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NPRMJester for sure, FKS are too hyped up and the brakes are a pain and super expensive, marker binding parts are everywhere and WAY cheaper, its not about if you break or bend brakes its when
NPRMJester for sure, FKS are too hyped up and the brakes are a pain and super expensive, marker binding parts are everywhere and WAY cheaper, its not about if you break or bend brakes its when
parkplaygroundBoth are premium bindings. have you ever ridden either, or even ridden lower quality models that are similar (FKS 12, Griffons, etc)? if you have, then you will know what the bindings will feel like. At the level of quality you are looking at, it all comes down to personal preference. Many peopple like the FKS because it really is the best binding for giving you the truest feeling of the ski possible, where in Markers case, you get more leverage over the ski, which is also very good, but in a different way.
No, the Markers will not break for no reason, and no, the FKS are not indestructable like many will tell you (I broke 2 FKS 140 baseplates myself with minimal use).
If you are looking for the best tech that is put into the two bindings, you will find that in the Markers, but the low stack height and short baseplates of the FKS will give you a better feel for the ski. IF you like carving, I have personally experienced better results from Marker, but I still prefer (even if I do break them alot) the feel of the FKS more.
As others have said, Markers will be your best bet for replaceable parts too.
Sparknotes comparison:
Markers- Newest tech in binding to get best performance possible (energy transmission, weight distribution, etc), will give you leverage over skis to carve better, lighter, easier to replace parts WHEN they break, more precise binding
FKS-realistically, not as durable as people say, but still on par with the big hitters, low stack height gives you closer-to-ski feel, lots of elastic travel(but Markers have comparable amount too), short mounting patter+smaller baseplate gives skis more natural flex, one of the best toes on the market
TheClap.140's are plastic. You really arn't going to destroy a pair of 155's/180's
Only bindings I'll ride
NPRMJester for sure, FKS are too hyped up and the brakes are a pain and super expensive, marker binding parts are everywhere and WAY cheaper, its not about if you break or bend brakes its when
bnewbs6What part do you use when you take a jump big and your entire fucking toe piece SHATTERS? Exactly, get FKS. They are not overhyped at all they are amazing.
cobra_commanderI have, and still use, turntable bindings which are probably older than you. I also have a box of spare heel parts, which I rarely use. I have never broken, or seen anyone break the metal p18/p15 binding. Can't say the same about Jesters - they break all the fucking time.
parkplaygroundI have seen 2 pairs of 18 toepieces break from kids under 140 who didnt throw down very hard. There is a family of skiers at my mountain who only use markers and go very hard and they haven't broken a pair of jesters before. Not to say that I haven't seen markers break but never jester pros ( I have seen jesters broken before)
TheClap.How'd they break those 18?
parkplaygroundI have seen 2 pairs of 18 toepieces break from kids under 140 who didnt throw down very hard. There is a family of skiers at my mountain who only use markers and go very hard and they haven't broken a pair of jesters before. Not to say that I haven't seen markers break but never jester pros ( I have seen jesters broken before)
parkplaygroundI literally have no idea. They mechanism that controls the horizontal release I think, so the toe just spun around basically. The toe technically still worked, It was clearly broken and not meant to do that.
Both of them broke this piece I am pretty sure from just skiing some trees early season
Huck_NorrisJust stop. Think about it. No way a kid
Huck_NorrisNo way a kid less than 140 should even BE ON 18s, especially if they "didn't go that hard"... Now given that they are light years above their suggested DINs and blew their toe release springs... Either they blatantly abused them at 1000x too much forward pressure while using huge rockered soles in them or you're making this up. For real. In any case, there is more at work here than a crap binding, and that's obvious as fuck.
parkplaygroundOK, look at my first reply in this thread. I wouldn't make shit up because that helps nobody. I even like FKS, being my favorite binding. I am telling the truth and my coaches (his coaches too) had no idea what the fuck happened. he had them mounted on chronics and was riding on 8 din. Legitimately don't know what to say. This guy is a great skier but in the park he is more of a fuck around skier. he got warrantied on them but again, I have no idea what happened. Maybe it was just unlucky or something, but it happened to this other kid too.
Huck_NorrisWell then I am officially perplexed.
Never heard of that even happening on the 15s.
cobra_commanderI have, and still use, turntable bindings which are probably older than you. I also have a box of spare heel parts, which I rarely use. I have never broken, or seen anyone break the metal p18/p15 binding. Can't say the same about Jesters - they break all the fucking time.
cobra_commanderFrom the posts he makes I am 100% convinced that parkplayground is both a compulsive lire and a complete moron.
parkplaygroundI don't see how shitting on me is helping people get answers in this thread. I can give you the kids NS account if you want to ask him yourself, but damn you gotta chill out. I haven't said anything untrue or bullshit...
