mount up the new ones but i have used this set up from march till now and it sucks

It is so hard for me to learn any trick due to the different weights under each foot. I can ski just fine i just cannot do tricks with ease anymore. Switch ups are the hardest thing ever when you have two completely different skis

I dont know if i could get 2 more different skis. the flex patterns are so fucking different it is hard for me to get a good press on anything. The side cuts also glide differently so sometimes ill fuck up a turn or something.

Overall, dont do it. Its not worth it and just go get new skis. It is weird as fuck and is definitely hard to overcome.

see ^ i told you guys so lol
Nov 27 2014 12:13PM
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shin-bang
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BigBadWolfThis thread was meant for me

IT FUCKING SUCKS

I ride 1 AR7 171 and 1 Line afterbang 177 and its the worst combo ever. Dont get me wrong, they are my beater skis and im waiting to mount up the new ones but i have used this set up from march till now and it sucks

It is so hard for me to learn any trick due to the different weights under each foot. I can ski just fine i just cannot do tricks with ease anymore. Switch ups are the hardest thing ever when you have two completely different skis

I dont know if i could get 2 more different skis. the flex patterns are so fucking different it is hard for me to get a good press on anything. The side cuts also glide differently so sometimes ill fuck up a turn or something.

Overall, dont do it. Its not worth it and just go get new skis. It is weird as fuck and is definitely hard to overcome.

see ^ i told you guys so lol
Nov 27 2014 12:13PM
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RubberSoul
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this thread fuckin delivered haha
Dec 1 2014 11:27AM
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