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El_Barto.
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I love guns. I own 4 hand guns, 3 rifles and a shotgun. I use non of them for hunting. Dont get me wrong, i love that i can own them. Do i need them? Maybe, i havent yet but if i need to use one i will be happy i have it. Are they fun to shoot? Oh yea

It needs to be way harder to get guns though. I can literally go into a pawn shop buy an AK with a 75 round drum and walk out 20 minutes later with it fully loaded and ready to fuck some shit up.

There needs to be a waiting period. I dont think we can impose any regulations as to why we need guns because i think basic self defense is an adequate reason. I think that there needs to be some type of personal evaluation too. Not just a background check. Just because i havent commited a felony doesnt mean im not fuckin crazy.

What are your thoughts? This is NS so i know it cant be a reasonable discussion but i think its worth a shot...get it...shot, like a gun
Nov 21 2014 8:14PM
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toastyteenagers
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Welcome to night vale reference because why not
Nov 22 2014 8:46PM
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SFB
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CaseyDefending yourself against a tyrannical government is fucking nonsense. The second you take up arms there would be unmanned drones dropping hellfire missiles on your house from 30 thousand feet. I hope your m16 makes you feel safe at night because it shouldn't.

wow please tell me where i could buy an m16, i would love too. unfortuantely i do not have a class 3 permit which is needed to own fully automatic arms
Nov 23 2014 1:08AM
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SFB
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CaseyDefending yourself against a tyrannical government is fucking nonsense. The second you take up arms there would be unmanned drones dropping hellfire missiles on your house from 30 thousand feet. I hope your m16 makes you feel safe at night because it shouldn't.

also insurgent fighters in the middle east seem to be giving the military a pretty hard time with their rusty AKs. its called guerilla warfare doofus.
Nov 23 2014 1:10AM
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corona
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I've read recently that the right to bear arms was actually pushed through only because of lobbyists from arms manufacturers.
Nov 23 2014 1:15AM
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SFBwow please tell me where i could buy an m16, i would love too. unfortuantely i do not have a class 3 permit which is needed to own fully automatic arms


SFBalso insurgent fighters in the middle east seem to be giving the military a pretty hard time with their rusty AKs. its called guerilla warfare doofus.



Hell yes SFB, you are winning
Nov 23 2014 2:23AM
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deleted5
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SFBwow please tell me where i could buy an m16, i would love too. unfortuantely i do not have a class 3 permit which is needed to own fully automatic arms


how many m16's have been used at a school shooting?
Nov 23 2014 2:45AM
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JAHpow
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zzzskizzzhow many m16's have been used at a school shooting?


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Nov 23 2014 11:08AM
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DasGoatenshafter
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I'm curious now, for the people who do love to have their handguns with them. Say you get mugged or carjacked by more than one person. Chances are, if these guys are criminals, they'll have guns right? What would you do? Try and kill both of them as they jump you? Because once you get one, the other person can easily get you, no?

I don't really care because its not my country that has these issues so much, but these are the things that make me question a lot of the arguments going around right now.

Another point:

When Zehaf-Bibeau ran in to parliament, he was using a rifle that would take upwards of 30 seconds to reload and had a low capacity. I truly believe that his weapon's lack of capacity saved lives that day, coupled with only our police force having powerful weapons. Sure, it was a shitstorm because us Canadians never really get into gunfights, but I'm pretty glad he wasn't running around with a fully automatic anything.
Nov 23 2014 12:04PM
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Casey
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zzzskizzzhow many m16's have been used at a school shooting?


That wasn't the point I was just using it as an example in regard to people that think their personal arsenal is in any way guarding against tyranny.
Nov 23 2014 1:54PM
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deleted5
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CaseyThat wasn't the point I was just using it as an example in regard to people that think their personal arsenal is in any way guarding against tyranny.

It actually made my point, what happens on the guns you need a level 3 permit for, they're not used in school shootings I wonder if they were used in any murders, another case of gun control working. I wonder what would happen if we did the experiment and made all guns require a level 3 permit.
Nov 23 2014 2:43PM
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nortslayer
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CaseyThat wasn't the point I was just using it as an example in regard to people that think their personal arsenal is in any way guarding against tyranny.


Its not just my personal arsenal. Its my personal arsenal in addition to more than 270 million other gun owners' weapons. As of 2013 the United States had 1.3 million people on active duty. The second amendment was created to protect citizens from a tyrannical government and would absolutely serve its purpose. A ban on guns will be the prelude to other losses of our freedom. A government cannot serve a people whom it has absolute control over.
Nov 23 2014 2:47PM
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El_Barto.
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zzzskizzzIt actually made my point, what happens on the guns you need a level 3 permit for, they're not used in school shootings I wonder if they were used in any murders, another case of gun control working. I wonder what would happen if we did the experiment and made all guns require a level 3 permit.


Legal supply would go down price would sky rocket. I personally would buy guns illegally from drug cartels or other criminals.
Nov 23 2014 2:59PM
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